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#1 Aug 27 2010 at 2:43 AM Rating: Excellent
EDIT: Poll closed to make a new one with more choices in hopes of better accuracy. New poll can be found here:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?game=268&mid=1282972379260957472&page=1

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Edited, Aug 27th 2010 10:15pm by SamusKnight
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#2 Aug 27 2010 at 2:45 AM Rating: Excellent
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The first choice should've been "Yes I can't freakin wait!!!!" not..."I can tolerate it"...because I can't freakin wait!!! :D
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#3 Aug 27 2010 at 2:46 AM Rating: Excellent
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Who cares about fatigue if the party mechanics and desire is there.
#4digitalcraft, Goblin in Disguise, Posted: Aug 27 2010 at 2:48 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I can't help but feel that you're being a negative whiny ***** just to be. Go away.
#5 Aug 27 2010 at 2:49 AM Rating: Good
I put "tolerate" in there as in "I like the current system" OR "I don't like it, but can tolerate it". Many of us are excited, but I didn't see the need to make multiple options as all that matters is if you plan to buy it, if you won't buy it, if you're waiting until after it comes out, or if you may get it depending on how things turn out in the open beta.

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I can't help but feel that you're being a negative whiny ***** just to be. Go away.


To who is this directed at? If at me I don't see how I'm being negative or whining. I'm just curious as to who plans to get the game still. The whole "tolerate" thing as I said above is meant for people who don't really like the system but will get the game anyway. I figured putting "OMGZ! I wuv the game! I plan to buy it ASAP!" would just get complaints about people not being that excited about the release due to the current system but would still play it anyway. But if it's really that big of an issue I'll fix the first one then.

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#6 Aug 27 2010 at 3:07 AM Rating: Excellent
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Deja vu, let's see what did I write before...

I actually went to GS & paid off the rest of my CE pre-order the other day. Can't wait to play the real thing. Between my beta experience and the potential of them tweaking the "controversial system" further I think the whole thing got blown way out of proportion. Never considered canceling my order...
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I would have chosen the last choice but I can live with the surplus, it's the guildleve system that's bothering me. If they change that I'll buy the game, if not, I wont. So I chose the second to last choice.
#8 Aug 27 2010 at 3:28 AM Rating: Excellent
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I will still be getting the game regardless of the current systems. I just preordered my copy of the CE on Tuesday. I think that most of the issues I am worried about (UI lag and mouse issues) will be worked out by release. Also I am ok with the fatigue/surplus system as I plan to have a well rounded character and I don't see it affecting me much.
If I get into the open beta it's possible that this opinion will change but I kinda doubt it, I've been too excited for this game for too long.
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Yess i have ordered the CE in July. Like surplus system .................
#10 Aug 27 2010 at 5:32 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm still getting the CE on release.

While it may not affect me, I still see the surplus/fatigue system as a punishment which singles out those with time or those who wish to only level a few classes. I think it's wrong to place such a limit on the play-style of a major group of players, a play-style which is present in almost every MMO. I still think if this is not carefully adjusted, SE is going to alienate a lot of potential players.

Oh well, years of Asian MMOs have taught me two things: if they want to do something detrimental (which still remains to be seen), but they see it as "unique", they're going to do it, and anyone outside of their own country is just there to give them money - they usually have little to no voice. (read Thayos' editorial)

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:rates up: Everyone that didn't mention the S word in this Thread.

I have my CE on order and a standard edition one too for my girlfriend as she wanted the goggles that come with that one over the Helm. I don't care what SE does or doesn't do. I'm getting the game regardless. Com'on 22nd!
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#12 Aug 27 2010 at 5:51 AM Rating: Excellent
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Considering I was willing to shell out $700-$1000 before I knew much of anything about the game, I don't see how actually getting more information is gonna change that.
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Nice, Redyoshi. ^^
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#14 Aug 27 2010 at 8:19 AM Rating: Excellent
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Games been ordered since July, nothing is going to cause me to cancel it.
#15 Aug 27 2010 at 8:20 AM Rating: Excellent
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Games been ordered since July, nothing is going to cause me to cancel it.


I've had 2 CE's ordered from within 30min of them being on sale, I plan on staying on target.
#16 Aug 27 2010 at 8:26 AM Rating: Good
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I have pre-ordered CE versions for my nephew, my wife, and me, and everything I have heard about the game I either like or want to know more about... so yeah, I'm all in baby!

