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#1 Aug 22 2010 at 6:26 PM Rating: Good
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Can we get the JP opinion of FFXIV somehow? A JPButton Q&A like they have done in the past about FFXIV beta would be interesting. I know they don't like the UI, and don't care about the mouse controls, but other than that I'd like to know what they think of the beta test so far. It seems the NA reaction is largely disappointment. I must admit, I'm disappointed in the beta test so far, but for different reasons than most people.
#2 Aug 22 2010 at 7:29 PM Rating: Decent
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#3 Aug 22 2010 at 7:32 PM Rating: Decent
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That would be good.

I think that the beta right now is going to be fairly different from open beta/finished product though. I have a feeling the way they have it set up right now is purely for a better test environment, not for a funner "better" game.
#4 Aug 22 2010 at 7:35 PM Rating: Good
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In the beta forums, it has been said that most jp players are fine with the beta for the most part. Minus the known issues that you have stated anyway.
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#7 Aug 22 2010 at 10:38 PM Rating: Good
Hrmmm, considering that the beta players are only experiencing a small portion of the the world of FFXIV I don't think content opinion counts. Gameplay however is a hot topic. I personally like the gameplay of FFXIV so far and what I have seen of the content, it's going to be a good game.

There have been threads about this on the beta site and the Japanese seem to be thinking along the same lines.... SE is on the right track of making an original and exciting MMO game. whether or not it will be perfect at release? Imo it wont be but they are still on the right track no matter what people QQ about on the forums. FFXIV will last don't worry, SE is different than the other MMO companies that had recent failures. The concepts of FFXIV are new and exciting and not a return to the normal cookie cutter MMO games... more like an evolution in MMO's. It Reminds me a little of Eve in a way but still in the tradition of the D&D style RPG on MMO scale.

There are alot of MMO's coming out in the next year, along with expansions of existing games and I look at them all and none of them are bringing what FFXIV is bringing. Looking forward to SWKoR but I still don't think even that game has what FFXIV has.

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grindahll the Fussy wrote:
The concepts of FFXIV are new and exciting and not a return to the normal cookie cutter MMO games... more like an evolution in MMO's.


I couldn't disagree more. In fact, I would go so far as to say FF14 (beta 3) is severely lacking in features standard to any modern MMORPG, and from what I've read in the interviews, the release build will be lacking as well. I guess the leveling and class system is unique (though not necessarily good IMO), but I don't consider guild leves, crafting, combat system, or character creation cutting edge or next-gen.

I wasn't planning on ranting about the beta in this thread, but bleh... whatever.

Edited, Aug 23rd 2010 12:39am by xXMalevolenceXx
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xXMalevolenceXx wrote:
grindahll the Fussy wrote:
The concepts of FFXIV are new and exciting and not a return to the normal cookie cutter MMO games... more like an evolution in MMO's.


I couldn't disagree more. In fact, I would go so far as to say FF14 (beta 3) is severely lacking in features standard to any modern MMORPG, and from what I've read in the interviews, the release build will be lacking as well. I guess the leveling and class system is unique (though not necessarily good IMO), but I don't consider guild leves, crafting, combat system, or character creation cutting edge or next-gen.

I wasn't planning on ranting about the beta in this thread, but bleh... whatever.

Edited, Aug 23rd 2010 12:39am by xXMalevolenceXx


That's not a rant, that's truth. Some still won't accept it. Despite the beautiful graphics and high requirements, it's still dx9 and there is nothing revolutionary about this game. I'm still hoping SE has an ace up their sleeve, aka "just kidding, the retail is totally different".
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#10 Aug 23 2010 at 12:05 AM Rating: Good
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I just finished doing a faction leve with a Japanese group - the main drop was a level 24 shield which looked very good, somehow it ended up in my loot box as I was 80/80 and i didn't notice and I warped to another area and the drop was lost and the Japanese player in my party asked me for it since it was his faction leve >.< imagine how bad I felt...i was pretty sure he was throwing insults out his *** at me but i must've apologized to him about a million times...thank god this is only beta, I hope nothing like this happens with me again -.- What this has to do with the Japanese opinion on FFXIV? nothing...but I wanted to share with my favorite community.
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"just kidding, the retail is totally different"

...and lol, get real. what you see is what you'll mainly get...the game will be polished most likely for release but its not as if there'll be something amazing at launch...this is the game. I suggest if you don't like it cancel your pre-order before you waste your money.
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GuardianFaith wrote:
xXMalevolenceXx wrote:
grindahll the Fussy wrote:
The concepts of FFXIV are new and exciting and not a return to the normal cookie cutter MMO games... more like an evolution in MMO's.


I couldn't disagree more. In fact, I would go so far as to say FF14 (beta 3) is severely lacking in features standard to any modern MMORPG, and from what I've read in the interviews, the release build will be lacking as well. I guess the leveling and class system is unique (though not necessarily good IMO), but I don't consider guild leves, crafting, combat system, or character creation cutting edge or next-gen.

I wasn't planning on ranting about the beta in this thread, but bleh... whatever.

Edited, Aug 23rd 2010 12:39am by xXMalevolenceXx


That's not a rant, that's truth. Some still won't accept it. Despite the beautiful graphics and high requirements, it's still dx9 and there is nothing revolutionary about this game. I'm still hoping SE has an ace up their sleeve, aka "just kidding, the retail is totally different".


