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#1 Aug 27 2010 at 11:12 PM Rating: Excellent
Do you intend on purchasing FFXIV still despite the current limitations/restrictions?
Yes! Definitely! The system won't affect my gameplay.:43 (31.6%)
Yes! Definitely! I don't care about the system in place.:19 (14.0%)
Yes, the system doesn't seem so bad.:26 (19.1%)
Yes, I don't like the system but I can live it for now.:30 (22.1%)
No, the current system is terrible. I'll buy after release if it's changed or removed.:4 (2.9%)
No, the current system is terrible. SE lost a customer for good on this game.:2 (1.5%)
No, I plan to wait until after the game is released before I decide.:6 (4.4%)
No, but depending on if they fix or remove it by open beta then yes.:6 (4.4%)
Total:136


The question is: Will you be buying the game on release day or waiting it out?

Since people weren't happy with the current poll I had going so I deleted and making a fresh one. I've removed the tolerate thing since it seemed some weren't happy about it and expanded the choices. I had condensed the choices at first to keep it simple but if it will make a more accurate poll then I'll keep multiple choices. Eight choices ranging from excited to waiting on results from open beta. If something should be changed please let me know. I'm not trying to make a negative or biased poll here, just an idea of where everyone stands on their decision at this time.
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#2 Aug 27 2010 at 11:22 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm happy that the grind is being replaced by the exp limit system. FFXI gobbled up four years of my life in a hurry. I'm not interested in repeating that. Day 1 buy for me for sure and I can't wait.
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#3 Aug 27 2010 at 11:26 PM Rating: Decent
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TauuOfSiren wrote:
I'm happy that the grind is being replaced by the exp limit system. FFXI gobbled up four years of my life in a hurry. I'm not interested in repeating that. Day 1 buy for me for sure and I can't wait.
The grind isn't being replaced at all. I'm not sure why people keep thinking that. It's just being artificially extended by stopping people from grinding too quickly.
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#4 Aug 27 2010 at 11:27 PM Rating: Good
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I'm somewhere between: "Yes, the system doesn't seem so bad." and "Yes, I don't like the system but I can live it for now."

Every day I think about it, the more okay I am with it.

I've read some interesting opinions on why it just *seems* bad due to psychology and other interesting opinions on why it really is a bad system. Part of me just wished they went with something less complicated like Rested EXP, but then everyone would be whining that it copied *insert other MMO here*.

Edited, Aug 28th 2010 12:28am by ShinoHaven
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#5 Aug 27 2010 at 11:28 PM Rating: Excellent
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I didn't see a big deal about the previous one, you explained that the 1st choice included both Yes, Definitely! & Yes, I can tolerate it because the answer to both of these is still yes...makes sense to me, but oh well...there could always be more options even with this new 1. My answer is yes, but my overall opinion on the surplus could change during open beta when I purposely test it out. So really my answer is a combination of the yes answers depending on how things turn out, I chose that it doesn't seem so bad for now...
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#6 Aug 27 2010 at 11:31 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm waiting to see how this has been adjusted in the open beta. From there, if it sounds reasonable I'll go ahead with my purchase and see how it goes. If it still seems within reason, then I'll continue from there.
#7 Aug 27 2010 at 11:38 PM Rating: Decent
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I didn't see a big deal about the previous one, you explained that the 1st choice included both Yes, Definitely! & Yes, I can tolerate it because the answer to both of these is still yes...makes sense to me, but oh well...there could always be more options even with this new 1. My answer is yes, but my overall opinion on the surplus could change during open beta when I purposely test it out. So really my answer is a combination of the yes answers depending on how things turn out, I chose that it doesn't seem so bad for now...


