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#1 Aug 29 2010 at 9:10 PM Rating: Good
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On Sep. 22, 2010, along with the official launch of FINAL FANTASY XIV’s service, the Square Enix Account Management System will be significantly updated, adding a variety of payment features and more.

Due to these upgrades, current Square Enix account users will need to register their country of residence the first time they log in to the Square Enix Account Management System after the maintenance on Aug. 31, 2010.

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You are now required to accurately register your current region. If this differs from your previous registration, you may be prevented from using any services or products that you had been using on your Square Enix Account up until now. However, if you fail to update this information now, you may be prevented from accessing future services. We apologize for any inconvenience.


Hopefully no one in Japan or Europe decided to order the NA version of the game, because they wont let you use it if your region doesn't match. The same goes for products you already have registered from other regions. I think this only affects FFXI and FFXIV as well as the Crysta (SE's new online currency which full details and use haven't been completely revealed yet).

I don't see this being a big deal for me, more of an annoyance really, but will this affect any of you guys (negatively)?

Edit: I was just thinking: Since this all starts on the 1st of Sept (the same day Open Beta starts), will testers be required to do this in order to play? Maybe they are going to have them test this as well.

Edited, Aug 29th 2010 10:23pm by RayneZ
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Welll I'm here in Singapore (-_-ll And South East Asia or should should I say, the entire ASIA region is not even in the selection screen....

Its like they thought Japan = Asia or something (-_-lll
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Its like they thought Japan = Asia or something (-_-lll


Actually, I think they are just clumping everything that isn't NA or Japan into "Europe & Other Regions". Does that mean they will be expected to pay in European currency? As far as I know, Australia is being shipped EUR versions of the game as well.
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Its like they thought Japan = Asia or something (-_-lll


Actually, I think they are just clumping everything that isn't NA or Japan into "Europe & Other Regions". Does that mean they will be expected to pay in European currency? As far as I know, Australia is being shipped EUR versions of the game as well.


No idea whats shipping here to Singapore... I tried for around 1mth now. It seems like no major local supplier is shipping FFXIV here.

A number of us have pre orded NA<--- versions of the game already. So I guess good luck to them (-_-lll
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I'm living in Japan, preordering a USA version from Amazon, as far as I know there is no conflict between those, I have played FFXI for 4 years on the same situation w/o any mayor problem.

I believe you can register your country of residence and play with a different version, it has never been a problem.

Will this new policy change that?

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Actually, I think they are just clumping everything that isn't NA or Japan into "Europe & Other Regions". Does that mean they will be expected to pay in European currency? As far as I know, Australia is being shipped EUR versions of the game as well.


I saw this yesterday on the Square Enix site. I think the important division is in
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Europe & Other Regions is further broken down into Europe & Middle East, Africa & Oceana & Other regions. I am pretty sure Australia and other Asian areas would come under 'Oceana'. I wish they would show screehshots or even just a list breaking down the other regions into country of residence.

Though If I get a European game after they are doing this change and thenc an't play, I'll be pretty upset





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I believe you can register your country of residence and play with a different version, it has never been a problem.



You definitely can NOT do this.

SE has already announced that your SE regional registration must match the regional software that you use.
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Magnesium02 wrote:

Though If I get a European game after they are doing this change and then can't play, I'll be pretty upset


As far as I know, there are only 3 versions of the game. NA, EUR, and ***. Which regions will get which versions of the game? I have no idea.

With this in mind, I think the best bet is to wait until you receive your game before registering your region maybe, because it says you can not change it once you set it.

Would it be possible to set your region and place of residence and just use a different address for billing/credit card? I heard of people doing this with varying degrees of success with FFXI. Probably wouldn't risk it though.

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Well, this will be interesting between Beta3 and Open Beta... I had to create an EU account to use my German Codes... :)
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Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
kenage wrote:
I believe you can register your country of residence and play with a different version, it has never been a problem.



You definitely can NOT do this.

SE has already announced that your SE regional registration must match the regional software that you use.
Thanks for the confirmation, and before I just cancel my CE, it means that if I live in Japan I can't play the game in English, or it will be like beta and I can order the Japanese version and simply change the options in the configuration tool to get English... or ultimately it means that I be forced to lie on my registration in order to play the game in a language I can understand 100%?