I think everyone is hoping for that, and I think everyone will be disappointed greatly.
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#13 Aug 23 2010 at 12:12 AM Rating: Good
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The ace they have upon their sleeve might be their subbornness when it comes to listening
to the (hardcore) player community. At the moment it surely looks like 24/7 gamers will
have a hard time trying to "distinguish" themselves from more casual players. Which, in
my opinion, actually is a good thing. Takes out a bit of pressure for everybody.

In most current "next-gen" MMORPGs, both action and competition are major elements of the
core game "philosophy". Like: sweat a lot -> become uber -> outperform other players ->
feel good. Problem with that is just that those not among the top 10% don't really profit
from this philosophy. For them it was more like: play a decent amount of time -> never catch
up -> never see more than 50% of the content -> feel bad (-> quit). And even those at the top
would constantly have to "work" to stay there.
May please some hardcore nerds, but likely does not please a lot of other potential players.
Personally I never understood why 50% of the content in FFXI was only available to people who
played more than 4 hours a day / 7 days a week. But maybe that's just me.

What SE seems to aim at with XIV is more like: Play a decent amount of time -> become pretty
good at what you chose to do -> cooperate with other players -> enjoy 90% of the content.
Sounds better to me, at least.

Also, the game right now feels much less "gaudy" than, e.g. Guildwars II. Which I also like.

SE's trup card might be that they seem to be trying to get back to the roots of the "game"
aspect of a game, away from the "competitional work" aspect that still keeps so many offline
gamers from playing MMORPGs.

"Back to the roots of fun", you might say.

Let's see how it plays out.
#14Skeptic, Posted: Aug 23 2010 at 12:15 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Japan is bored with Beta.
#15 Aug 23 2010 at 12:32 AM Rating: Excellent
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same with oversea beta forum. Negative reviews, complaints everywhere in JP forum, and official beta tester forum. Japanese also wanna hear you guys voices too. So, lets get in-touch with each others, and hope SE listens to our voice.

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#16 Aug 23 2010 at 12:39 AM Rating: Decent
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How do we get in touch? Perhaps form one multi-lingual petition to SE with JP,EU,NA players?
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GuardianFaith wrote:
xXMalevolenceXx wrote:
grindahll the Fussy wrote:
The concepts of FFXIV are new and exciting and not a return to the normal cookie cutter MMO games... more like an evolution in MMO's.


I couldn't disagree more. In fact, I would go so far as to say FF14 (beta 3) is severely lacking in features standard to any modern MMORPG, and from what I've read in the interviews, the release build will be lacking as well. I guess the leveling and class system is unique (though not necessarily good IMO), but I don't consider guild leves, crafting, combat system, or character creation cutting edge or next-gen.

I wasn't planning on ranting about the beta in this thread, but bleh... whatever.

Edited, Aug 23rd 2010 12:39am by xXMalevolenceXx


That's not a rant, that's truth. Some still won't accept it. Despite the beautiful graphics and high requirements, it's still dx9 and there is nothing revolutionary about this game. I'm still hoping SE has an ace up their sleeve, aka "just kidding, the retail is totally different".


Hehe, you haven't found the secret yet to it. The JP are keeping it to themselves. You ever wonder why they're so quiet in the beta? They're not gonna tell us because "american, onry know push button, and level up, not beta testing."


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#18 Aug 23 2010 at 7:47 AM Rating: Decent
xXMalevolenceXx wrote:
grindahll the Fussy wrote:
The concepts of FFXIV are new and exciting and not a return to the normal cookie cutter MMO games... more like an evolution in MMO's.


I couldn't disagree more. In fact, I would go so far as to say FF14 (beta 3) is severely lacking in features standard to any modern MMORPG, and from what I've read in the interviews, the release build will be lacking as well.


I think, after playing FFXIV for only 3 days now, that every other MMORPG is severely lacking the Armory System. Crafting also gained a lot of my respect this time around, and I'll be spending a good chunk of my time working on item synth this time around.
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Oddly I don't enjoy crafting in any game... until I got into this beta. It's really fun. The problem I have is it seems I will want to craft more than I will want to fight. There's loads to do in both areas, but maybe it's because it's so restricted and doesn't seem so camp friendly. Or I just haven't found one yet. Mobs respawn really quick, but for a lower level any way it seems there's too many sheep and not enough rats. Obviously everything can and most likely will change.

Overall I'm very impressed with the game though. Some minor optimizations and I'll be sold. Not that it matters. I'm going to pay my monthly fee amd hope for the best for a minimum of a year like I do with most MMOs.

I did the Beta for PotBS and it's only just recently become a game I'd want to play all the time. Sadly for them, it's too late for me and many others. DDO, same thing... though it becoming F2P might bring me back at some point. WAR... well I thought it was the causal friendly P2P MMO I needed in my life, but soon learned that it wasn't a few months in.

After all the MMOs I've been through, only 2 hold a very special place in my heart. Shadows of Yserbius/Fates of Twinion (and that game was BARE!, it was the community. Options were sooo limited, but it was my first) & FFXI.

I have high hopes for XIV, and from BETA alone I have a feeling that within a year I shouldn't be dissapointed.
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...and lol, get real. what you see is what you'll mainly get...the game will be polished most likely for release but its not as if there'll be something amazing at launch...this is the game. I suggest if you don't like it cancel your pre-order before you waste your money.


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But hey, at least we have a mini map!

And we can pull up the full size map without losing control of our characters! Now if only they'd give us a compass too...
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But hey, at least we have a mini map!

And we can pull up the full size map without losing control of our characters! Now if only they'd give us a compass too...


Well mini map has a N or it (north) as long as you know your directions should be good ;)

Also hitting M can bring up the main map!
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