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#52 Aug 30 2010 at 2:44 PM Rating: Excellent
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EmotionBlues wrote:
I have never once stated that any brand name anything was better then hand picked parts.

And I even said Alienware is not in any way better then a home-made PC, either. In fact in one of my first replies I pointed out that you pay for bells, whistles - and brand name.

I will respectfully agree to disagree on what someone thinks is wasteful or not wasteful - but you're lumping me into a general population of people who purchase Alienwares for their own use/play and defend them until the grave.

I never defended Alienware - and once again I state - I only stood ground on the fact that Bold TextI PERSONALLY DID NOT FIND THE PURCHASE WASTEFULBold Text; I realize that my personal opinion is so outlandish and offensive that it causes everyone else to take a stance against it, apologies.

You can make comparison about your fiance, etc - whatever. Someone wanted something specific - and it was purchased as a Christmas gift. Parties involved were well aware of all the options - even presented the choice of building a PC from scratch that would perform better and someone would assemble (I'm comfortable changing cards, power supplies, RAM, etc.. but not complete assembly) it for us who we live with - and a choice was made. I view it as well worth it - others will not.

I'm not forcing my point of view on anyone at all - just offering my opinion on something. My most sincere apologies.



As much as your girlfriend loves the Alienware, I cant help but thing that she would have loved getting a better PC with the amount of money you spent. If my girlfriend wanted me to buy her an Alienware, I wouldn't do it. I would explain to her that I could build her something better, with the same amount of money, and if she didn't like it then she could buy it herself. Bottom line is you spent more money then you had to, and that pretty much defines waste.

Edited, Aug 30th 2010 4:45pm by Alkerr
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#53 Aug 30 2010 at 2:50 PM Rating: Good
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The economic value of a good or service has puzzled economists since the beginning of the discipline. First, economists tried to estimate the value of a good to an individual alone, and extend that definition to goods which can be exchanged. From this analysis came the concepts value in use and value in exchange.

Wealth maximization predicts that a person will choose to obtain the good or service in the place where it is cheapest, where the amount given up is the least.

Value is linked to price through the mechanism of exchange. When an economist observes an exchange, two important value functions are revealed: those of the buyer and seller. Just as the buyer reveals what he is willing to pay for a certain amount of a good, so too does the seller reveal what it costs him to give up the good.


If EB feels like he got a good deal for the computer he bought, then he got a perfectly viable economic solution. Because you don't value things the same way, Mik, doesn't mean his opinion is wrong. There are thousands of hugely successful luxury brands out there that don't sell a truly superior product, but are able to charge a premium for various intangibles associated with the name. In Alienware's case it is brand recognition and case customization/motorization that EB seems to care about. There hasn't been a single thread on this board about case modding, and there is little argument that case modding is more involved than the simple plug and play hardware installations that have caused so much concern on the board.

Let's go ahead and gang up on anyone that admits to buying any sort of name brand clothing, too.
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#54 Aug 30 2010 at 2:52 PM Rating: Decent
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I'll agree with what you said - spending more then you have too is wasteful - but there are other things to be considered then that straight fact when all things are considered.

I can't remember the exact specs - But it's a QuadCore i7 920? 2.88ghz (OCs nicely to 3ghz with no temp increase) - liquid cooling - typical AW case - 6GBDDR3 - 7200RPM HD - with a GeForce 460GTX - It cost 1,100$ and was purchased in December. I'll repost the exact specs if she'll let me touch it when I get home.

Personally - I didn't think it was that bad at the time. We were both aware we could build something for about the same/little less - but the bells and whistles won out.

edit: changed wording.

Edited, Aug 30th 2010 4:53pm by EmotionBlues

double edit: Case modding - the serious serious case mods out there - are really incredible. I'm not talented like that artistically - but it's pretty amazing. The AW we picked has clear plates on both sides and you can program/queue the color coding/alingment/timing of all the lights - in addition to the motorized display in the front with the multi (selectable) colored lights. That's what she REALLY wanted most about it (and the keyboard it came with - I'm slightly jealous of that but LED/light up keyboards are all over) and she probably changes the color pattern every other day.

