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Catalyst 10.8 released, Crossfire profile for FFXIVFollow

#1 Aug 25 2010 at 4:12 PM Rating: Good
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10.8 release notes say that the application profiles now support Crossfire on the FFXIV benchmark. Not sure if it also supports Crossfire in the beta though. (the application profiles have been a separate download for a few versions now so you will have to install 10.8 and the application profiles separately)
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Adjust the resolution of menus.
The main screen resolution for "FINAL FANTASY XI" is dependent on the "Overlay Graphics Resolution" setting.
If the Overlay Graphics Resolution is set higher than the Menu Resolution, menus will be automatically resized.


I thought of it first:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20
#2 Aug 25 2010 at 7:10 PM Rating: Decent
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Has anyone confirmed this by testing a crossfire system?
#3 Aug 25 2010 at 7:11 PM Rating: Excellent
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<3 can't confirm this until Friday when my other 5870 arrives, but sounds promising!
#4 Aug 25 2010 at 7:14 PM Rating: Good
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My other 5870 should be arriving in the mail Friday as well... but I have to drive to another base to pick it up :( 45 minute drive.
#5 Aug 25 2010 at 11:50 PM Rating: Decent
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The release notes only mention the benchmark not the actual beta.

10.8 is supposed to improve quad Crossfire also.
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Final Fantasy XI 12-14-11 Update wrote:
Adjust the resolution of menus.
The main screen resolution for "FINAL FANTASY XI" is dependent on the "Overlay Graphics Resolution" setting.
If the Overlay Graphics Resolution is set higher than the Menu Resolution, menus will be automatically resized.


I thought of it first:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20
#6 Aug 25 2010 at 11:58 PM Rating: Good
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**** you Nvidia, and your slacking drivers team! Oh wait, i'm not even running SLI yet...

Carry on, nothing to see here.

Edit: i'm typo king tonight it seems. ><

Edited, Aug 26th 2010 1:58am by Teneleven
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#7 Aug 26 2010 at 12:07 AM Rating: Decent
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[******************** you Nvidia, and your slacking drivers team! Oh wait, i'm not even running SLI yet...

Carry on, nothing to see here.

Edit: i'm typo king tonight it seems. ><

Edited, Aug 26th 2010 1:58am by Teneleven [/quote]

I don't know about Nvidia but dual GPU ATI cards technically count as Crossfire as far as the drivers are concerned.
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Final Fantasy XI 12-14-11 Update wrote:
Adjust the resolution of menus.
The main screen resolution for "FINAL FANTASY XI" is dependent on the "Overlay Graphics Resolution" setting.
If the Overlay Graphics Resolution is set higher than the Menu Resolution, menus will be automatically resized.


I thought of it first:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20
#8 Aug 26 2010 at 12:15 AM Rating: Good
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Thanks for letting me know about the latest drivers, much appreciated :)
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#9 Aug 26 2010 at 12:20 AM Rating: Good
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[************************************* you Nvidia, and your slacking drivers team! Oh wait, i'm not even running SLI yet...

Carry on, nothing to see here.

Edit: i'm typo king tonight it seems. ><

Edited, Aug 26th 2010 1:58am by Teneleven [/quote]

I don't know about Nvidia but dual GPU ATI cards technically count as Crossfire as far as the drivers are concerned.[/quote]

That's interesting.
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#10 Aug 26 2010 at 4:13 AM Rating: Decent
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[****************************************************** you Nvidia, and your slacking drivers team! Oh wait, i'm not even running SLI yet...

Carry on, nothing to see here.

Edit: i'm typo king tonight it seems. ><

Edited, Aug 26th 2010 1:58am by Teneleven [/quote]

I don't know about Nvidia but dual GPU ATI cards technically count as Crossfire as far as the drivers are concerned.[/quote]

That's interesting.[/quote]

Dual GPU cards, whether Nvidia or ATI count toward the 4 GPU limit under Windows. So it's a waste of money to use more than 2 dual GPU cards in Crossfire or SLI because Windows won't use more than 4 GPUs to render 3D. Having 2 GPUs on one card is more efficient and scales better than two separate cards though.

Edited, Aug 26th 2010 7:13am by Lobivopis
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Final Fantasy XI 12-14-11 Update wrote:
Adjust the resolution of menus.
The main screen resolution for "FINAL FANTASY XI" is dependent on the "Overlay Graphics Resolution" setting.
If the Overlay Graphics Resolution is set higher than the Menu Resolution, menus will be automatically resized.


I thought of it first:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20
#11 Aug 26 2010 at 6:38 AM Rating: Decent
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[******************** you Nvidia, and your slacking drivers team! Oh wait, i'm not even running SLI yet...

Carry on, nothing to see here.

Edit: i'm typo king tonight it seems. ><

Edited, Aug 26th 2010 1:58am by Teneleven [/quote]

Sorry, I had a 4870x2 from Ati and recently I went to Nvidia because their drivers are a lot better than that Ati crap.

I run both Linux and Windows, Ati's linux drivers are real **** compared to how painless Nvidia's is. Never mind the OpenGL bugs that Ati has. For instance, I can't run Starcraft 2, EVE online without having real troubles with glitches.
When I run those games them on linux with a Nvidia card, it just works. No workarounds needed to get it "working".

