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#1 Aug 25 2010 at 9:42 PM Rating: Default
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Just going to make this short.

Flame me too **** and back, but please have some reading comprehension.

AS OF NOW, surplus is not on an actual timer but on what SE thinks a player will get in 8-15 hours of exp. It is a number and not set to a clock.

I am so against this it isnt even funny, but its getting old sifting through 100 posts about "WHAT IF I GO AFK... blah blah blah~!!!!"
#2 Aug 25 2010 at 9:43 PM Rating: Good
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Honestly, this ********* is likely to continue for quite some time. Especially when you consider that it has been timed with beta p3 ending, so everyone that would have been in beta right now suddenly has a lot more time on their hands.
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#3 Aug 25 2010 at 9:44 PM Rating: Good
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RIDDER, just going to make this short.

There are already like 5 threads on this topic. Post in the current one rather than make up your own thread and spread out the conversation further.
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#4 Aug 25 2010 at 9:45 PM Rating: Excellent
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RIDDER wrote:
Just going to make this short.

Flame me too **** and back, but please have some reading comprehension.

AS OF NOW, surplus is not on an actual timer but on what SE thinks a player will get in 8-15 hours of exp. It is a number and not set to a clock.

I am so against this it isnt even funny, but its getting old sifting through 100 posts about "WHAT IF I GO AFK... blah blah blah~!!!!"


So funny story, earlier in the day when we had a non-Elmer translation of that memo, the correct interpretation was that it was a time limit.

Now Elmer has come along and given us a better translation (and I can totally see how that was mistranslated as it's a bit awkward) and we know better now. But yeah, any posts made before about 10pm or so CDT are going to be under the (entirely correct at the time) assumption that surplus worked on a timer
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#5 Aug 25 2010 at 9:46 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm not gonna actively argue it; I trust enough that Elmer's translation of it is pretty accurate. So, this is just what I've HEARD: a beta player on BlueGartr says he has idled overnight and come back with a greater surplus than what he had when he stopped playing. (I can't say whether or not this is true, just that it has been claimed.)
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#6 Aug 25 2010 at 9:49 PM Rating: Decent
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My idler did not encounter this issue. Heck I actively played (but not xp'd constantly) for 12 hours in a single day and didn't hit xp surplus at the end of it.
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#7 Aug 25 2010 at 9:57 PM Rating: Default
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Mod feel free to lock this thread, it is not my intention to start the 1,214 thread about surplus and how it sucks/is good.

But to the first person who can give proof that 1% of Bsphil posts actually adds anything to a thread can have my beta account.

My original post may have had attitude but a lot of people either didnt understand the revised post by Elmer or just didnt read it. Trying to HELP cut down on some of this stuff is all.



#8 Aug 25 2010 at 10:17 PM Rating: Good
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RIDDER wrote:
But to the first person who can give proof that 1% of Bsphil posts actually adds anything to a thread can have my beta account.
If nobody takes your beta account by tomorrow I will.

By the way, how exactly did my post add nothing to the thread? I just explained to you why people prefer a single thread with the full discussion rather than 10 threads with bits and pieces spread and overlapped across all of them. The only way it wouldn't help is if you already knew that, and if you already knew that, why'd you do it anyway? You see, my post took what you did and flipped it back at you to clarify a point, like this:

My original post may have had attitude but you either didnt understand the point of avoiding multiple threads about the same topic or just didn't read the posts describing the rules. Trying to HELP cut down on some of this stuff is all.



Edited, Aug 25th 2010 11:20pm by bsphil
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#9 Aug 25 2010 at 10:26 PM Rating: Excellent
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RIDDER wrote:
But to the first person who can give proof that 1% of Bsphil posts actually adds anything to a thread can have my beta account.
Maybe once you have been here long enough to hear they same old story over and over you will understand why he rather just go straight to the point, matter of fact this topic don't need another thread.

Besides... regardless the tone (no offense bsphil but it's usually rather rude) his information is helpful and accurate.

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#10 Aug 25 2010 at 10:26 PM Rating: Default
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I did it because people most likely will not read through page after page on the same thread to get the actual information of how surplus ACTUALLY is working atm. But whatever.

As far as you go, imho i just see a very unhappy person that justs wants to be rude. And really im not even talking about your reply to my post. Its the hundreds of others ones i have read over the years. I may only have 73 posts but have come here for years and majority of responses from you are just rude.

Regardless, mods just lock this thread. My apologies for starting another thread on surplus and Bsphil have a good day i'm done reading your garbage.
#11 Aug 25 2010 at 10:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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RIDDER wrote:
I did it because people most likely will not read through page after page on the same thread to get the actual information of how surplus ACTUALLY is working atm. But whatever.
So you miss the thread titled "Komoto's Official Explanation of Surplus" made by Elmer probably one the persons better qualified to translate from Japanese to English, well... I guess you are right, some people actually miss information posted by the administrators right on the first page...

Ken

Edit: typo

Edited, Aug 26th 2010 4:45am by kenage
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