Edited, Aug 30th 2010 4:56pm by EmotionBlues
#55 Aug 30 2010 at 2:54 PM Rating: Excellent
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An economic value is the worth of a goods or service as determined by the market.[1]

The economic value of a good or service has puzzled economists since the beginning of the discipline. First, economists tried to estimate the value of a good to an individual alone, and extend that definition to goods which can be exchanged. From this analysis came the concepts value in use and value in exchange.

Wealth maximization predicts that a person will choose to obtain the good or service in the place where it is cheapest, where the amount given up is the least.

Value is linked to price through the mechanism of exchange. When an economist observes an exchange, two important value functions are revealed: those of the buyer and seller. Just as the buyer reveals what he is willing to pay for a certain amount of a good, so too does the seller reveal what it costs him to give up the good.


If EB feels like he got a good deal for the computer he bought, then he got a perfectly viable economic solution. Because you don't value things the same way, Mik, doesn't mean his opinion is wrong. There are thousands of hugely successful luxury brands out there that don't sell a truly superior product, but are able to charge a premium for various intangibles associated with the name. In Alienware's case it is brand recognition and case customization/motorization that EB seems to care about. There hasn't been a single thread on this board about case modding, and there is little argument that case modding is more involved than the simple plug and play hardware installations that have caused so much concern on the board.

Let's go ahead and gang up on anyone that admits to buying any sort of name brand clothing, too.


I would call anyone out who spends 60 dollars for a t-shirt too (ed-hardy)
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#56 Aug 30 2010 at 3:01 PM Rating: Good
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I would call anyone out who spends 60 dollars for a t-shirt too (ed-hardy)


That son of a ***** makes more then T-shirts.

Regardless, in the spirit of the ZAM Community - rate ups for all!
#57 Aug 30 2010 at 4:28 PM Rating: Good
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EmotionBlues wrote:
I'll agree with what you said - spending more then you have too is wasteful - but there are other things to be considered then that straight fact when all things are considered.

I can't remember the exact specs - But it's a QuadCore i7 920? 2.88ghz (OCs nicely to 3ghz with no temp increase) - liquid cooling - typical AW case - 6GBDDR3 - 7200RPM HD - with a GeForce 460GTX - It cost 1,100$ and was purchased in December. I'll repost the exact specs if she'll let me touch it when I get home.

Personally - I didn't think it was that bad at the time. We were both aware we could build something for about the same/little less - but the bells and whistles won out.

edit: changed wording.

Edited, Aug 30th 2010 4:53pm by EmotionBlues

double edit: Case modding - the serious serious case mods out there - are really incredible. I'm not talented like that artistically - but it's pretty amazing. The AW we picked has clear plates on both sides and you can program/queue the color coding/alingment/timing of all the lights - in addition to the motorized display in the front with the multi (selectable) colored lights. That's what she REALLY wanted most about it (and the keyboard it came with - I'm slightly jealous of that but LED/light up keyboards are all over) and she probably changes the color pattern every other day.

Edited, Aug 30th 2010 4:56pm by EmotionBlues

How did you manage to buy a system with a pre-installed GTX 460 in December? The card just came out a month or two ago.

Edited, Aug 30th 2010 10:29pm by Fetter: Forgot the quote.

Edited, Aug 30th 2010 10:29pm by Fetter
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#58 Aug 30 2010 at 4:40 PM Rating: Good
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Fetter wrote:
EmotionBlues wrote:
I'll agree with what you said - spending more then you have too is wasteful - but there are other things to be considered then that straight fact when all things are considered.

I can't remember the exact specs - But it's a QuadCore i7 920? 2.88ghz (OCs nicely to 3ghz with no temp increase) - liquid cooling - typical AW case - 6GBDDR3 - 7200RPM HD - with a GeForce 460GTX - It cost 1,100$ and was purchased in December. I'll repost the exact specs if she'll let me touch it when I get home.

Personally - I didn't think it was that bad at the time. We were both aware we could build something for about the same/little less - but the bells and whistles won out.

edit: changed wording.

