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#1 Aug 23 2010 at 6:48 PM Rating: Decent
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This is the monitor I already own:
http://www.amazon.com/F1905E-LCD-Flat-Panel-Monitor/dp/B000F768IQ

Considering the powerful hardware that's gonna be needed to RUN this game... would you deem this decent to view the game on or no? I'd rather not upgrade to a new monitor, but I know nothing about quality in this area (even less so than computer parts) so I thought I'd get an opinion.

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* 1280 x 1024 maximum resolution supports up to 16 million colors
* Supports both analog and digital input connectors
* 700:1 contrast ratio
* Plug-and-play installation
* Energy Star compliant
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#2 Aug 23 2010 at 6:53 PM Rating: Good
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The resolution would work with the game, but I would recommend an HD monitor for best viewing since this game is made with the Crystal Engine(same used for FFXIII). You can get HD monitors pretty cheap these days too.
#3 Aug 23 2010 at 6:53 PM Rating: Good
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It will work fine, but it's not ideal. The main drawback I can forsee is the lack of real estate for all of the UI, maps, chat log, etc.
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#4 Aug 23 2010 at 6:53 PM Rating: Good
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It won't be horrible looking at the resolution, but for 150-200$, you could defintely get something much cleaner looking.

Heres a cheapish monitor that will display max settings if needed.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009179

I have 2 acers at home and have nothing but nice things to say about them.
#5 Aug 23 2010 at 6:57 PM Rating: Decent
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JoniPaavo wrote:
It won't be horrible looking at the resolution, but for 150-200$, you could defintely get something much cleaner looking.

Heres a cheapish monitor that will display max settings if needed.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009179

I have 2 acers at home and have nothing but nice things to say about them.


Is this an "HD Monitor" that I hear so much about lol?
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#6 Aug 23 2010 at 6:59 PM Rating: Decent
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Nevermind, looked it up. I like what I see. I'll be going with THIS one... lol. Hopefully all my new stuff is here and together before the start of open beta.
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#7 Aug 23 2010 at 7:12 PM Rating: Good
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im rocking a 32" sony bravia for a monitor, only problem is it is a 720p not a 1080 and that kills a lot of games and makes text a ***** to read. i may be going for something more along the 26" size and a lot higher rez. Low rez HD monitors make me a sad panda.

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#8 Aug 23 2010 at 7:15 PM Rating: Good
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im rocking a 32" sony bravia for a monitor, only problem is it is a 720p not a 1080 and that kills a lot of games and makes text a ***** to read. i may be going for something more along the 26" size and a lot higher rez. Low rez HD monitors make me a sad panda.

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I personally think anything larger than 22" is too big for gaming. If it's any bigger than that you gotta sit like 5 feet back from the screen so you can see the whole thing lol. :P
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i find 32 to be about perfect for fps, 20 leads to a lot of blur and squint, and only once i tried on a 60"... wont do that again. too much going on, that and i dislike dual monitor setups because i could never get used to the bars in the middle.
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Is this an "HD Monitor" that I hear so much about lol?


To answer this, or if anyone else wants to know, HD resolutions are commonly 720p and 1080p. The number 720 or 1080 is the number of pixels from the bottom of the screen to the top. HD resolutions are also commonly in widescreen format, which is 16:9, or 16 units wide by 9 units tall (units could be pixels, inches, etc).

So a typical 1080p screen would have 1920x1080 resolution, and a 720p screen would have 1280x720 resolution.
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#11 Aug 23 2010 at 7:32 PM Rating: Good
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I'm currently using a 24" Dell, worked beautifully for the 3+ years that I've used it. Never had issue with the size, but that could be the fact that there's at least 3' between my monitor and where I usually play/watch shows. Only had one mechanical issue with it and that's the power button is stuck. Not much of a biggie since it was easily rectified with separate power strip that I turn off after use. My advice is shop around at a few of the brick and mortar electronic centers and see if they have a monitor that you can find yourself comfortable with using. If you do, head home and shop around for other monitors around that size and read some customer reviews. Remember research is always valuable when shopping for a necessary electronic component.
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#12 Aug 23 2010 at 7:52 PM Rating: Decent
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LowLvGoldsmith wrote:
i find 32 to be about perfect for fps, 20 leads to a lot of blur and squint, and only once i tried on a 60"... wont do that again. too much going on, that and i dislike dual monitor setups because i could never get used to the bars in the middle.


