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#1 Aug 24 2010 at 2:48 PM Rating: Sub-Default
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#2 Aug 24 2010 at 2:52 PM Rating: Excellent
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There's already a thread on it here...http://ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?game=268&mid=1282666110271087533&page=1

I think it's an apparently poor translation turned into a "The sky is falling" kind of article. Either on purpose or gullibility. Those of us playing in the beta definitely know it's rubbish.
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#3 Aug 24 2010 at 2:52 PM Rating: Excellent
This is a total lie.
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Obviously a bunch of crap. Rumour that's spreading like a virus to those stupid enough to believe it.
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#6xthunderblazex, Posted: Aug 24 2010 at 2:54 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I've seen that thread, thought it would be acceptable to create a topic just about these articles, and the bad publicity the game is getting as a result, if not, feel free to lock.
#7 Aug 24 2010 at 2:56 PM Rating: Excellent
Not that SE is good at PR, but they really should come out and say something now that it is hitting some more major websites.
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Obviously a bunch of crap. Rumour that's spreading like a virus to those stupid enough to believe it.


Yeah... it's almost actionable I'd say, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see SE sue sankakucomplex for damages caused by this article
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#9xthunderblazex, Posted: Aug 24 2010 at 2:57 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I've seen a lot of people canceling their preorders as a result of these articles...
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Not that SE is good at PR, but they really should come out and say something now that it is hitting some more major websites.


I don't really think they need to. They're probably just laughing in their offices and waiting until the game is released so they can silently relish in the fact that everyone was wrong to begin with, and people who once said they were going to leave because "beta sucked" come back.
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The article is crap and misleading...BUT...I honestly wish there was more bad publicity about the game. Why you ask? I think it would force SE to make some type of clarifying statement to the contrary. As it is right now I am very scared FFXIV will not live up to my expectations. I want SE to come out and kill all the naysayers and give us some good solid happy information. I want to be coddled and told everything will be all right.
#12 Aug 24 2010 at 3:00 PM Rating: Good
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I've seen a lot of people canceling their preorders as a result of these articles...


Indeed it's awful for their publicity...the internet's a great place to create a scare with misinformation. Lots of that goin' on lately.

After seeing stuff like that I always end up singing that Offspring song...

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#13 Aug 24 2010 at 3:00 PM Rating: Good
Stupid article. Yes, a fatigue system exists. No, it's obviously not some thing that kicks in after a single hour of play.

It would be nice if, before they posted alarmist crap, these idiots bothered asking some one who's in beta, or some one at S-E.

It's amazing how lazy people are and how willing they are to report things third hand.

Edited, Aug 24th 2010 5:02pm by KarlHungis
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Square-Enix, promote one of their MMOs outside of Japan? Surely you jest!
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Why do you think you get that much exp for killing a single mob.. You need that much to be able to complete goals in one hour that normally would take several hours to complete since you only have one hour before the fatigue kicks in.
It all makes sense!!

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Of course it's all nonsense :)
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I heard a rumor that the wow fanboys are afraid FFXIV in all its greatness is going to kill their game.. WoW is Dieing threads are going to be starting all over. So they are trying to kill FFXIV in order to stop the inevitable.
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#17 Aug 24 2010 at 3:08 PM Rating: Good
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KarlHungis Delivers on Time wrote:
Stupid article. Yes, a fatigue system exists. No, it's obviously not some thing that kicks in after a single hour of play.

It would be nice if, before they posted alarmist crap, these idiots bothered asking some one who's in beta, or some one at S-E.

It's amazing how lazy people are and how willing they are to report things third hand.

Edited, Aug 24th 2010 5:02pm by KarlHungis


Why should they do that when this is creating site traffic for them Smiley: oyvey

It's just like any other tabloid, they're far less concerned with the truth and far more concerned about doing anything that gets them attention (and therefore money)
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Seriously this article smells bad to me and is obviously fake but if you guys take a look at the Gamespot forums its amazing how stupid people can be...not one person has any sense of logic in him to tell him the article is fake or the information is fake. SE should really say something, I wonder why that company still doesn't have a **** English speaking representative...they're so behind the times with some things it ****** me off...this game is getting bad publicity because SE is always so hush hush about everything.
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Someone flash the elmer signal.

