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#1 Aug 25 2010 at 4:21 PM Rating: Default
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You know that benchmark test?
Essentially *********

I am very sick and tired of the extremist hardcore 2.5k rig gamers posting about how to build your comp to run this game and how you need a 3k+ benchmark to do well.

Its absolutely *********

Take this from a long time beta tester i have leveled pug, thaumaturge, and conjuror as well as culinarian, and fishing. The benchmark totally overexaggerates whats required to run the game.

I spent a total of 750$ on a new desktop (with tax, not including monitor) and can run the game fine. Now i am not saying on max settings and when overwhelemed by a crowd i don't notice any lag whatsoever, but nothing more then a typical mmo.

I scored a 1200 on the benchmark and again by just reducing some of the 3d effects and extra settings in configuration, i run the game smoothly and do not notice any out of the ordinary delays (Things such as UI issues are standard with everyone).

My specs are:
CPU AMD quad core 635 @ 2.9ghz
6 GB RAM
Windows 7 64 bit
Nvedia gt 220

So everyone scaring the non computer hardcore into playing this game can kick rocks because i have had no more than the regular issues on reduced settings that high end rigs experience. I want to further stress for those with expensive rigs about to post saying "Well some people wanna run everything on max settings" That is FINE! I know that. This is for those who want to be able to smoothly play the game effectively without spending over 1k.
#2 Aug 25 2010 at 4:27 PM Rating: Decent
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Preach it, broseph.
#3 Aug 25 2010 at 5:04 PM Rating: Good
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*Edit: OP was moved here from general game discussion forums. Now it makes more sense.

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#4 Aug 25 2010 at 5:26 PM Rating: Decent
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Your system is pretty close to mine. I run the game fine. However all the bug checking software that is in Beta lags the menu and a lot of other things including combat. But I knew this going into the game so I cannot complain. As for the environment, people overcrowding graphical lag... I didn't notice any whatsoever. And this was even with running max MSAA which... I guess is cool. But if you screenshot with it max and it off, it's not that different at all. I will probably compile a screenshot of the same image in all the different qualities to compare settings. If it hasn't been done already?

#6 Aug 25 2010 at 6:08 PM Rating: Decent
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This is what I ran in beta:
1600x900 fullscreen
P4 3.4ghz
2GB Ram
9600GT
FIOS internet

I ran the game on low textures with no shadows and It was playable @15-20 FPS most of the time. In Crowds it was definitely rough, but it never reached slide show status. Admittedly I won't be buying it until I upgrade as the lower FPS, while playable, was annoying.
#7 Aug 25 2010 at 6:14 PM Rating: Good
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I think SE mention there will be another benchmark for Open Beta and Retail

Maybe that one will be more accurate as SE did realise alot of the light PC user might not have a powerful rig. Alot of optimization was done since alpha.

IIRC the current benchmark was setup as a standard for closed beta.

But if you were in the test since alpha den i would be wrong abt the optimization.
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#8 Aug 25 2010 at 10:23 PM Rating: Good
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You cant come out and say its all BS thinking your gods gift to the world when the actual game is not even on the shelves yet.
The beta, although nicely done, is NOT the final product. and thus could be only a small graphical representation of the Game.

Don't put your eggs in one basket and think your going to throw away an OFFICIAL benchmark just because you THINK your right and the makers of the game MIGHT be wrong.

Come game day when you install the game all excited and pumped only to get into a sever and be instantly disconnect due to lag because your system is to crap to run it.... Don't come crying on this board about how pathetic SE are for making a game most gamers can't play, when you've been given **** of enough warning.

Take the benchmark EXACTLY as it is.... an OFFICIAL BENCHMARK
why else would they make it??


Edited, Aug 26th 2010 12:24am by JAck45
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#9 Aug 25 2010 at 10:36 PM Rating: Decent
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I don't know.

[2500-2999] Standard Performance
Capable of running the game on default settings.
[2000-2499] Slightly Low Performance
Capable of running the game, but may experience some slowdown. Adjust settings to improve performance.

I scored between 2400 and 2500 on average and this pretty much describes my beta experience to a T. I had it running in 720 on standard settings which was a bit choppy, so I lowered a few things such as shadows and texture detail and viola! The game ran o.k. Maybe you just have low standards.

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while playable, was annoying.

For me this pretty much sums it up.

Edited, Aug 25th 2010 9:37pm by GuardianFaith
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#10 Aug 25 2010 at 10:39 PM Rating: Decent
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JAck45 wrote:
You cant come out and say its all BS thinking your gods gift to the world when the actual game is not even on the shelves yet.
The beta, although nicely done, is NOT the final product. and thus could be only a small graphical representation of the Game.

Don't put your eggs in one basket and think your going to throw away an OFFICIAL benchmark just because you THINK your right and the makers of the game MIGHT be wrong.

Come game day when you install the game all excited and pumped only to get into a sever and be instantly disconnect due to lag because your system is to crap to run it.... Don't come crying on this board about how pathetic SE are for making a game most gamers can't play, when you've been given **** of enough warning.

Take the benchmark EXACTLY as it is.... an OFFICIAL BENCHMARK
why else would they make it??


Ever considered changing your name to JAck45***? That's what you sound like.

Edited, Aug 25th 2010 9:39pm by GuardianFaith
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#11 Aug 25 2010 at 10:48 PM Rating: Decent
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A Jackass?
Hmm right. Well take my post anyway you like.
I'm just stating if you run the benchmark crap and then get the actual game try running it and find out you cant because your system is crap, don't cry about it.
I prefer to be a Jackass thats playing the game when it comes out, than a whining baby that isn't. :)

Even thou you backed up my post by stating your scores and performance in beta :S
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#12 Aug 25 2010 at 10:58 PM Rating: Default
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I have two computers. My other is a corei7 930 with GTX460s in sli. It's not that I don't agree with what you said, it's the way you word it.