I have a 32in 1080p Samsung tv. I *thought* about using it to play FFXIV. But I remember attempting WoW (don't judge me, only lasted like 3 weeks lol) on my dad's 42in tv and idk if I just configured it wrong, but I couldn't read the text to save my LIFE on that tv. Everything scaled except the UI & chat logs. That's my main reason for even going out to get a monitor.
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#13 Aug 23 2010 at 8:00 PM Rating: Good
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TaruHunk wrote:
JoniPaavo wrote:
It won't be horrible looking at the resolution, but for 150-200$, you could defintely get something much cleaner looking.

Heres a cheapish monitor that will display max settings if needed.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009179

I have 2 acers at home and have nothing but nice things to say about them.


Is this an "HD Monitor" that I hear so much about lol?
There's no such thing as an HD monitor. Monitors for over a decade now have been able to output resolutions that would now be described as "HD". Maybe he's thinking of widescreen? I wouldn't get a monitor that isn't 16:10 or 16:9 anymore.
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#14 Aug 23 2010 at 8:03 PM Rating: Decent
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bsphil wrote:
TaruHunk wrote:
JoniPaavo wrote:
It won't be horrible looking at the resolution, but for 150-200$, you could defintely get something much cleaner looking.

Heres a cheapish monitor that will display max settings if needed.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009179

I have 2 acers at home and have nothing but nice things to say about them.


Is this an "HD Monitor" that I hear so much about lol?
There's no such thing as an HD monitor. Monitors for over a decade now have been able to output resolutions that would now be described as "HD". Maybe he's thinking of widescreen? I wouldn't get a monitor that isn't 16:10 or 16:9 anymore.


I honestly don't know MUCH about resolutions and the whole HD/pixels thing. But I knew the max my monitor could go. And people started dubbing monitors HD so I just went ahead and used the terminology. But I was basically asking what it's resolution is.
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#15 Aug 23 2010 at 8:09 PM Rating: Excellent
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Honestly the graphics in this game are so good that you really should look into getting a Full HD (1920 x 1080) display.

For anyone looking into picking up a new monitor for FFXIV, I would definitely recommend taking a look at this one:

Samsung P2450H

Specs
Size: 24"
Max Resolution: 1920 x 1080 (full HD)
Response Time (GTG): 2ms (great for gaming)
Contrast Ration (DC): 70000:1 (you can pretty much ignore this stat when choosing a monitor due to the deceptive rating practices of most manufacturers)

Newegg currently lists it for $239.99, but I picked mine up at my local Costco for $219.99.

Any time you order an LCD display online you risk getting one with dead pixels from the factory. Most manufacturers will take the display back if there are several dead pixels out of the box, but there is usually a minimum of 3-7 required before they will accept a return.

Costco, on the other hand, has a 60 day "no questions asked" return policy, so you might want to see what they have in stock before you make your choice.

Edited, Aug 23rd 2010 7:09pm by akirussan
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So with all these bright beautiful monitors running around. Say you have a tower without HDMI hook up. What part do i need to allow that and about how much is it? Or do those have to come with a GPU or something? (sorry for my lack of "knowledge")
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#17 Aug 23 2010 at 8:17 PM Rating: Excellent
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TaruHunk wrote:
So with all these bright beautiful monitors running around. Say you have a tower without HDMI hook up. What part do i need to allow that and about how much is it? Or do those have to come with a GPU or something? (sorry for my lack of "knowledge")