I have been reading beta forms about this and everyone there is saying apprently the JP players have found a way around it, but have not shared. We need Elmer, hes our only hope in putting out this fire.
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#20 Aug 24 2010 at 3:20 PM Rating: Good
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I know that there's been a lot of mid to high-level Japanese players that would eat certain food after battling if that has anything to do with it.
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Wow anyone who actually believes those articles or takes stock into them is pretty **** moronic.

If anything it'll be fatigue related to gathering and those types of activities for rmt
prevention.


Seriously people who post this crap the turn the switch in your brain to on.


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#22xthunderblazex, Posted: Aug 24 2010 at 3:24 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Fatigue was only a real issue in beta....when they were giving us 5k+ xp per leve mob.
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Lol gossip-mongering nonsense.

WTF was the point of linking us to that hentai site, by the way?
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Although the effect is exaggerated in the article, the bad publicity could lead to SE removing the "feature" altogether. I think it's for the best.
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Lol gossip-mongering nonsense.

WTF was the point of linking us to that hentai site, by the way?


I believe that was the main article which started all the gossip. People on the beta forums complain about it a lot.
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I gave a NSFW warning, it had the original article that people were raging over. That was the point.
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Bah. If you read Artefact, the author's comments, he admits that his "source" is anonymous comments on a website with transient threads - ie. 2chan. So he apparently cherrypicked some scaremongering comments and placed them, unattributed, after an excerpt from an interview to imply that they were also from the interview. It's just trolling.
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#28 Aug 24 2010 at 4:11 PM Rating: Decent
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It's all true! I read about it on the internet!

No one knows how the Fatigue/surplus system works to it's full extent. It sucks that the system is in place, but until SE divulges just how the system works ALL INFO IS SPECULATION!
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#29 Aug 24 2010 at 4:15 PM Rating: Good
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I will quote a famous sage

"The only thing that you're ever gonna be king of, is king of the stupids." - Gingerbread Man (Shrek 2)
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#30 Aug 24 2010 at 4:15 PM Rating: Good
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Can someone, for the love of all that is good and holy, post the Picard facepalm?

Good god, what a bunch of festering BS.
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Here you go

http://dragis.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/picard-facepalm.jpg
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#32 Aug 24 2010 at 4:23 PM Rating: Excellent
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Can someone, for the love of all that is good and holy, post the Picard facepalm?

Good god, what a bunch of festering BS.


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#33 Aug 24 2010 at 4:24 PM Rating: Excellent
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Good god, what a bunch of festering BS.


QFT, and the word "festering" is definitely right on the money, cause BS like this is going to keep festering as long as SE keeps treating information about their games like state friggin' secrets.
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#34 Aug 24 2010 at 4:35 PM Rating: Good
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and the bad publicity the game is getting


There is no such thing as bad publicity

Forget the single facepalm, this calls for a double:

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Edited, Aug 24th 2010 6:37pm by seneleron: I Fail at embedding, click the link ><


Ok, now that I've actually read the articles, I'd love to see these pop up EVERYWHERE!!!! Every fan site, every GAMING SITE. I don't care if it's TRUE or not. Maybe if SE gets hit over the head with torches and pitchforks they'll actually consider removing it from the game. I don't care if y'all have time all week to play, my time comes in finite chunks, and I Have to maximize it the best I can ;)



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#35 Aug 24 2010 at 5:02 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah... it's almost actionable I'd say, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see SE sue sankakucomplex for damages caused by this article


They've had a serious hate for FFXIV since it was first announced. Someone on their staff has an axe to grind.



Edited, Aug 24th 2010 8:04pm by Lobivopis
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I thought of it first:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20
#36 Aug 24 2010 at 5:08 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah... it's almost actionable I'd say, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see SE sue sankakucomplex for damages caused by this article


They've had a serious hate for FFXIV since it was first announced. Someone on their staff has an axe to grind.


Judging from the rest of that site, they're probably mad about the lack of a "boob size" slider.

Edited, Aug 24th 2010 7:08pm by KarlHungis
#37xthunderblazex, Posted: Aug 24 2010 at 5:16 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You can actually alter the boob size by changing faces. Ugliest face has the smallest boobs. True story.
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I feel like people are jumping the gun over a "feature" that may not be present in the retail unit of this game.

