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#1 Aug 24 2010 at 5:06 AM Rating: Default
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FACTS?
Buy the best pc...and your a *********
Build the best pc...and your still a *********
Listen to my friend Merlin....yes yes the wizard...and you can't go wrong.

Nonsense aside, what gives performance is CPU with good caching system, good quality RAM, a solid state hard drive...because they are very very fast, and the GPU.

you can have all the above right and an average GPU and you will be laughing because we are going to make sure throughput is maximised so that the GPU can do it's stuff. We will also be doing some overclocking!


WHAT YOU NEED?

where going for a moderate price range, this PC is for gaming and it IS going to effing last.

cheap case but big enuf and easy to suck the air out of:

CASE: THIS ONE

DVD-RW: DVD-RW

CPU: Intel i7 2.8 Ghz 930

CPU FAN: a good cooler...they don't seem to sell mine anymore but it's just as high end

Graphics card: ATi 5970

Or a little cheaper
ATi 5870 2GB edition

Hard disc: 1TB Western Digital 64MB Cache 7400RPM (get any it doesn't matter)

Hard disc SSD (solid state disc):
THIS ONE FOR GOD'S SAKE I cannot stress enough, your paying big money for an SSD, this one is twice as fast for god's sake, and you can boot from it.

NOTE: You should probably not get the SSD if you want to save some money! This helps primarily with loading times and not as much as FPS as I had hoped for.

Memory:
OCZ DDR3 1600 Tri-Channel


Motherboards: Gigabtye (amazing mobos)

Power Supply:
Power Supply 700W


HOW TO PUT IT TOGETHER?

put the CPU and RAM on the motherboard first, its like lego, look at the connecting peices and make sure it's all the right way in.....keep the motherboard book close to you it will tell you everything u might need to know if you get stuck, it's short and sweet with lots of pictures, a great manual.

put the CPU FAN on, just how the manual it comes with tells you......by now you should know all the numbers of your CPU etc. e.g. Socket 775 remember to plug your CPU fan into the motherboard if it has one.

next ***** the PSU to the case.

next ***** in your hard drive and DVD-RW etc.

next ***** the motherboard to the case.

plug your PSU fan into the Mother board if it has one, and plug the 1 or 2 power cables into your motherboard, this is what powers the computer hardware itself. If it has 2 put both in because you will probalby need them, like I did, otherwise consult Manual :)

plug the SATA cables to the motherboard, then plug the PSU power to the Devices (HD and DVD) its plug and play, simple stuff, put it where it fits, in any of the ports.

plug case into motherboard, get a torch and look closely at the pins, they are all labelled, PWR - POWER, RESET - RESET :P, LED etc.

put your graphics card in and the PCI-E SSD if you were smart enough to invest in that.

plug your PSU into your graphics card

now everything is plugged together, screwed in and has power,

put your fans in the back to suck out the air.

THIS PART IS EASY NOW turn your computer on....it will be dead....put your windows 7 64x bit ultimate edition in and install windows, make sure you put ALL GAMES as well on the SSD drive...we need super fast access to all the data there.


OKAY to overclock now.......I chose gigabyte for a purpose, it's VERY VERY EASY to OC with. Press del to enter bios (you should all know this). Go through every option, read what it does, if it's too complicated don't touch it, but you will want to enable AHCI which lets you boot from your SSD and disable EIST function, which controls the clock speed. If it makes sense like and seems annoying turn it off, turn on USB Keyboard and Mouse, as you will probably need them.

Overclock your FSB front side bus, go all the way up to 3.6Ghz, turn off your fan control so it goes full speed all the time, tune your vcore (cpu voltage to 1.6-1.8) and make sure you downclock your RAM again, instead of leaving it on auto, pick a number until it reads roughly 1600, and dont forget your PCI-Express Bus to what the description says...100, anything over 100 might not be stable, but you might be able to push it to 110. dont it's not worth it...yet at least. Increase your CPU like 100Mhz each time, and you should probably get a stable 4GHz.

don't bother overclocking your graphics card

Cart Total £ 1194.27
Approx. Delivery £ 12.48
VAT £ 211.18
Total £1417.93

now you could buy this and be happy, or your could buy and alienware/dell and let yourself believe you're happy.


that's about it.........if u have any problems sonicsoul0@gmail.com text me.

Edited, Aug 26th 2010 8:38am by trutrutru
#2 Aug 24 2010 at 9:42 AM Rating: Decent
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I would suggest anyone looking to build an Intel based PC right now wait 6 more days. There's a price drop due this month, the i7 960 will drop to 298 from 600ish USD and may or may not replace the 930 but it's price should drop. Also the i5 chips are scheduled for the same major drop in price.

