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#1 Aug 21 2010 at 10:52 AM Rating: Excellent
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I've now seen for myself now how bothersome the mouse lag is in the Beta. I'm finding that my mouse crosshair program makes it a bit easier to tolerate. The crosshair runs over the screen, and moves at full speed. I've been using it to properly line up what I want to click, then waiting for the game's cursor to catch up with it. For me, it's easier than trying to fumble the laggy game cursor over to what I want to click.

I'm not aware of any other ways to relieve the problem, so if there are, my apologies for the moot point (and please, I'd love to hear them!). I just wanted to share my little way of mitigating the issue.

Crosshair can be found here. It's confirmed to work for Windows XP and Vista. Credit goes to Mike Lin, the creator.

Here's a screenshot of it running over FFXIV (Click to enlarge):

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Hope this helps some people.


EDIT: I've been playing with it some more, and I'm fairly sure that most of the time you don't even have to wait for the game's cursor to catch up. Once in a blue moon this will cause the game to drop into "background" mode for some reason, but that's simply solved with another click.

Edited, Aug 21st 2010 12:55pm by Eske

Edited, Aug 21st 2010 1:16pm by Eske
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#2 Aug 21 2010 at 12:46 PM Rating: Good
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This may or may not help, depending on your settings. I've found that turning Ambient Occlusion OFF makes the mouse lag mostly disappear.

Unfortunately for me, it causes a 1/4" wide horizontal distortion on the bottom 1/3rd of my screen Kinda like a long horizontal bar that jumps around a little as I run.

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#3 Aug 21 2010 at 1:26 PM Rating: Decent
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Is there any kind of cursor lag with a gamepad?

I know that sounds stupid, but if I'm going back and forth really quickly am I going to be getting the same kind of interface lag?
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#4 Aug 21 2010 at 1:30 PM Rating: Decent
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The controllers are almost perfect. So far the only thing about controllers that can suck, is checking your inventory.
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#5 Aug 21 2010 at 1:49 PM Rating: Good
Maxzero wrote:
The controllers are almost perfect. So far the only thing about controllers that can suck, is checking your inventory.


Yeah, it's a world of difference between K+M and gamepad (I'm using my DualShock 3). My inv is small so I haven't gotten to the point where it's frustrating in there. Switching targets in active mode sucks for me. In passive mode, it's nice because I can use D-Left and D-Right to cycle between targets; but in active mode, it sucks because D-Left and D-Right cycle between active-mode actions (and can't be used to change targets). It seems like a small problem until something aggros and your cursor is stuck targeting yourself (those couple of seconds lost switching to the attacking mob really make a difference when the enemy keeps smacking your for 80 or so HP every strike).
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#6 Aug 21 2010 at 9:06 PM Rating: Good
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seneleron wrote:
This may or may not help, depending on your settings. I've found that turning Ambient Occlusion OFF makes the mouse lag mostly disappear.

Unfortunately for me, it causes a 1/4" wide horizontal distortion on the bottom 1/3rd of my screen Kinda like a long horizontal bar that jumps around a little as I run.


In my case, the lag is present with or without ambient occlusion (I currently have it off). Here's to hoping that the issue gets addressed before release.
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#7 Aug 22 2010 at 12:56 PM Rating: Decent
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Another thing that helps (at least one Nvidia cards) is turning the preloaded screens to 0 (I think defualt is 3 under 3d settings in control panel).

It definately gets rid of the visual lag in the mouse movement, but it doesn't fix the lag in the UI itself. However combined with your trick I bet it might help even more.
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#8 Aug 22 2010 at 2:32 PM Rating: Decent
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From what I can tell the mouse lag is caused when your settings are higher than your computer can handle. If I turn all settings to max I get mouse lag, however with settings to AA=2x, AO=off, DoF=off, and everything else up all the way the mouse lag disappears completely.

Turn your settings down.
#9 Aug 22 2010 at 3:07 PM Rating: Decent
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BRizzl3 wrote:
From what I can tell the mouse lag is caused when your settings are higher than your computer can handle. If I turn all settings to max I get mouse lag, however with settings to AA=2x, AO=off, DoF=off, and everything else up all the way the mouse lag disappears completely.

Turn your settings down.


That could explain why turning the prerender buffer off helps.
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Use an FPS counter. The lower your FPS, the worse the mouse lag is. Above 50FPS and it's pretty good.

The problem is the mouse is rendered in software, not hardware (like so much of the game). Until then, there will be mouse lag.
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#11 Aug 22 2010 at 3:38 PM Rating: Good
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To all the suggestions:

Thanks for the advice. But I've got a pretty decent computer, and I've already turned the settings way down (and all relevant effects like AA, Depth of Field, etc. are off). I think this is just the way it's gonna have to be for me unless they shore up the issue on their side.
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#12 Aug 22 2010 at 5:24 PM Rating: Good
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Well it is still beta. Hopefully works better in open beta or release. =)
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BRizzl3 wrote:
Well it is still beta. Hopefully works better in open beta or release. =)


Fingers crossed! Smiley: grin
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#14 Aug 22 2010 at 8:59 PM Rating: Good
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Unfortunately for me, it causes a 1/4" wide horizontal distortion on the bottom 1/3rd of my screen Kinda like a long horizontal bar that jumps around a little as I run.


I have this exact same thing and I too have Ambient Occulsion off simply because its not playable with it on atm due to mouse lag...anyone have any idea what causes this "distortion" we'll call it?
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BRizzl3 wrote:
From what I can tell the mouse lag is caused when your settings are higher than your computer can handle. If I turn all settings to max I get mouse lag, however with settings to AA=2x, AO=off, DoF=off, and everything else up all the way the mouse lag disappears completely.

Turn your settings down.


What are your PC specs.
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