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#1 Aug 25 2010 at 11:46 PM Rating: Decent
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As topic, is there going to be a specific server many of the ZAM community will roll on?
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#2 Aug 26 2010 at 12:03 AM Rating: Good
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Officially, no. Unofficially, yes.

I dunno that we'll all lay down upon our sides and rotate horizontally upon our vertical axis though. We'll probably just walk around. I don't think there's a /roll in the game, but I'll give it a shot if it's added.

The unofficial server for Beta P3 was Ultimecia. This will probably change for retail, but will likely be the same for OB if the server names are the same.

Edited, Aug 26th 2010 2:21am by Mikhalia
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#3 Aug 26 2010 at 12:24 AM Rating: Decent
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oops double

Edited, Aug 26th 2010 2:24am by Silverwyrm
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I thought rotating horizontally in a vertical access while on your side was an activity everyone partook in in mmo's? Was I mistaken?

I don't remember any terms other than roll anymore, if there was any >.> guess I will "roll" Ultimecia on OB


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I thought rotating horizontally in a vertical access while on your side was an activity everyone partook in in mmo's? Was I mistaken?

I don't remember any terms other than roll anymore, if there was any >.> guess I will "roll" Ultimecia on OB


To be technical (hence the reason I went with "The picky" as my poster title), "rolling a character" implies a literal rolling of dice, or somewhat less literally, a game wherein your starting stats are randomized. Rerolling refers to creating a new character under such a system. There's no "rolling" involved if your starting stats are fixed :P

The term comes from pencil and paper RPGs like D&D, Vampire, and similar systems, but has been used (technically incorrectly) in MMORPGs as they have similar systems (STR, DEX, INT, HP, etc) and the terms just sorta stuck.

Another interesting note is the term mob. Back in the days of MUDs (Text-only adventures with no graphics or graphics limited to what text could reproduce), there were two typed of "objects". You had static, or "immobile" objects, and you had mobile objects, or "mobs" for short. Having nothing to do with a group of them, a "mob" simply referred to a mobile object, such as a monster or NPC that could change areas. The term stuck in the GUI RPG world to refer to monsters, as NPC was an accurate descriptor of non-hostiles (although some NPCs are still referred to as mobs).

But I digress. Smiley: schooled

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Peta P3

Also...whats a Peta P3? I must know!


That's me making a stupid typo :)

Edited, Aug 26th 2010 3:58am by Mikhalia
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#6 Aug 26 2010 at 1:59 AM Rating: Good
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Check your PMs, I left you some info.
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I've been on Ultimecia. Are you in Moogle inc.? I'm not, just wondering if that is all zam folks. I wanted to test, and not worry about LS's and stuff, but with open beta, i can stop testing and be social lol.
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I've been on Ultimecia. Are you in Moogle inc.? I'm not, just wondering if that is all zam folks. I wanted to test, and not worry about LS's and stuff, but with open beta, i can stop testing and be social lol.


No, our LS was named after an old one I had in XI, although we plan to pick a new name when we remake it for OB and/or retail. We were the ones with the purple and yellow stripes you see in pics among the forums.
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Who would wanna play with these whiney douchebags?
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#10 Aug 26 2010 at 2:17 AM Rating: Good
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TwistedOwl wrote:
Who would wanna play with these whiney douchebags?

Touche pussycat!
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TwistedOwl wrote:
Who would wanna play with these whiney douchebags?


What whiney douchebags are these?
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Mikhalia the Picky wrote:
TwistedOwl wrote:
Who would wanna play with these whiney douchebags?


What whiney douchebags are these?


Look at the forum...it's like a battlefield. Obviously I was referring to the outrage regarding the surplus exp...

This is starting to feel like Lord of the Flies though...

Edited, Aug 26th 2010 4:24am by TwistedOwl
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TwistedOwl wrote:
Mikhalia the Picky wrote:
TwistedOwl wrote:
Who would wanna play with these whiney douchebags?


What whiney douchebags are these?


Look at the forum...it's like a battlefield. Obviously I was referring to the outrage regarding the surplus exp...

This is starting to feel like Lord of the Flies though...

Edited, Aug 26th 2010 4:24am by TwistedOwl


Oh, I thought that was a jab at my/our LS just because you and I were disagreeing in that other topic.