It's Final Fantasy, and there is no Blitz Ball, what could possibly go wrong:P?
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#17 Aug 27 2010 at 8:28 AM Rating: Decent
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We need an option for "I dont really care, I just want to play"
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I like how the only positive answer even has a negative connotation on it with the "I can tolerate it" part. I think it's clear which way the poll creator is voting.
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#19 Aug 27 2010 at 8:33 AM Rating: Decent
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I pre-ordered the collectors version awhile back and still excited to start playing ( I didn't get into the beta)

Also not sure if anyone saw they actually gave a date for open beta to start.
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#20 Aug 27 2010 at 8:41 AM Rating: Decent
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I like how the only positive answer even has a negative connotation on it with the "I can tolerate it" part. I think it's clear which way the poll creator is voting.


This is actually a pretty serious problem if you want an accurate survey. As you said, the intent of the creator is pretty obvious in the questions, it is basically leading you to a negative answer. This will almost certainly introduce bias. But since this is a ZAM poll, I really doubt many people will care that much, heh.
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#21 Aug 27 2010 at 8:48 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm still getting the game. I'm not going to let speculation (defining surplus as detrimental is speculation since we don't know how it will affect individuals until release) deter me from playing this.
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2 new pc's(for wife and I) and 2 CE's...um yea...I'll be there will bells on.

Only concern is the Auction system...but they'll get it right eventually.
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#23 Aug 27 2010 at 9:08 AM Rating: Excellent
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I answered "will wait and see after release."

I'm on hold until I can confirm changes to the market system and UI. Hopefully they start to get addressed in the open beta.
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I know it's been a while since I posted (I wonder why that might be :x) but I am still getting the game. I do think, however, that the only way the "surplus system" can be justified is if they lowered the monthly fee to play because for people who don't want to play other classes, they will not be able to successfully play as much in one month as someone who does want to try many different classes.
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I'm still getting it, though probably the day after release day due to shipping delay. :(

I don't have a large amount of time to spend myself so it only affects me positively, though I worry for new players later on. If the physical level cap takes over a year to get to under the current system that would make it hard for new players who join late to catch up.
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Picked the first option. The more I think about it, the more I think it either doesn't affect me or affects me in a positive way. I was kind of stressed because I knew for sure that I wanted to try (at minimum) Archer and Conjurer, but would feel like I was neglecting one if I tried the other. Obviously, I don't feel that way now. However, I still hope that this is resolved in a way that makes a majority of people feel comfortable, regardless of what that means for my experience. I'm the kind of person who will find a way to enjoy the game either way.
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I am just as excited now as I have been about playing this. Even after beta with its issues I still think the positives far outweigh the negatives for me personally. I had a blast playing beta, and hopefully with more polish things will improve even more. I haven't once thought about canceling my pre-order and at this point I can safely say I doubt I ever will.
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I know it's been a while since I posted (I wonder why that might be :x) but I am still getting the game. I do think, however, that the only way the "surplus system" can be justified is if they lowered the monthly fee to play because for people who don't want to play other classes, they will not be able to successfully play as much in one month as someone who does want to try many different classes.
Even if someone only wants to play one class, they are going to eventually have to level up other classes in order to obtain some of those abilities on their main class. FFXI, I have/had no interest in ever playing jobs like NIN, BLM, WAR, DNC, etc, but I still had to level them in order to use their abilities from subjobs on the ones I did want to play.

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#29 Aug 27 2010 at 10:59 AM Rating: Good
Oh yeah, and still looking forward to it.
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I'm definitely still getting my CE on release day. I didn't spend a few hundred bucks overhauling my PC to let the surplus system ruin it all for me. XIV is still going to be an amazing game.
#31 Aug 27 2010 at 11:15 AM Rating: Good
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Picking up my preorder from gamestop. I'm going to play on CE release day and I'm not letting the doom and gloom and BS stop me.
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#32 Aug 27 2010 at 11:53 AM Rating: Good
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Of course. My expectations will be lowered a bit but there are way too many things we haven't seen yet to get caught up by a couple of setbacks.
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Definitely getting CE. Even though I'm not happy with many features, I think the game is still going to be fun, and with many unavoidable fixes, the game will only get better.
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It's Final Fantasy, and there is no Blitz Ball, what could possibly go wrong:P?
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HEY!!!


