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#1 Aug 23 2010 at 11:48 AM Rating: Excellent
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Now I, along with everybody else, am excited for FFXIV to come out. I like reading the new threads about the beta and how things work. Then I just realized something, are we telling too much?

Think back to when you first got a video game. At least for me, I had no idea what the strategy was or how to build/create items without doing trial/error or learning from the game itself. I didn't know what the exact formula was to get optimal experience points or knew that a boss was weak to a certain spell. Again, take for example starting FFXI, not knowing where to go, exploring around. The games were magical without the pre-hand knowledge. I had a feeling of self accomplishment when I finally killed the boss that killed me at least three times in a row. I felt better figuring out things by myself. It was only until I was more experienced and did as much as I wanted to with the game, that I would want to look at FAQS on how to do things better.

I'm starting to worry what we as the community are doing to ourselves. When FFXI and WoW was released, did we even have online communities dedicated to the game? Back then it seemed that nobody knew what they were doing and it was great. Now we have a community for a game that hasn't been release yet. Even though this is all beta information, here we are spoiling the game for ourselves by explaining game mechanics, giving compiled lists of recipes, etc. I will be even more worried if, before the release, we see a thread explaining optimal experience gaining, what job/abilities combinations are the best. Are we heading in the same direction where if someone enters the game, everyone will expect the game to be played a certain way, and this is even before the game has been actually released? Imagine release day and all we see is a line of people to get to a certain NPC (talk to NPC A, then to NPC B, then NPC A again). Better yet, we find that all magic wielding folk can't get in parties because it's "not efficient" just like in FFXI.

I just don't want the magic to quickly die off for me and many other people when we play because we are not following strategies deemed efficient that are being formulated now.
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#2 Aug 23 2010 at 11:57 AM Rating: Excellent
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Short Answer no.

This is beta, apprently so mob placement will be moved, we will have access to vendors and such for armor and equipment that were not in beta. we will have more areas to explore and learn. Systems will change and either be removed or upgraded.

In all reality if you didnt want to know so much and go in with a fresh start, Then be careful of what you read. but as with most MMO, watching and playing are two different things, and watching someone do something or hearing about it, will never be the same as when you first do it yourself.
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#3 Aug 23 2010 at 12:00 PM Rating: Excellent
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Good point but as of right now I have an internal clock counting down the days to the launch and can't seem to stay away from the forums, screen shots and anything else FFXIV related. I'm way too excited!
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#4 Aug 23 2010 at 12:01 PM Rating: Good
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people had loads of info up about XI before I got it (day 1 PC release). I had read through a few things and the experience was magical for over 2 years. Even after the 2 years of playing when people started "forcing" builds, I'd still randomly find some scenery or something that would refresh my sense of awe. I expect fully the same same ammount of awe and wonder if not higher of XIV. IMO all this info won't ruin a thing. There's still tons of stuff we don't have access to.
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#5 Aug 23 2010 at 12:04 PM Rating: Excellent
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OddlerJiub wrote:
Short Answer no.

This is beta, apprently so mob placement will be moved, we will have access to vendors and such for armor and equipment that were not in beta. we will have more areas to explore and learn. Systems will change and either be removed or upgraded.

In all reality if you didnt want to know so much and go in with a fresh start, Then be careful of what you read. but as with most MMO, watching and playing are two different things, and watching someone do something or hearing about it, will never be the same as when you first do it yourself.


Agreed, things will change, and I know I'll probably start in Ul'dah for retail so it'll be like a fresh start. But I'll know what to look for which will be a bonus. If you get in the game on the 22nd and people are trying to dictate to you how to play(aside from offering help) then you can simply ignore them and do your own thing. There's not a ton of info for higher level partying anyway...the low-leveling can be done in various ways.
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#6 Aug 23 2010 at 12:18 PM Rating: Good
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Thanks all for your answers and it's making me feel better. I wasn't too sure if there would too much of a change between the beta and final release, but from your answers I feel I shouldn't be too worried. I think I will probably do what TwistedOwl is going to do and start in a city different from the beta start city though, just so I can feel like a kid in a candy store and have no idea what to look at first.
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#7 Aug 23 2010 at 3:13 PM Rating: Decent
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There's a lot in the beta that's closed off or not available.
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#8 Aug 23 2010 at 5:42 PM Rating: Good
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we will have access to vendors and such for armor


Unless I'm mistaken, there will be no armor vendors in XIV. Crafted pieces only.

Combined with no AH.

I'm not judging it, I'm just repeating it.
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#9 Aug 23 2010 at 7:27 PM Rating: Decent
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I agree on the No. This game has been truly shrouded in mystery as to the way the guild leve and armory systems work. I try and read as much as I can to figure out how it will add up in the end. I would hate to invest points as I level to find out I'm stuck with it when I decide to start leveling a different class. Knowing that things fluctuate and aren't as locked in as I thought, I'm not as worried about ******** myself out of changing classes later in the game to get a different perspective or additional skills.
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#10 Aug 23 2010 at 7:37 PM Rating: Excellent
Not at all. Even with all the info that we have gotten I still haunt the forums looking for new screens or tidbits about crafting.

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I'd still randomly find some scenery or something that would refresh my sense of awe.


Zi'Tah did this to me in XI. First time I wandered in there I just ran around looking at the zone.
#11 Aug 23 2010 at 8:14 PM Rating: Decent
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Unless I'm mistaken, there will be no armor vendors in XIV. Crafted pieces only.


You also get armor from Guildleves. Maybe from regular quests as well, haven't so far though.

I don't think anyone has seen too much. Remember that the beta is only one city and one zone. It's only one third of what the size of just the starting areas will be. But you could also say that maybe this game won't have many zones compared to other MMOs because of the size of the zones. You can fit a lot of level content into a zone that big, even if they change the monster arrangements and make them more "fluid".
#12 Aug 23 2010 at 8:50 PM Rating: Good
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My thoughts are as a community we are not telling too much, but are just trying to give some people that haven't been in beta or have not yet experienced much of the game through videos or screenshots some thoughts and starting points so they don't feel completely lost when they start. Also, I think if I remember correctly, isn't beta only about 10% or less than 10% of the actual game? If that is so, I think there is still many surprises that await people including me who would rather have just a few starting tips/points, but still have most of the game feel fresh and surprising.
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#13 Aug 23 2010 at 11:09 PM Rating: Good
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we find that all magic wielding folk can't get in parties because it's "not efficient" just like in FFXI


I'm in beta and I am the biggest noob and I've been playing the game for a month now...trust me, as much as we know, we know nothing. And rest assured the magic wielder are efficient, in fact they kick ***, i can vouch for them...both THM and CNJ are insane especially for soloing harder mobs (of course, I'm talking about level 8-10 THM and CNJ lol and P.S. I know you were only giving an example ^.^). ..this game has so much stuff behind it that you can never know too much from beta - you're panicing over something that can never happen (especially with "optimal builds" and "best xp gaining methods"). I mean I remember in FFXI where every level, and every job I played I was always learning something new - this'll be no different in FFXIV.
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#14 Aug 23 2010 at 11:11 PM Rating: Good
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I've been doing quite a bit in beta and I still feel clueless to the broader picture, and this is only the beginning of the game. When the release comes out I will still be overwhelmed.

There's a LOT to this game.
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