Well it's pretty much your thought at this time that counts. From what I've seen roaming about the forums everyone has their different reasons for why they would or wouldn't get FFXIV now. The options above I would at least hope cover the major parts. Some don't care, some won't be affected, others like it or think it's okay. Then you've got those who hate it. Among those are people who are holding out for it to change, some are completely disgusted by it and I think talk of wanting to boycott the game arose from somewhere... But you've also got those who are still on the fence about it all and either support or don't support it. They're waiting until the game comes out to see how it really plays out and some are waiting until it's fully tested in the upcoming open beta before they cancel their preorder or decide to preorder.
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#8 Aug 27 2010 at 11:59 PM Rating: Excellent
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"Maybe, depending on my bank account balance at the time." I don't really care about Surplus as I doubt it'll be effecting me. It'll have nothing to do with whether I buy on release date or not. Besides, I feel there are a lot more variables to worry about than just surplus.
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#9 Aug 28 2010 at 2:29 AM Rating: Good
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It's a new system I have to admit it didn't give me a heart-warming feeling about it, but the rest of the game looks amazing, and it wouldn't be fair to shot something down without even to try it.

If that was the case gaming would never improve and we would still be stuck with pacman ;p
#10 Aug 28 2010 at 11:08 AM Rating: Good
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even if they do not change the surplus just find things to off set it buy farming, making supplies, lvling other classes ext. by doing everything you will find that there is so much to do to keep you busy i do realize that maybe its not what some people want to do i would like to max one person asap but i can live with out doing it also by spending my time doing other things that i will not have to do later in the game. i actually find it not so bad if you look at it in a way of getting read of RMT ext. or a good start to it. they will always find ways around it but making it more difficult is worth it for some of us that work so hard for what we get just for some one that dont now anything to come along with better items & not put in time for items character ext. most people are looking at this in a negative way but it can be strategically done in a way that will in the long run not be so bad.
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#11 Aug 28 2010 at 11:12 AM Rating: Excellent
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Honestly, I'm surprised that ~80% of votes are "positive" remarks. The way people have been posting on forums, I would have thought that the percentages would be reversed. Unless everyone has "forum fever" and are just a lot more open about complaining and keep the positive thoughts to themselves. :P
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#12 Aug 28 2010 at 11:17 AM Rating: Decent
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Kaelia88 wrote:
Honestly, I'm surprised that ~80% of votes are "positive" remarks. The way people have been posting on forums, I would have thought that the percentages would be reversed. Unless everyone has "forum fever" and are just a lot more open about complaining and keep the positive thoughts to themselves. :P
People are upset because they don't want this to be so bad that they won't want to play. We want to play, and SE is ruining it. However, most people are going to want to play so badly they won't bother changing their preorder even if they walk into it not happy with the leveling system.
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#13 Aug 28 2010 at 11:36 AM Rating: Decent
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Personally, I'm kinda upset about this whole thing cause I really, really WANT this to be good, but so far all SE seems to be doing is proving all the predictions of "same ****, different title." Planning to wait and see. If they change this bass-ackwards retarded fatigue system before launch date hits, I'll give it a shot. If not, eh, I'll have Super Scribblenauts and Etrian Odyssey III to keep myself entertained with until either SE pulls their heads out of their asses or simply pulls the plug.
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#14 Aug 28 2010 at 2:12 PM Rating: Good
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I didnt see my option here, I will sometime around ps3 release.
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#15 Aug 28 2010 at 2:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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I have a very mild like for the system now that I actually understand it. Before, I thought that xp gain beyond lower levels was just absurdly slow.

Considering that I originally planned to more or less focus on leveling one job to cap like most people, even though I would have liked to stop and work on other classes, crafting, quests, etc., this system will affect me, but in a good way.
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#16 Aug 28 2010 at 2:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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I haven't canceled our pre-orders. . yet. I'm very seriously watching the situation, and if they it's not adjusted to a point I feel I can live with. . . well. . . I don't get billed until they're being packed, so I have time yet.

I have at least one friend who is stuck unable to play until PS3 launch though, and it sucks to know that I will NEVER be able to xp with her because of this system [unless I take a 6 month break so she can catch up]. I knew they were trying to get away from party and group play, but trying to force people to alienate your friends because they didn't start near the same time. . that's just low.
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#17 Aug 28 2010 at 2:30 PM Rating: Good
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I have at least one friend who is stuck unable to play until PS3 launch though, and it sucks to know that I will NEVER be able to xp with her because of this system [unless I take a 6 month break so she can catch up].