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You cant come out and say its all BS thinking your gods gift to the world


Isn't that a bit overdone?
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#13 Aug 25 2010 at 10:59 PM Rating: Decent
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My specs are:
CPU AMD quad core 635 @ 2.9ghz
6 GB RAM
Windows 7 64 bit
Nvedia gt 220

those are not to bad of spec for the game im wondering why you actually scored so low cause my spec are only
cpu intel (R) core(TH) 2duel core cpu p8400 @2.26 ghz / 2.27 ghz
4 gb ram
windows vista 64 bit
nvidia gforce 9800m gts 1gb

& it did almost 2k 1st time i ran it seems like your system is a pretty big upgrade from mine should be running little higher
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#14 Aug 25 2010 at 11:00 PM Rating: Default
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Ya I have seen people stream the beta running specs below the min. requirements and it looked and ran fine and they were streaming so that taxes your PC even more.

You know whats funny not to harp on todays events but considering they are trying to appeal to the "casual" gamers out there its funny they are making such high requirements for the game lol since most casual gamers are certainly not running very expensive PC rigs!
#15 Aug 25 2010 at 11:00 PM Rating: Good
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You know that benchmark test?
Essentially bullsh*t.


Just going off what OP stated.
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#16 Aug 25 2010 at 11:01 PM Rating: Default
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JAck45 wrote:
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You know that benchmark test?
Essentially bullsh*t.


Just going off what OP stated.


yeah in retrospect, he deserved it.
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#17Johnsmith129, Posted: Aug 25 2010 at 11:04 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) First of all i should have mentioned yes im speaking about ffxiv.
#18 Aug 25 2010 at 11:19 PM Rating: Decent
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You cant be 100% sure they can run the game if they fail the benchmark.
So I'm just giving a large amount of people a reality check, if they are clinging to the hope that there computers might be able to run it anyway think again.
Like i said, until the games out no one will know for sure, I just don't want to see 100's of posts flamming at SE for making such a strong game when you've all had time to do something about it.
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#19 Aug 25 2010 at 11:31 PM Rating: Default
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Okay so if my laptop did get 3500 on low settings, then I should be able to play fairly high? or at least play the game exceptionally well on regular settings?
#20 Aug 25 2010 at 11:44 PM Rating: Decent
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Yes, thats pretty much correct.
Just be wise to the resolution your running the game, and certain high settings and I'm sure you'll run this game no problem at all.
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#21 Aug 25 2010 at 11:47 PM Rating: Good
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This thread is Bulls$*t!


On a side note, there will be another benchmark. SE made a lot of changes since that first benchmark was released. I can tell you a couple of things about hardware.

If you don't have a quad core, and at least an ATI HD 5750 or GTX 460 .. then you are going to be missing out on a lot of the graphics this game has to offer.

I built my bro's rig that is running a Phenom II x4 3.0 and an HD 5750, 4 gigs DDR3 and he can run the game with everything but Ambient Occlusion and AA on. Still gets lag in populated areas, and FPS is never high. 12 - 20 FPS in town, and 30 - 50 in open areas.

I'm building my system now. Currently still using a dual core, but running a gtx465. the game runs exactly the same on my PC right now. Until i get a new mobo/cpu anyway. I'm going with an i7 and compatible mobo with SLI just in case.

Edit: Both machines scored a 2200 and 2400 in the benchmark (on low) respectively.

Edited, Aug 26th 2010 1:48am by Teneleven
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#22 Aug 26 2010 at 1:52 AM Rating: Decent
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Stating your pc runs beta just fine with low bench scores gives only a small indication of final, if for no other reason having a mass increase in the numbers of players onscreen in final will cause a lot of problems.

It's like playing in bastok and saying you can run the game fine then going to Whitegate and lagging out. Almost every area you can goto on final will be packed.

Edited, Aug 26th 2010 3:53am by preludes
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I am at both ends of this discussion.

I have played on my main rig (specs below) which killed the beta running pretty much maxed out. I anticipate a very good gaming experience on release at either full or close to full settings.

I have also played beta on my Alienware M11X which scored 1250 on the benchmark after overclocking. My M11X runs beta fine with settings on low and AO, shadows etc all off.

If my final game experience on the m11x is as good as beta, I will be happy to play at that quality when away from home. To be honest though I will be pleased to get home and play on a much better system.

At the end of the day, assuming beta is a reasonable proxy for final game, the benchmark probably was overly harsh. But at least expectations were set so no-one can complain to SE later if their system cant handle it. You have been told it wont if is scores less than 1300 (or whatever it was). If it does - you should be pleased!
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#24 Aug 26 2010 at 2:54 AM Rating: Decent
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Exactly, well said.
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#25 Aug 26 2010 at 3:51 AM Rating: Decent
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I hate to say it, but it's just sad that we can't play the game as the developers intended, ever 5 days some new **** is out, and i meant ****.

they carry on a series like 9 series and come up with a piece of crap like 9800GX2, its an ok card, but it was never any high spec card, like they advertised it for the time....which just goes to show, you don't get what you pay for......research people, ask a friend, it's worth it dudes....the pain of that kind of waste is just so haunting.

I know poeple will say buy it on console, but even then you just don't get the same performance as a good PC, not even close.
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