Its part of the video card usually if its not built in, the GTX 460 that everybodys talkign about has a mini HDMI on it witha coverter to regular HDMI. If it dosnt come with the card im not sure of any other options.
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#18 Aug 23 2010 at 8:18 PM Rating: Excellent
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Newegg also has a couple Asus 22-24" 1920 x 1080 monitors around the $199 range. Samsung has a good rep, though the only Samsung I've ever seen that I like is the 40" LED ;)

Absolute best advice is to try to dig up some ones online that you like, and then see if you can find them somewhere in house to look at them. Most monitor specifications are really absolute bullsh**

response time: 2-5 ms is good, grey to grey is fudging the numbers a little
Contrast ratio: The world's biggest headache. Higher is supposed to be better, but this number has been a marketing gimick, especially lately. Add to that dynamic contrast ratio [my monitor has 1 million:1 dynamic for example--yes, for $199] The ONLY way to really tell whether or not you like it is to stand in front of it. I know that's a pain, but it's worth it in the long run.

Then again, if you LIKE your current monitor, why addict yourself to something larger, shinier, and more crispy? ;)

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So with all these bright beautiful monitors running around. Say you have a tower without HDMI hook up. What part do i need to allow that and about how much is it? Or do those have to come with a GPU or something? (sorry for my lack of "knowledge")


There are DVI to HDMI cables [my monitor came with one] and they make DVI to hdmi adapters. I think I paid $10 or $15 @ Wal Mart for the ones I have.

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seneleron wrote:

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So with all these bright beautiful monitors running around. Say you have a tower without HDMI hook up. What part do i need to allow that and about how much is it? Or do those have to come with a GPU or something? (sorry for my lack of "knowledge")


There are DVI to HDMI cables [my monitor came with one] and they make DVI to hdmi adapters. I think I paid $10 or $15 @ Wal Mart for the ones I have.

Edited, Aug 23rd 2010 10:20pm by seneleron


Thanks a lot. Just what I'm looking for. It just occurred to me, with all this talk of PC specs and what not... no one discussed monitors at all. I just learned a lot in this thread. Rate ups all around! I appreciate it folks!
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#20 Aug 23 2010 at 8:52 PM Rating: Good
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Also, I'd say the majority of modern graphics cards have dual DVI ports, as well as monitors with a single. I wouldn't sweat it. Just double check that the video card and monitor have dvi ports.
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seneleron wrote:

There are DVI to HDMI cables [my monitor came with one] and they make DVI to hdmi adapters. I think I paid $10 or $15 @ Wal Mart for the ones I have.


I completly forgot about that! your right! I was looking at them a month or so ago.
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#22 Aug 24 2010 at 12:43 AM Rating: Good
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LowLvGoldsmith wrote:
im rocking a 32" sony bravia for a monitor, only problem is it is a 720p not a 1080 and that kills a lot of games and makes text a ***** to read. i may be going for something more along the 26" size and a lot higher rez. Low rez HD monitors make me a sad panda.

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One thing to remember about "720p" HDTV's is that nearly all of them are actually using 1360x768 LCD panels. Some of them can accept a native 1360x768 signal and some of them can't. If it can then you will get better image quality by using the actual native resolution of the panel.

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#23 Aug 24 2010 at 2:54 AM Rating: Decent
I've got Compaq WF1907 (1440x900) and Samsung SyncMaster 2333HD (1920x1080) monitors. The Compaq serves primarily as my PC monitor and the Samsung as my television since it's a hybrid type model. Currently I'm using an HDMI cable for the Samsung to connect to my PC due to my room setup. Overall the res works well for a 1600 res but going for true HD (1080p) I need to use a DVI cable as the display doesn't appear sharp the least bit. Personally it doesn't actually bother me all the much as my system can't really handle FFXIV on the high resolutions all too well. So for the beta I just converted my setup into duplicate displays and run the Samsung one at 1440x900. For me it actually works perfectly fine. FFXIV looks great no matter how you run it so it's not gonna make much difference what resolution you play it on.

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