Perhaps I'm taking things too personally :P My apology.
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You have an arrogant know-it-all view of the system then.

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The lord of the flies was a great book. Everytime i see a surplus xp thread, i see a pigs head on a stick. Man, i wish i didn't read that now lol.
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#16 Aug 26 2010 at 2:29 AM Rating: Good
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You have an arrogant know-it-all view of the system then.



Perhaps it's just because it's 4:30 AM but I'm not sure if you're insulting me or being sarcastic or what...
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The lord of the flies was a great book. Everytime i see a surplus xp thread, i see a pigs head on a stick. Man, i wish i didn't read that now lol.


Show me how to lie you're getting better all the time and turning all against the 1 that's an art that's hard to teach

With a thousand lies and a good disguise hit 'em right between the eyes hit 'em right between the eyes!
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TwistedOwl wrote:
Teneleven wrote:
The lord of the flies was a great book. Everytime i see a surplus xp thread, i see a pigs head on a stick. Man, i wish i didn't read that now lol.


Show me how to lie you're getting better all the time and turning all against the 1 that's an art that's hard to teach

With a thousand lies and a good disguise hit 'em right between the eyes hit 'em right between the eyes!


That song is so catchy.
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#19 Aug 26 2010 at 2:36 AM Rating: Good
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Mikhalia the Picky wrote:
TwistedOwl wrote:
Teneleven wrote:
The lord of the flies was a great book. Everytime i see a surplus xp thread, i see a pigs head on a stick. Man, i wish i didn't read that now lol.


Show me how to lie you're getting better all the time and turning all against the 1 that's an art that's hard to teach

With a thousand lies and a good disguise hit 'em right between the eyes hit 'em right between the eyes!


That song is so catchy.


Indeed it is, and no I wasn't trying to insult you...but thinking maybe you're not seeing 100% of the picture. I'm like you, I don't know how this thing works, but I'm leaning on the side that suggests it will be ok soon, where you're on the opposite side...that's all it is
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We read that in Senior English class. That was more years ago then i care to admit. I remember it being much more brutal than the movie that came out. I think there was a movie anyway. But it just goes to show you what happens when a bunch of children are in charge of everything.
Kind of like WoW.
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We read that in Senior English class. That was more years ago then i care to admit. I remember it being much more brutal than the movie that came out. I think there was a movie anyway. But it just goes to show you what happens when a bunch of children are in charge of everything.
Kind of like WoW.


So dance ****** dance
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Welcome to where time stands still, no one leaves, and no one will.
The moon is full, never seems to change, it's labeled mentally deranged...
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Welcome to where time stands still, no one leaves, and no one will.
The moon is full, never seems to change, it's labeled mentally deranged...


SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANITARIUAM
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#24 Aug 26 2010 at 2:48 AM Rating: Good
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Leave me be!

I'm going to bed .. nite y'all.
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#25 Aug 26 2010 at 2:49 AM Rating: Good
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Teneleven wrote:
Leave me be!

I'm going to bed .. nite y'all.


Just leave me alone...
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#26 Aug 26 2010 at 2:51 AM Rating: Good
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TwistedOwl wrote:
Mikhalia the Picky wrote:
TwistedOwl wrote:
Teneleven wrote:
The lord of the flies was a great book. Everytime i see a surplus xp thread, i see a pigs head on a stick. Man, i wish i didn't read that now lol.


Show me how to lie you're getting better all the time and turning all against the 1 that's an art that's hard to teach

With a thousand lies and a good disguise hit 'em right between the eyes hit 'em right between the eyes!


That song is so catchy.


Indeed it is, and no I wasn't trying to insult you...but thinking maybe you're not seeing 100% of the picture. I'm like you, I don't know how this thing works, but I'm leaning on the side that suggests it will be ok soon, where you're on the opposite side...that's all it is


Like I said, it's 4:30 AM and the only thing keeping me going right now is Pepsi and loud techno music. I freely admit I don't think clearly all the time under these conditions.

I'll also admit that I may not totally understand the specifics of the situation. As I said, I just hear SE tell us that "after a while, you will get less XP" and the grinder in me sees this as a bad thing.

I'll tell ya a story.