Recently I tried to update my Windows 7 x64 Ulti to the newer Catalyst 10.7 drivers, and guess what. After they got installed the only thing Windows would do is give me a nice Blue Screen on boot. Even the restore options wouldn't give a help.

It was a clear quick decision to run to the hardware store around the corner and get me a Nvidia card. Never looked back on my troubles with the crap quality of Ati cards again! (Been 4 years Ati enthousiast!)

Thanks Nvidia!
#12 Aug 27 2010 at 1:51 AM Rating: Good
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Sorry, I had a 4870x2 from Ati and recently I went to Nvidia because their drivers are a lot better than that Ati crap.

I run both Linux and Windows, Ati's linux drivers are real sh*t compared to how painless Nvidia's is. Never mind the OpenGL bugs that Ati has. For instance, I can't run Starcraft 2, EVE online without having real troubles with glitches.
When I run those games them on linux with a Nvidia card, it just works. No workarounds needed to get it "working".

Recently I tried to update my Windows 7 x64 Ulti to the newer Catalyst 10.7 drivers, and guess what. After they got installed the only thing Windows would do is give me a nice Blue Screen on boot. Even the restore options wouldn't give a help.

It was a clear quick decision to run to the hardware store around the corner and get me a Nvidia card. Never looked back on my troubles with the crap quality of Ati cards again! (Been 4 years Ati enthousiast!)


I got a GTX 285 a while back but ended up taking the damned thing back because I couldn't make it work right with HDTV output. It would only output studio range RGB not full range and there was no option to change this in the drivers. For HDMI audio it required a cable (that the card did not come with) to be run from the spDIF output on my MB's sound output to the card. That cable is both hard to find and ridiculously overpriced.

No problem I thought, I'll just use my old DVI to HDMI cable and use analog audio.

Problem was that the card was still telling the HDTV that there was an audio signal over a cable that isn't capable of sending an audio signal. Because the TV thought it was receiving an audio signal it would shut off the analog I/O (normal behavior for an most HDTVs) and so I could not use analog audio and DVI/HDMI on the TV with sound. I could use analog VGA but @#%^ that.

Looked it up on line and found out that it was a known issue with no work around.

Also the framerate on FFXI with this card was terrible, which was the final nail in it's coffin for me. So I took the damned thing back and got a 5850, which worked perfectly and did exactly what I wanted it to do with my HDTV.



Edited, Aug 27th 2010 5:13am by Lobivopis
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Final Fantasy XI 12-14-11 Update wrote:
Adjust the resolution of menus.
The main screen resolution for "FINAL FANTASY XI" is dependent on the "Overlay Graphics Resolution" setting.
If the Overlay Graphics Resolution is set higher than the Menu Resolution, menus will be automatically resized.


I thought of it first:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20
#13 Aug 27 2010 at 3:17 AM Rating: Good
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Using the renaming trick with a radeon hd 5970 I got a score of 5385 with version "2009.1006.2226.38455"(Old) and a score of 5371 with version "2010.0803.2125.36577"(New). Doesn't seem to be too big of a difference at least for the single card, dual GPU side of things. It could just be the crazy benchmark or my CPU could be holding me back a tad from getting better results. I'll await the new benchmark before i pass judgment though.
#14 Aug 27 2010 at 7:23 PM Rating: Good
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In crossfire (using 2 5870's), I'm getting a tad over 1k more on the bench than I was with 1 card. Problem is, even with 10.8, I still have to use the .dll/rename trick to force crossfire. Is there something I have to do to activate the profile for the bench?
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#15 Aug 27 2010 at 8:09 PM Rating: Decent
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why do they waste time on benchmark? Currently on Beta, crossfire is not supported either, because there is no benefit switching from window mode to full screen with 2x HD5870. I wonder if ATI can do something on that side instead..
#16 Aug 28 2010 at 12:53 AM Rating: Decent
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lolrockboy wrote:
In crossfire (using 2 5870's), I'm getting a tad over 1k more on the bench than I was with 1 card. Problem is, even with 10.8, I still have to use the .dll/rename trick to force crossfire. Is there something I have to do to activate the profile for the bench?


You downloaded and installed the new Crossfire profiles right?


conditionzero wrote:
why do they waste time on benchmark? Currently on Beta, crossfire is not supported either, because there is no benefit switching from window mode to full screen with 2x HD5870. I wonder if ATI can do something on that side instead..


Crossfire and SLI are never supported by the application. It is always driver side support.

Edited, Aug 28th 2010 3:55am by Lobivopis
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Final Fantasy XI 12-14-11 Update wrote:
Adjust the resolution of menus.
The main screen resolution for "FINAL FANTASY XI" is dependent on the "Overlay Graphics Resolution" setting.
If the Overlay Graphics Resolution is set higher than the Menu Resolution, menus will be automatically resized.


I thought of it first:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20
#17 Aug 28 2010 at 12:35 PM Rating: Good
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Lobivopis wrote:
You downloaded and installed the new Crossfire profiles right?


Yup, and then I read that a new version of the profiles came out shortly thereafter, labeled 10.8a, that was supposed to fix the faulty profiles in 10.8, and it doesn't work either :(

Edited, Aug 28th 2010 2:35pm by lolrockboy
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Yep. Every netbook with an atom processor nowadays plays WoW.
****, I am sure with some tweaking it would run on an iphone.
Or even on the LCD display of my microwave.
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