I would assume shortly around that time that AMD chips might drop, but only a little as they aren't do for a major drop until early next year.

Oh, and I prefered ebuyer.co.uk but I only made a single purchase there since it was cheaper than having my HAF-X case shipped APO.
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#3 Aug 24 2010 at 11:35 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm about to be living in the UK for a few years, could you tell me what VAT is? I see this on websites like AriaPC and have no idea what it is.

Edited, Aug 24th 2010 1:35pm by BRizzl3
#4 Aug 24 2010 at 11:57 AM Rating: Good
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VAT = value added tax (basically tax). Currently 17.5% on almost everything. However in stores on the street, prices pretty much always show inc tax price. Online stores usually show 2 prices inc and ex VAT (for electronic equipment like this). If you are a business you can reclaim VAT in some instances, same if you're from outside of the EU (European union), conditions apply.

As for online computer stores I use www.ebuyer.com, www.overclockers.co.uk, www.scan.co.uk, www.novatech.co.uk, www.aria.co.uk. All have pros and cons - shop around.
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#5 Aug 24 2010 at 6:50 PM Rating: Decent
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PerrinofSylph wrote:
I would suggest anyone looking to build an Intel based PC right now wait 6 more days. There's a price drop due this month, the i7 960 will drop to 298 from 600ish USD and may or may not replace the 930 but it's price should drop. Also the i5 chips are scheduled for the same major drop in price.



Thanks for that. Was going to order PC tomorrow, but can wait a few days. Though googled it after reading this and seems like only the I7 950 will drop. Still, that's £200 to spend improving the graphic card.
#6 Aug 24 2010 at 7:31 PM Rating: Decent
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VAT = value added tax (basically tax). Currently 17.5% on almost everything. However in stores on the street, prices pretty much always show inc tax price. Online stores usually show 2 prices inc and ex VAT (for electronic equipment like this). If you are a business you can reclaim VAT in some instances, same if you're from outside of the EU (European union), conditions apply.

As for online computer stores I use www.ebuyer.com, www.overclockers.co.uk, www.scan.co.uk, www.novatech.co.uk, www.aria.co.uk. All have pros and cons - shop around.


Thanks a lot, good info to know. I'm gonna be buying new computer parts while I'm there for sure, I'm always thinking about the next thing I want to upgrade.
#7 Aug 25 2010 at 8:32 AM Rating: Decent
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ROFL, that case is just god **** horrible, in no way should you go near it enough said ...

Oh, and about the 960 price drop, forget that get yourself a 920 and OC' i'm pushing 4.2ghz on air, save yourself a buck ^^

Edited, Aug 25th 2010 10:35am by blufnex
#8 Aug 25 2010 at 9:53 AM Rating: Decent
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revco wrote:
Thanks for that. Was going to order PC tomorrow, but can wait a few days. Though googled it after reading this and seems like only the I7 950 will drop. Still, that's £200 to spend improving the graphic card.


The 950/960 is the biggest drop, but the i5 and i3 series will have at least one major dropper in each of their lineups.
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#9 Aug 25 2010 at 2:08 PM Rating: Good
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The i5 (750 and 760) is dropping a little day by day but the biggest saving will be if you manage to catch it on special on one of the sites I mentioned above.

As for getting an i7 920 and OCing it, the i7 930 has a slightly higher OC ceiling so if you're looking to overclock above 4.2GHz go for the i7 930. If you're looking to go under than then the slight saving on the i7 920 (if you can find them) makes it a better choice. However the 920 and 930s are still the best VFM Intel chips at that processing range.

On a related note, the ATI 5850s & 5870s are seeing slight price reductions. I picked mine up from Novatech on the weekend for £275. (The cheapest Novatech 5870 is a normal retail, branded card, but unspecified but you can always call to check what they have in stock. Mine was an XFX with AVP and Assassin's Creed.) Overclockers.co.uk has a few reduced as well on this week's special. (The HIS one looks tasty...)

(On a side note I really don't agree with the recommendations at the top - if you're going to choose high end, then at least get a case and PSU to suit. Not a BoS case and a wannabe 700w PSU.)
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#10 Aug 26 2010 at 4:08 AM Rating: Default
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700W should be more than enough I have 600W, no need to go insane and OCZ come with 3 year warranty, maybe go for an XFX 800W, I just wanted to save you guys some time and warranty is important for overclockers, my Xilence 750W blew up and it was a great PSU...

the case, i dunno, i dont really give a crap about the case, dont get one, even better, mount your PC bare bones, even cooler that way....some high end cases aren't big enough to fit 5970 so I hear but that's probably nonsense.
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