I'm also looking for it at the moment, but if any of you guys have more information on the matter it will be highly appreciated.

Thank you very much in advance.

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A few things.
1. You can make a new SE account later on when you get your NA version. Set region to NA in your new SE account. This option is Win Win.

2. All the game's voice overs are done in english. So, worst case scenario, is buy the japanese version, and you can still understand a little of the game lol.

3. Learn to read and write in japanese fluently. But hurry, since you only have a few weeks.


I'd go with option number 1. :P
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A few things.
1. You can make a new SE account later on when you get your NA version. Set region to NA in your new SE account. This option is Win Win.

2. All the game's voice overs are done in english. So, worst case scenario, is buy the japanese version, and you can still understand a little of the game lol.

3. Learn to read and write in japanese fluently. But hurry, since you only have a few weeks.


I'd go with option number 1. :P


Perhaps, but you'd end up with some very intense parties with #3.

Side note: How the HECK do you quote a post in this dang board? I end up copy/pasting the stuff I want to and quote tagging it. Is there a button I just don't see?
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A few things.
1. You can make a new SE account later on when you get your NA version. Set region to NA in your new SE account. This option is Win Win.

2. All the game's voice overs are done in english. So, worst case scenario, is buy the japanese version, and you can still understand a little of the game lol.

3. Learn to read and write in japanese fluently. But hurry, since you only have a few weeks.


I'd go with option number 1. :P


Perhaps, but you'd end up with some very intense parties with #3.

Side note: How the HECK do you quote a post in this dang board? I end up copy/pasting the stuff I want to and quote tagging it. Is there a button I just don't see?


Yes, click "reply to post" that is on top of the message you want to quote. When the box pops up to type in, there is tab that says (quote original) right next to Markup:.

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Yes, click "reply to post" that is on top of the message you want to quote. When the box pops up to type in, there is tab that says (quote original) right next to Markup:.

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Good lord... thank you. I'm going to claim brain **** and move on. (I never saw it... I swear!)
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A few things.
1. You can make a new SE account later on when you get your NA version. Set region to NA in your new SE account. This option is Win Win.

2. All the game's voice overs are done in english. So, worst case scenario, is buy the japanese version, and you can still understand a little of the game lol.

3. Learn to read and write in japanese fluently. But hurry, since you only have a few weeks.


I'd go with option number 1. :P
My only real question is if I can pay with a Japanese credit card in a NA SE account? I can't find information about it in any place.

More over, can I register Japan as my place of residence in an NA account? or will be forced to lie? something I'm really not comfortable doing, this could be really detrimental for me, even to the point that I give up about the game, if there is no way to play legally in the language I have chosen.

About number 2, I'd say I'm not that bad at reading and writing Japanese... not THAT close to fluently of course, but one thing I'm sure after this years of living in Japan... English will always be easier* to understand even if it's my first language either.

Ken

* And not because of the difficulty in learning the language, it's just that with Japanese there are too many "barriers" to really understand what they are trying to say.
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Teneleven wrote:
A few things.
1. You can make a new SE account later on when you get your NA version. Set region to NA in your new SE account. This option is Win Win.

2. All the game's voice overs are done in english. So, worst case scenario, is buy the japanese version, and you can still understand a little of the game lol.

3. Learn to read and write in japanese fluently. But hurry, since you only have a few weeks.


I'd go with option number 1. :P
My only real question is if I can pay with a Japanese credit card in a NA SE account? I can't find information about it in any place.

More over, can I register Japan as my place of residence in an NA account? or will be forced to lie? something I'm really not comfortable doing, this could be really detrimental for me, even to the point that I give up about the game, if there is no way to play legally in the language I have chosen.

About number 2, I'd say I'm not that bad at reading and writing Japanese... not THAT close to fluently of course, but one thing I'm sure after this years of living in Japan... English will always be easier* to understand even if it's my first language either.

Ken

* And not because of the difficulty in learning the language, it's just that with Japanese there are too many "barriers" to really understand what they are trying to say.