...I liked blitzball *sad face*
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I would love to be playing on PC release, but me and a new PC are not in the stars. I will be playing day one on PS3 release, but that's not in the poll. Hopefully something awesome will happen and SE will get the PS3 version ready before March.
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Games been ordered since July, nothing is going to cause me to cancel it.


Same.
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Yeay for the (mostly) positivity! :D

If I could live with FFXI at JP launch, I don't see how the current "limitations" can stop me from getting CE come 9/22.
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SickleSageKiroh wrote:
rfolkker wrote:


It's Final Fantasy, and there is no Blitz Ball, what could possibly go wrong:P?

HEY!!!

...I liked blitzball *sad face*

Me too. Jecht shot ftw.


As for the game. The only reason I'd buy it is to reserve my character names, though since I can do that from open beta, there's no reason to buy it. However, most likely there's going to be some restriction on this, so I may be forced to buy it. (Yeah, I'm that picky. Would've done the same with SC2 if it hadn't removed the identifier thing.)

The beta experience has been nothing but garbage for me. Ridiculous system requirements, bad game engine choices, servers located in Japan, and just generally bad game design choices. All can be improved over time (except server location), but seeing the progress that's been made, it'll take months instead of weeks, if anything is even changed at all.

Surplus exp is one of the least things that bothers me right now.

Edit: Just to get it out there, I started playing FFXI in December 2003. I quit sometime in 2005.


PS: Does anyone know how to actually quote posts? It better not be premium only. Thanks, TwistedOwl. Don't know why there isn't just a single 'quote reply' button like on normal forums.

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HEY!!!

...I liked blitzball *sad face*

Me too. Jecht shot ftw.


As for the game. The only reason I'd buy it is to reserve my character names, though since I can do that from open beta, there's no reason to buy it. However, most likely there's going to be some restriction on this, so I may be forced to buy it. (Yeah, I'm that picky. Would've done the same with SC2 if it hadn't removed the identifier thing.)

The beta experience has been nothing but garbage for me. Ridiculous system requirements, bad game engine choices, servers located in Japan, and just generally bad game design choices. All can be improved over time (except server location), but seeing the progress that's been made, it'll take months instead of weeks, if anything is even changed at all.

Surplus exp is one of the least things that bothers me right now.


PS: Does anyone know how to actually quote posts? It better not be premium only.


There's 2 ways, the way I just did it was click on "Reply to Post" above your post and right next to Markup: is a small (Quote Original) link that can be pressed and immediately quotes your entire post

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#40 Aug 27 2010 at 9:42 PM Rating: Good
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Surplus XP is one of several reasons why I'm thinking of cancelling my preorder.
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Played the beta and I loved it. Will be picking it up on the 22nd for sure.
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Harri wrote:
Bluefirefly wrote:
I know it's been a while since I posted (I wonder why that might be :x) but I am still getting the game. I do think, however, that the only way the "surplus system" can be justified is if they lowered the monthly fee to play because for people who don't want to play other classes, they will not be able to successfully play as much in one month as someone who does want to try many different classes.
Even if someone only wants to play one class, they are going to eventually have to level up other classes in order to obtain some of those abilities on their main class. FFXI, I have/had no interest in ever playing jobs like NIN, BLM, WAR, DNC, etc, but I still had to level them in order to use their abilities from subjobs on the ones I did want to play.


So you're agreeing with the stigma that people had to level certain jobs to play their main choices? I don't really think this is a very strong argument as to why they should implement the new system, even if what you are saying makes sense.

That aside, my comment was half-joking and addressed how some people would not want to be pushed into the same 'required jobs' situation that FFXIV has promised to change from FFXI.
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I know lots of people are saying they are not happy with alot of features in the game. I look at it in the long run. FF XI is really a different game now then it was back 6 years ago. I'm sure the same will happen with XIV so I am not worried at all.
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I know lots of people are saying they are not happy with alot of features in the game. I look at it in the long run. FF XI is really a different game now then it was back 6 years ago. I'm sure the same will happen with XIV so I am not worried at all.
Then maybe I'll try it a few years later when it's good.
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#45 Aug 27 2010 at 10:56 PM Rating: Good
I'm personally going to wait it out, I just haven't been able to get a good feel for the beta at all. Not sure what's off for me, but I'm just not enjoying it when I log on. I'll wait until Christmas or so to see how it goes, should be plenty of people starting off over the holidays if I do decide to join, along with established linkshells.