I also feel like trashy sources like sankakucomplex should be taken with a grain of salt before being held up as unassailable truth in the wilderness. Jeezus...
#39xthunderblazex, Posted: Aug 24 2010 at 5:33 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Actually Squeenix has stated it IS GOING TO BE in the retail version. They stated that at the gamescon interview.
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Things change, regardless of what people say. And according to that article, I'm also supposed to believe that you'll eventually gain ZERO exp for doing tasks/killing things, thus making it pointless to even play the game.

Yeah...no. Do you think that will ever come to pass?
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Yes, you can get zero xp eventually. Until you switch classes, and level another class up some more.
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Yeah...no. Do you think that will ever come to pass?


The more rational consideration is that fatigue caps at -90% and has a cooldown of days, forcing you to level/do something else. . which DOES mean, if you're hooked on a class and you don't want to switch, how did you put it?

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you'll eventually gain ZERO exp for doing tasks/killing things, thus making it pointless to even play the game.


Which, effectively, is the core of the REAL controversy surrounding these issues [not the weekly world news "end of FFXIV" articles in the beginning of this post]

And I'm not going to get into it, because it all depends on your play style, and whether your play style conflicts with how SE is rollin' this.
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Bah. If you read Artefact, the author's comments, he admits that his "source" is anonymous comments on a website with transient threads - ie. 2chan. So he apparently cherrypicked some scaremongering comments and placed them, unattributed, after an excerpt from an interview to imply that they were also from the interview. It's just trolling.


Tch...

Whatever happened to journalistic integrity?
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#45 Aug 24 2010 at 6:02 PM Rating: Decent
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Actually Squeenix has stated it IS GOING TO BE in the retail version. They stated that at the gamescon interview.


They stated that there is a fatigue system. They didn't state that it was going to be this cockamamie "IF U PLAY MOAR THEN WON OWR U WIL GET NO EXPEE!" work of fiction that's being reported. It's called "surplus" and it's already been mentioned on these forums a number of times.

If you're capable of it, then start a real discussion, using facts and experience from the beta. Talking about the silly fiction at that hentai site is a waste of time. It reminds me of a certain quote from Doctor Strangelove:

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When you get crazy over imaginary problems, you create bigger problems. Don't do it.

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Which, effectively, is the core of the REAL controversy surrounding these issues [not the weekly world news "end of FFXIV" articles in the beginning of this post]

And I'm not going to get into it, because it all depends on your play style, and whether your play style conflicts with how SE is rollin' this.


I'd say the real controversy isn't so much that the system exists, but that the article in question says that it happens VERY quickly (1 hour to begin diminishing returns).

While I don't like the idea of the surplus system and don't agree with limiting players in their play style, however the system is FAR more reasonable than this article would have you believe and will probably change even further once the game ships
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Yeah, that is a heavily exaggerated pile of crap. I'm not sure what annoys me more, the fact that people are spreading it or the fact that people are willing to take it as written at face value.

At any rate, I strongly feel SE needs to come out and tell people it's untrue.
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EDIT: I just noticed who the OP was. Yay for trolls. I guess I'll repost the OP before it gets "removed due to allatards raging" because we "don't deserve it." like his other thread.


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Yeah, that is a heavily exaggerated pile of crap. I'm not sure what annoys me more, the fact that people are spreading it or the fact that people are willing to take it as written at face value.

At any rate, I strongly feel SE needs to come out and tell people it's untrue.


On the other hand, how badly do you want people around who seriously take their news from a hentai site... I know SE doesn't care where their money comes from but I'm pretty sure it isn't worth actually spending money to bother refuting this stuff
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And the more I read ANYTHING on sankakucomplex.com, it makes me wonder if taking that site seriously is like taking TheOnion or EncyclopediaDramatica seriously.
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Mikhalia the Picky wrote:
Yeah, that is a heavily exaggerated pile of crap. I'm not sure what annoys me more, the fact that people are spreading it or the fact that people are willing to take it as written at face value.

At any rate, I strongly feel SE needs to come out and tell people it's untrue.


On the other hand, how badly do you want people around who seriously take their news from a hentai site... I know SE doesn't care where their money comes from but I'm pretty sure it isn't worth actually spending money to bother refuting this stuff


Yeah, like I said, the more I read on that site, the more I'm sure that it's just a *********** of BS aimed to drum up some nerdrage.

To their credit, it's working.
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