I'm leveling... BLM, if I recall correctly. We got a party together and headed off to Bibiki. XPed for about 8 hours before someone had to go. Replaced them and kept going. Replaced another like 4 or 5 hours later... I decided to log off 22 hours into the party (22 hours from when we arrived at camp), found a SAM to replace me, logged where I stood and crawled into bed. Woke up 8 hours later, logged on and the SAM that had replaced me was about to take off for sky farming or something so I took his/my spot back and went for another 12 or 14 hours before the party finally broke (and I put my LFP flag up again).

That's one of my longest sessions, sure, but I've had quite a good bit of 6-8 hour parties. Sometimes 2-4 of them in a single week. My idea of fun is a 5+ hour long party. Honestly, I don't even start getting into my rhythm until the second or third hour.

Throw in some soda/alcohol and some good tunes and you have some of my best moments in XI.

Or take WoW; one of the most fun times I've had in WoW was taking my Warlock from character creation screen to level 80. Did it in 2 1/2 weeks. Then I decided I wasn't happy with that, since I played nothing but Horde characters, and decided I had an unfair advantage of knowing all the quests and QuestHelper making life easy on me, so I turned off QuestHelper, made my first ever Alliance character of a class I had never played before, a Night Elf Hunter, and took THAT from Character creation to level 80 in 19 days.

That's how I have fun. Hours of killing sh*t.

So yeah, I just don't like the idea of a system put in place to limit grinding. Perhaps you're right and "it's not as bad as we think" but when I hear about systems like this, I always feel like I'm the type of gamer they're aimed at.

I plan to cut back my XIV play time to only 25-35 hours a week and take it easy compared to my usual 50-70 hours per week that I prefer to spend (although I may end up closer to 40 as my XIV life goes on), but I just worry about how often I'm going to hit this wall.

So I admit I haven't hit the wall, and I don't know where the wall is. But knowing that the wall exists is what irks me.

EDIT: Oh yeah, that's the other side effect of posting at 4-5 AM while hopped up on caffiene and techno: I get really really really long winded in my posts because I just say whatever comes to mind as it comes to mind and don't bother to proofread or edit.

Edited, Aug 26th 2010 4:53am by Mikhalia
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Leave me be!

I'm going to bed .. nite y'all.


Just leave me alone...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJFJ_q7J8gs
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#28 Aug 26 2010 at 2:59 AM Rating: Good
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Mikhalia the Picky wrote:
TwistedOwl wrote:
Teneleven wrote:
Leave me be!

I'm going to bed .. nite y'all.


Just leave me alone...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJFJ_q7J8gs


I love that song...I might need to seek help in regards to that...however, don't belittle metallica lyrics because they are better than you, better than all of us
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#29 Aug 26 2010 at 3:03 AM Rating: Good
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TwistedOwl wrote:
Mikhalia the Picky wrote:
TwistedOwl wrote:
Teneleven wrote:
Leave me be!

I'm going to bed .. nite y'all.


Just leave me alone...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJFJ_q7J8gs


I love that song...I might need to seek help in regards to that...however, don't belittle metallica lyrics because they are better than you, better than all of us


Depends on the era of Metallica we're talking about.
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Mikhalia the Picky wrote:
TwistedOwl wrote:
Mikhalia the Picky wrote:
TwistedOwl wrote:
Teneleven wrote:
Leave me be!

I'm going to bed .. nite y'all.


Just leave me alone...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJFJ_q7J8gs


I love that song...I might need to seek help in regards to that...however, don't belittle metallica lyrics because they are better than you, better than all of us


Depends on the era of Metallica we're talking about.


How about early 80s with Cliff Burton still playing bass?
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TwistedOwl wrote:
Mikhalia the Picky wrote:
TwistedOwl wrote:
Mikhalia the Picky wrote:
TwistedOwl wrote:
Teneleven wrote:
Leave me be!

I'm going to bed .. nite y'all.


Just leave me alone...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJFJ_q7J8gs


I love that song...I might need to seek help in regards to that...however, don't belittle metallica lyrics because they are better than you, better than all of us


Depends on the era of Metallica we're talking about.


How about early 80s with Cliff Burton still playing bass?


Works for me. If you had anything after the Black Album, I may have had to fight you.
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