Glad to see most people are looking forward to it though, if the majority of you guys are the one's who stick it out, it'll make me more optimistic once the game is released.
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I'm personally going to wait it out, I just haven't been able to get a good feel for the beta at all. Not sure what's off for me, but I'm just not enjoying it when I log on. I'll wait until Christmas or so to see how it goes, should be plenty of people starting off over the holidays if I do decide to join, along with established linkshells.

Glad to see most people are looking forward to it though, if the majority of you guys are the one's who stick it out, it'll make me more optimistic once the game is released.
This is the main factor for me as well. I'm not enjoying the core of the game because... it's just not that fun. Hopefully that would change at release, but I don't see why they'd let us beta test something that wasn't the real game.
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I'm personally going to wait it out, I just haven't been able to get a good feel for the beta at all. Not sure what's off for me, but I'm just not enjoying it when I log on. I'll wait until Christmas or so to see how it goes, should be plenty of people starting off over the holidays if I do decide to join, along with established linkshells.

Glad to see most people are looking forward to it though, if the majority of you guys are the one's who stick it out, it'll make me more optimistic once the game is released.

That's all well and good, but i just hope you weren't expecting too much from closed beta. Most of the content wasn't there. If you are in beta, maybe you should give open beta a try before you make a decision. There will be loads more content.
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I'm personally going to wait it out, I just haven't been able to get a good feel for the beta at all. Not sure what's off for me, but I'm just not enjoying it when I log on. I'll wait until Christmas or so to see how it goes, should be plenty of people starting off over the holidays if I do decide to join, along with established linkshells.

Glad to see most people are looking forward to it though, if the majority of you guys are the one's who stick it out, it'll make me more optimistic once the game is released.
This is the main factor for me as well. I'm not enjoying the core of the game because... it's just not that fun. Hopefully that would change at release, but I don't see why they'd let us beta test something that wasn't the real game.

It's hard to take a beta seriously. There's no real investment in your character. Once retail hits, and your data won't be wiped, i think it will be different. Everything is going to matter, and all the content, and rules of engagement will apply. Right now, it's hard to connect with the character you make, and the game, since it isn't really a game yet.
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I'm personally going to wait it out, I just haven't been able to get a good feel for the beta at all. Not sure what's off for me, but I'm just not enjoying it when I log on. I'll wait until Christmas or so to see how it goes, should be plenty of people starting off over the holidays if I do decide to join, along with established linkshells.

Glad to see most people are looking forward to it though, if the majority of you guys are the one's who stick it out, it'll make me more optimistic once the game is released.
This is the main factor for me as well. I'm not enjoying the core of the game because... it's just not that fun. Hopefully that would change at release, but I don't see why they'd let us beta test something that wasn't the real game.

It's hard to take a beta seriously. There's no real investment in your character. Once retail hits, and your data won't be wiped, i think it will be different. Everything is going to matter, and all the content, and rules of engagement will apply. Right now, it's hard to connect with the character you make, and the game, since it isn't really a game yet.
It's not that I can't take it seriously, I just don't want to because the game isn't fun. I haven't enjoyed the guildleve system at all. Yeah it's nice for grinding exp (which is apparently frowned upon by SE anyway) but they make it out to be such a central aspect of the game and it's boring. Not being able to change gear while in active mode is a boring easymode catered to casual play. Stuff like that I don't see changing once all that hidden content is opened after the beta ends and the game goes live. Worst of all, SE has stated that they won't be changing the game if we don't like it because most people will still pay to play anyway.



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#51 Aug 27 2010 at 11:27 PM Rating: Good
I realize what the beta is, and will continue to participate. That being said, as it stands, I'm just not enjoying any part of it. Will this all change with open beta? Doubtful, unless the game undergoes a massive change in terms of mechanics and such and overall feel. I'm not too **** bent on playing for release anyways as the first couple years will have a massive turn over, if not the first few years. Therefore waiting out a few months, won't hurt anything in the least bit since new players will constantly be arriving.

Like I said, if you're psyched about this game starting up, all the power to you. They're obviously doing something right with the number of pre-sales + number of positive posts on these forums. Not every game is for every one. I love Final Fantasy games overall, but some of them are just flat out bad, but again, that's my opinion since the game's have all sold millions of copies and the one's I hate are adored by others.
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