Well, i imagine paying with a japanese credit card on an NA account probably won't work. Do you have anybody in america that can possibly either open an account in your name, or pay for the game for you? Someone that you could pay back of course. You could apply for a pre-paid CC, and have it delivered to family. Have them load it for you, and just pay them via western union every month.
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Could someone please explain to me what the point of the whole region thing is?

I can't see language being a "real" issue. Typically they bundle all languages into the software anyway [since essentially you only have ONE version of the software anyway--saves on distribution costs]

So what exactly is being region registered? Since it'd be a HUGE waste of time, money, and resources to make a different version of the game for every region, I'm guessing it's the software registration code. . but what's the point of that?? The code just says my version is legit, and since it's all the same program anyway. . . .

It almost seems like some attempt at anti-software piracy [which is the epitomy of asinine in a subscription based MMO] or. . . . honestly I can't think of a single reason why they're doing this O.O There is no practical use or purpose that I can fathom.

Someone please explain this to me
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#18 Aug 29 2010 at 10:52 PM Rating: Good
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I believe you can register your country of residence and play with a different version, it has never been a problem.



You definitely can NOT do this.

SE has already announced that your SE regional registration must match the regional software that you use.
Thanks for the confirmation, and before I just cancel my CE, it means that if I live in Japan I can't play the game in English, or it will be like beta and I can order the Japanese version and simply change the options in the configuration tool to get English... or ultimately it means that I be forced to lie on my registration in order to play the game in a language I can understand 100%?

I'm also looking for it at the moment, but if any of you guys have more information on the matter it will be highly appreciated.

Thank you very much in advance.

Ken



Sorry, I don't know that one just yet on the Credit Card part. This may be worth heading over to the FFXI forum and asking... Though maybe not as XI uses POL and XIV won't be? Who knows. I do know though that people are reporting being able to use IME to type in other languages.

I've never tried changing my language settings for the Beta. Does it change the in game language too, or just the window/menus?
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Could someone please explain to me what the point of the whole region thing is?

I can't see language being a "real" issue. Typically they bundle all languages into the software anyway [since essentially you only have ONE version of the software anyway--saves on distribution costs]

So what exactly is being region registered? Since it'd be a HUGE waste of time, money, and resources to make a different version of the game for every region, I'm guessing it's the software registration code. . but what's the point of that?? The code just says my version is legit, and since it's all the same program anyway. . . .

It almost seems like some attempt at anti-software piracy [which is the epitomy of asinine in a subscription based MMO] or. . . . honestly I can't think of a single reason why they're doing this O.O There is no practical use or purpose that I can fathom.

Someone please explain this to me



It's so that when RMT go to register their SE accounts and select "China" as their region, the website will play the AOL "Goodbye!" sound clip, and SE will have themselves a laugh Smiley: tongue

Joking... I honestly don't know why they're going through all of this trouble.
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Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
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Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
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I believe you can register your country of residence and play with a different version, it has never been a problem.



You definitely can NOT do this.

SE has already announced that your SE regional registration must match the regional software that you use.
Thanks for the confirmation, and before I just cancel my CE, it means that if I live in Japan I can't play the game in English, or it will be like beta and I can order the Japanese version and simply change the options in the configuration tool to get English... or ultimately it means that I be forced to lie on my registration in order to play the game in a language I can understand 100%?

I'm also looking for it at the moment, but if any of you guys have more information on the matter it will be highly appreciated.

Thank you very much in advance.

Ken



Sorry, I don't know that one just yet on the Credit Card part. This may be worth heading over to the FFXI forum and asking... Though maybe not as XI uses POL and XIV won't be? Who knows. I do know though that people are reporting being able to use IME to type in other languages.

I've never tried changing my language settings for the Beta. Does it change the in game language too, or just the window/menus?
Yes, in Beta, if you select another language it will change everything, which is not available for FFXI, you need to get the version for your selected language, and it will only contain that one.

In regard to FFXI, I never had a problem having an American, account and paying with a Japanese Credit Card, Actually my SE account is NA, but again I need to find out if I can still pay after this change with a Japanese credit card.

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I REALLY hate that they are trying to pull this region crap. Those of us in places like Australia, things can get a bit dicey.

My first account was an NA account for FFXI. My second account (I lost the details for the first so had to get another one -_-) was an EU account.

