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#52 Aug 30 2010 at 10:42 AM Rating: Excellent
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2kbandit wrote:
http://i37.tinypic.com/qp5vz6.jpg

New MMO for him.

Edited, Aug 30th 2010 11:25am by 2kbandit


I've seen that before; the "fully PvP" part is the best part IMO.

EDIT: And the "No monthly fee" part is crap.

Edited, Aug 30th 2010 12:45pm by Mikhalia
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#53 Aug 30 2010 at 10:48 AM Rating: Good
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One could argue people are addictive by nature. It's just the way our brain functions. This lawsuit is just like the stupid lawsuits of people sueing tobacco companies because they got cancer for smoking 2 packs a day. A lot of them won the cases also.
#54 Aug 30 2010 at 12:31 PM Rating: Good
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BastokFL wrote:


Back in 2009, NCSoft banned this guy's 3 Lineage II accounts, claiming he was engaged in RMT. He then filed suit for $12 million in damages, claiming that NCSoft banned him unfairly and slandered him by accusing him of RMT.

It was only after that suit was dismissed that he amended it, reducing the damages to $3 million and claiming additionally that NCSoft was peddling an addictive product with no warnings and that they were actively banning accounts to "encourage" people to switch over to Aion instead.




NCSoft banned THOUSANDS of accounts from Aion in it's first month for RMT, which kind of flies in the face of his logic there.
Edit - Wanted to add - rightfully banned.

Edited, Aug 30th 2010 2:32pm by Tealtraum
#55 Aug 30 2010 at 2:43 PM Rating: Good
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Game addiction is a term I really hate when people try and use it medically, because I think it belittles serious addictions such as gambling and drugs. This guy loved the game, and began to neglect the rest of his life because of it. However, its something he wanted to do enough to have that effect, and not something he needed to do.
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#56 Aug 30 2010 at 3:05 PM Rating: Decent
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But how does a gaming addiction differ dramatically from a gambling addiction (rhetorical question)? Arguably, a gambling addiction is a classification of gaming addictions. No, they're not equivalent at all, but they share many similarities. Gambling addicts are addicted to the thrill that gambling gives them as they wager high stakes with potential payoffs-- the consequence being crippling debt. Gaming addicts are also addicted to the thrill of their game of choice and the escapism the game allows, but because those thrills don't ride on a few seconds and can continue to occur for as long as a subscription fee is paid-- the consequence being lost jobs and relationships.

Imagine a scenario where someone walks into a casino and simply pays a small entry fee for a chance to play with fake money. Doing well in the casino is still important to them even though it lacks the real monetary consequences. They spend all day in the casino trying to increase their winnings, hoping to rake in a high score. Is this person a gambling addict, or a gaming addict?

The lines are blurry, as the psychology behind them would expect.
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#57 Aug 30 2010 at 3:22 PM Rating: Good
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You're right, they are very similar. I draw the line because a gambling compulsion/addiction is a dangers habit itself. the casual gambler doesn't gamble when their down, or typically make longshot bets they cannot afford, while the gambling addict does.

gambling addiction is recognized in the DSM-IV, where I don't believe MMO-style gaming is. so there's the "official difference". Could MMO addiction be added after more testing, its likely, but I haven't read a single well done study on the subject, they're typically very amateurish and bias.

Personally I draw the lines between what I consider Real/serious addictions, and minor ones by where the harm to oneself is done. If the activity itself causes damage to a person (drugs, alcohol, overeating, gambling) I would classify it as serious. If the damage is harmed because one is addicted, and the activity itself is relatively harmless (MMOs, TV, I really can't think of many examples) I would consider it something else.

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#58 Aug 30 2010 at 4:29 PM Rating: Good
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This bum who is suing NCSoft clearly gave up on life and ran out of money...no reasonable jury would rule in his favor...I mean if it was soooo addictive, where's the class action lawsuit? People like this need to be smacked.
#59 Aug 30 2010 at 4:48 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah it shoudl have been thrown out of court. Yes i beleive it is a real addiction, (mabey not his) But games in genereal. Addcitions are things you cant control, some you dont want to. However There are options for this, you can get help for addictions. Sueing somebody or something becasue they made you do it should have teh same reaction as "devil made me do it" Psyc ward for you, no money.
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#60 Aug 30 2010 at 5:07 PM Rating: Good
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KingOfTheBongo wrote:
This bum who is suing NCSoft clearly gave up on life and ran out of money...no reasonable jury would rule in his favor...


This is America we're talking about. If you're expecting people to be reasonable, you're out of luck.
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#61 Aug 30 2010 at 6:03 PM Rating: Good
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