Edited, Aug 30th 2010 4:53pm by EmotionBlues

double edit: Case modding - the serious serious case mods out there - are really incredible. I'm not talented like that artistically - but it's pretty amazing. The AW we picked has clear plates on both sides and you can program/queue the color coding/alingment/timing of all the lights - in addition to the motorized display in the front with the multi (selectable) colored lights. That's what she REALLY wanted most about it (and the keyboard it came with - I'm slightly jealous of that but LED/light up keyboards are all over) and she probably changes the color pattern every other day.

Edited, Aug 30th 2010 4:56pm by EmotionBlues

How did you manage to buy a system with a pre-installed GTX 460 in December? The card just came out a month or two ago.

Edited, Aug 30th 2010 10:29pm by Fetter: Forgot the quote.

Edited, Aug 30th 2010 10:29pm by Fetter


I'm guessing he meant 465?
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#59 Aug 30 2010 at 4:41 PM Rating: Good
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The GTX 465 came out after the 480 and 470, which came out late March of this year (and was then pushed back a little bit iirc).

Edited, Aug 30th 2010 10:43pm by Fetter
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#60 Aug 30 2010 at 4:47 PM Rating: Good
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An economic value is the worth of a goods or service as determined by the market.[1]

The economic value of a good or service has puzzled economists since the beginning of the discipline. First, economists tried to estimate the value of a good to an individual alone, and extend that definition to goods which can be exchanged. From this analysis came the concepts value in use and value in exchange.

Wealth maximization predicts that a person will choose to obtain the good or service in the place where it is cheapest, where the amount given up is the least.

Value is linked to price through the mechanism of exchange. When an economist observes an exchange, two important value functions are revealed: those of the buyer and seller. Just as the buyer reveals what he is willing to pay for a certain amount of a good, so too does the seller reveal what it costs him to give up the good.


If EB feels like he got a good deal for the computer he bought, then he got a perfectly viable economic solution. Because you don't value things the same way, Mik, doesn't mean his opinion is wrong. There are thousands of hugely successful luxury brands out there that don't sell a truly superior product, but are able to charge a premium for various intangibles associated with the name. In Alienware's case it is brand recognition and case customization/motorization that EB seems to care about. There hasn't been a single thread on this board about case modding, and there is little argument that case modding is more involved than the simple plug and play hardware installations that have caused so much concern on the board.

Let's go ahead and gang up on anyone that admits to buying any sort of name brand clothing, too.


I would call anyone out who spends 60 dollars for a t-shirt too (ed-hardy)


Ditto. $60+ for a shirt and $200+ for a pair of shoes is wasteful. There's a mall near me that sells nothing but pants and their CLEARANCE rack is $50 -after- discounts. Most of their products are $200-300. Wasteful.

Luxury products are all wasteful. If you can get a comparable or better product elsewhere for less money then spending more money on the same product is always wasteful. Whether it's an Alienware computer or an Ed Hardy shirt or a Rolex Watch... It's one thing if you're paying more money for a better product, but brand recognition is -not- a better product. If anything, luxury brand designers like Gucci and Prada and Manolo are charging you way more than their product is worth for you to have the right to use a product with their name on it.

If you spend way more money on a luxury-branded product that does not have a significant improvement over the next best thing to validate the exorbitant price hike, you are being wasteful.
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#61 Aug 30 2010 at 4:50 PM Rating: Good
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EmotionBlues wrote:
I'll agree with what you said - spending more then you have too is wasteful - but there are other things to be considered then that straight fact when all things are considered.

I can't remember the exact specs - But it's a QuadCore i7 920? 2.88ghz (OCs nicely to 3ghz with no temp increase) - liquid cooling - typical AW case - 6GBDDR3 - 7200RPM HD - with a GeForce 460GTX - It cost 1,100$ and was purchased in December. I'll repost the exact specs if she'll let me touch it when I get home.

Personally - I didn't think it was that bad at the time. We were both aware we could build something for about the same/little less - but the bells and whistles won out.