Quite often when you buy games out here, it's a toss up whether you are getting a NA import or an EU import.
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Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
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Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
kenage wrote:
I believe you can register your country of residence and play with a different version, it has never been a problem.



You definitely can NOT do this.

SE has already announced that your SE regional registration must match the regional software that you use.
Thanks for the confirmation, and before I just cancel my CE, it means that if I live in Japan I can't play the game in English, or it will be like beta and I can order the Japanese version and simply change the options in the configuration tool to get English... or ultimately it means that I be forced to lie on my registration in order to play the game in a language I can understand 100%?

I'm also looking for it at the moment, but if any of you guys have more information on the matter it will be highly appreciated.

Thank you very much in advance.

Ken



Sorry, I don't know that one just yet on the Credit Card part. This may be worth heading over to the FFXI forum and asking... Though maybe not as XI uses POL and XIV won't be? Who knows. I do know though that people are reporting being able to use IME to type in other languages.

I've never tried changing my language settings for the Beta. Does it change the in game language too, or just the window/menus?
Yes, in Beta, if you select another language it will change everything, which is not available for FFXI, you need to get the version for your selected language, and it will only contain that one.

In regard to FFXI, I never had a problem having an American, account and paying with a Japanese Credit Card, Actually my SE account is NA, but again I need to find out if I can still pay after this change with a Japanese credit card.

Ken

Honestly, if they accept your CC info for XI, theoretically, they will for XIV too. I would think so anyway. If not, check my last post for other options.
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Hopefully they still allow us to change the game's language from the config utility when the retail version comes out.

I always enjoyed switching between the Japanese and English versions of FFXI to see how certain things were translated and find out more about things that can only be learned by knowing information from both languages. I was anticipating being able to do this in XIV as well, but obviously I won't be able to tie a different-region game to the same SE Account. If they let us change the language the game runs in with any version that would be fine for me though.
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You know, you guys could e-mail SE support and ask if you can change the language in retail. It's a good time to try.
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You know, you guys could e-mail SE support and ask if you can change the language in retail. It's a good time to try.


Yeah, Except SE usually gives you copy & pasted answers that are either too general, too vague, or dont answer the question at all.

I too hope that we can change the language once the retail version comes out. I live in Japan, and therefore have to buy the Japanese version, however, my Japanese isnt 100% just yet, and I wanted to be able to change the language to English. Hopefully there wont be any issues.

BTW, Im waiting for the PS3 version to come out.
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This is causing massive issues for me.

I selected Australia as my location but was previously in NA beta and had to access NA account for my account.

I can no longer access the NA SE members area which means I have no access to any SE members area. MY beta downloaded was NA so I am not sure whether I will still be able to access that either (if I can ever get an OB key).

If I cant get into my account - how do i activate my key when (if) i get one.

SE have really not thought this through!
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i am 90% sure you can change the language easily in retail.

i have seen a quote saying that you would be able to do this however using a payment method of a region not matching the region you are living in might cause an issue. THIS is where I think the problems occur. I think they are going to be locking out credit cards to the region the game is for. (us-us credit card) its how I-tunes regulates people to stop them from downloading out of their region.
however i think you can buy crysta with that e-money stuff you can buy at a conbini since most japanese people do not have a credit card
i also played FFXI back before NA release and was using a US credit card and it worked fine. I think they are changing that now in an attempt to lock out RMT major countries. yes...this mean innocents will be boned.

now. from my Open beta experience i have a NA account and a JP account. both with beta access. both using the JP version of the installer (if there is even a difference) (after loging it it changes the webpage to English or Japanese). and i am fairly confident that you can use the beta version of the game to play after release. seeing as how...they already printed the game DVDs...with a beta version basicly...so they have to do an update anyways so its no different then the beta client. least...thats how its always rolled before in beta->relase. so if i can use the beta version which has both JP and EN (course theres some funny non translated parts)
only one question:
on the NA version of the game can you change your language?
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ok, this is what SE wrote to me in response to me not be able to read and understand Japanese 100% and needing an English copy:

Dear Customer,

Regarding your request for account support. Please find your answer below.

Currently there are no planned region restriction. We will be releasing the game in Japanese, English, French, and German.


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No planned region restrictions? ok so why the **** are we registering our accounts?
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