You don't know that for sure, that could be completely wrong...
Hopefully it is...

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You don't know that for sure, that could be completely wrong...
Hopefully it is...


This is Squeenix we're talking about here. When was the last time they took the advice of their fans to heart? ;)
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#19 Aug 28 2010 at 5:04 PM Rating: Good
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This is Squeenix we're talking about here. When was the last time they took the advice of their fans to heart? ;)


When they designed FFXIV to be more friendly toward casual players, lol. :P I dunno about you, but the FFXI I remember was full to the brim of people complaining about the grind! (Not me, I loved it, but just sayin'!)
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#20 Aug 28 2010 at 5:06 PM Rating: Good
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I haven't canceled our pre-orders. . yet. I'm very seriously watching the situation, and if they it's not adjusted to a point I feel I can live with. . . well. . . I don't get billed until they're being packed, so I have time yet.

I have at least one friend who is stuck unable to play until PS3 launch though, and it sucks to know that I will NEVER be able to xp with her because of this system [unless I take a 6 month break so she can catch up]. I knew they were trying to get away from party and group play, but trying to force people to alienate your friends because they didn't start near the same time. . that's just low.


You still have lots of jobs/plus I wouldn't be surprised if SE does a major expansion around the time of PS3 release - or even a big patch with several new jobs. Level a new job with them. Also if cap stays static for a long time then once they get a job to cap you will be able to play with them at least until caps change. Given how long 75 was the cap, I think that the time to get to max cap even with a weekly cap on exp per job will be miniscule compared to the amount of content done at cap.

It is absurd to suggest people would never catch up. If there is a max level people will always be able to catch up at cap - also if SE is constantly introducing new jobs there will always be opportunties to be a lower level.

Hopefully SE introduces a kind of level synch too. That would make it so levels wouldn't matter as much when it comes to partying with friends.



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#21 Aug 28 2010 at 5:14 PM Rating: Good
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Kaelia88 wrote:
Honestly, I'm surprised that ~80% of votes are "positive" remarks. The way people have been posting on forums, I would have thought that the percentages would be reversed. Unless everyone has "forum fever" and are just a lot more open about complaining and keep the positive thoughts to themselves. :P
People are upset because they don't want this to be so bad that they won't want to play. We want to play, and SE is ruining it. However, most people are going to want to play so badly they won't bother changing their preorder even if they walk into it not happy with the leveling system.


I really don't know how to take this. I mean I for one don't mind the surplus and will happily be playing the game with my girlfriend. A few weeks after the game is released, assuming SE doesn't change the surplus, the sites will be flooded with people ******** and complaining about how they just bought the game and then returned it knowing they weretn't happy with it. I mean I guess I understand they want to take that chance at the game getting 'fixed' but if that never happens then don't complain.
I voted for the 1st choice too.
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#22 Aug 28 2010 at 5:43 PM Rating: Good
To people planning to return it after release, you should know that once you open the game and use that access key you're not gonna get any refunds. In fact I think most places won't even take the game back once the seal's been broken. So if you think you may not like the game due to the limitations (Be it surplus, the guildleves, or whatever other reason.) you'd best wait until after the game has been released. Give it up to a month or so and look around on the feedback about it. You may not get the special in-game items for it but you won't waste your money just to find you don't like it.
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#23 Aug 29 2010 at 11:54 AM Rating: Decent
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There wasn't a maybe option :O lol
#24 Aug 29 2010 at 12:02 PM Rating: Default
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Voted Yes! Definitely! The system won't affect my gameplay. I was planning on leveling atleast 3 DoW just to be able to use the other abilities
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I think the only way I wouldn't play this game was if I opened up my CE box and there was a big ole steaming pile of %$#^ in it. I could probably look past it as long as the juices didn't seep into the journal. Smiley: lol
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Just canceled my CE preorder. Now to sit back and wait for them to scrap the system 6 months after release.
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