Fair enough. Conversely, I never said that it was a bad computer, just that it's overpriced. So if we both agree that it's a good computer and it's overpriced, then I think we're straight. The only place we disagree is the concept of waste, and I'm content on agreeing to disagree if you are.
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#62 Aug 30 2010 at 5:00 PM Rating: Excellent
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Open the case up, unplug the power cord from the card, and pull it out of the slot? It's not remotely involved, you just have to know what one looks like. If you don't, try google.


Make sure you turn off your computer and unplug to powercord to the powersupply before you do anything else.
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#63 Aug 30 2010 at 5:02 PM Rating: Good
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bsphil wrote:
Open the case up, unplug the power cord from the card, and pull it out of the slot? It's not remotely involved, you just have to know what one looks like. If you don't, try google.


Make sure you turn off your computer and unplug to powercord to the powersupply before you do anything else.


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#64 Aug 30 2010 at 5:12 PM Rating: Excellent
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bsphil wrote:
Open the case up, unplug the power cord from the card, and pull it out of the slot? It's not remotely involved, you just have to know what one looks like. If you don't, try google.


Make sure you turn off your computer and unplug to powercord to the powersupply before you do anything else.


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#65 Aug 31 2010 at 2:41 PM Rating: Decent
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just cancelled my aleinware Pc after all the adivce last night and ordered this beast to build my self , hopefully i will have it built in time for release

Antec 902 Nine Hundred Two
Intel Core i7 950 (4 x 3.06GHz) 8 MB
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro - Silent
Corsair 6GB Dominator GT CAS7 (3x2GB) 1600MHz
Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 5850 VaporX - 2 GB - 2xDVI/HDMI/DP (Sapphire)
Asus P6X58D Premium (Intel X58)
Corsair 850W (CMPSU-850TXUK)
1 TB (1000 GB) SATA-III Western Digital (WD1002FAEX) - 64 MB - Caviar Black
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Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 5850 VaporX - 2 GB - 2xDVI/HDMI/DP (Sapphire)
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#66 Aug 31 2010 at 2:56 PM Rating: Good
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^ You're going to love it, although save the money on the 950, get a 930 and get yourself a better graphics card, just imho.
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#67 Aug 31 2010 at 3:14 PM Rating: Decent
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I think that's the first decent machine someone posted on here other than that prick who posted a 980x + 5970 and said "will this run ffxiv?". Lol, you guys remember that?

What did that cost you btw?

My core i7 machine with almost identical stats other than some different brands ran me 1130. I have a 930 though, can't beat an i7 for $199.

Edited, Aug 31st 2010 2:16pm by GuardianFaith
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#68 Aug 31 2010 at 5:47 PM Rating: Decent
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Freaking usb 3.0. I wish my pc had 3.0 when I built it.
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#69 Aug 31 2010 at 6:29 PM Rating: Good
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^ You're going to love it, although save the money on the 950, get a 930 and get yourself a better graphics card, just imho.


Prices on the 950 dropped to 299 on newegg, where the 930 is still 289. So unless He is getting it from microcenter, I would stay with the 950
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bsphil wrote:
Why do people keep buying computers and THEN asking if the build is going to be suitable for FFXIV?


More importantly why do people buy a good PC and then cripple it with a substandard graphics card?

bsphil wrote:
Open the case up, unplug the power cord from the card, and pull it out of the slot? It's not remotely involved, you just have to know what one looks like. If you don't, try google.


The latch on PCIE slots causes people a lot of trouble if they don't know how to remove the card.

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Sigh...why do folks continue to buy from Alienware?



Because it's what games "play best on"



Edited, Aug 31st 2010 9:39pm by Lobivopis
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I thought of it first:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20
#71 Aug 31 2010 at 6:55 PM Rating: Decent
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Antec 902 Nine Hundred Two
CPU Intel Core i7 950 (4 x 3.06GHz) 8 MB
CPU Heatsink Corsair Hydro Series H50 V2 (Advanced Liquid Cooling)

Memory Corsair 6GB (3x2GB) XMS3 1600MHz - Lifetime Warranty (DDR3)
Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 5850 VaporX - 2 GB - 2xDVI/HDMI/DP (Sapphire)
Motherboard Asus Rampage III Extreme ROG (Intel X58)
Sound Card Motherboard Integrated 7.1 Sound
Networking Motherboard Integrated Ethernet Lan (Broadband Ready)
USB Ports 6 x USB 2.0 Ports & 2 x USB 3.0 Ports
Firewire Ports 1 Port Firewire IEEE 1394 (Built In)
Power Supply Cooler Master 1000W Pro Modular - Silent
Case Wiring Professional Standard
Hard Drive #1 1 TB (1000 GB) SATA-II HDD UDMA 300 7200 32MB
Optical Drive #1 Samsung (S222A) DVD +/-RW 22x Dual Layer - Black (IDE)
Operating System #1 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64 BIT (Genuine DVD & COA Included)

This is coming out at £1242.00 with a full 4 year warrnaty ? im i going over kill now ?lol


Looking good. However I would say that a i7 930 (or 920) CPU would be fine. The 950 is a bit overkill.

Also I would leave out the water cooling and just select regular cooling, if that can save you a few £s.


I would replace the 950 with a 930, the liquid cooling with a nice air cooler (tower cooler with a metal backplate, no push-pin crap) and replace the factory OC 5850 with a 5970. Should come out to about the same price and be a better gaming system.

Edited, Aug 31st 2010 9:59pm by Lobivopis
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Adjust the resolution of menus.
The main screen resolution for "FINAL FANTASY XI" is dependent on the "Overlay Graphics Resolution" setting.
If the Overlay Graphics Resolution is set higher than the Menu Resolution, menus will be automatically resized.


I thought of it first:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20
#72 Aug 31 2010 at 7:08 PM Rating: Decent
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just cancelled my aleinware Pc after all the adivce last night and ordered this beast to build my self , hopefully i will have it built in time for release

Antec 902 Nine Hundred Two
Intel Core i7 950 (4 x 3.06GHz) 8 MB
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro - Silent
Corsair 6GB Dominator GT CAS7 (3x2GB) 1600MHz
Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 5850 VaporX - 2 GB - 2xDVI/HDMI/DP (Sapphire)
Asus P6X58D Premium (Intel X58)
Corsair 850W (CMPSU-850TXUK)
1 TB (1000 GB) SATA-III Western Digital (WD1002FAEX) - 64 MB - Caviar Black
Windows 7 64bit home edition


Word of warning.

Be very, very careful when inserting the CPU. Do not drop anything on the pins when you have the plastic safety cover removed from the socket. Touching it with anything can damage the pins. Read the instructions that come with the CPU a couple times before you do this to make sure you've got it.


EDIT: that cooler uses plastic push pins, I'd recommend something with a metal back plate.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103055&cm_re=v-8-_-35-103-055-_-Product

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233029&cm_re=xigmatek_dark_knight-_-35-233-029-_-Product

I've heard good things about the V8 and I have personal experience with the Dark Knight.





Edited, Aug 31st 2010 10:14pm by Lobivopis
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Adjust the resolution of menus.
The main screen resolution for "FINAL FANTASY XI" is dependent on the "Overlay Graphics Resolution" setting.
If the Overlay Graphics Resolution is set higher than the Menu Resolution, menus will be automatically resized.


I thought of it first:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20
#73 Sep 01 2010 at 12:52 PM Rating: Decent
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I think that's the first decent machine someone posted on here other than that prick who posted a 980x + 5970 and said "will this run ffxiv?". Lol, you guys remember that?


Thanks its the first rig ive built so i hope its good , and to the other people that keep saying buy this and i wouldnt of brought that , they is always something bigger and better and different in your minds but im sure this rig is going to be amazing !

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Antec 902 Nine Hundred Two
Intel Core i7 950 (4 x 3.06GHz) 8 MB
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro - Silent
Corsair 6GB Dominator GT CAS7 (3x2GB) 1600MHz
Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 5850 VaporX - 2 GB - 2xDVI/HDMI/DP (Sapphire)
Asus P6X58D Premium
Corsair 850W
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#74 Sep 01 2010 at 1:03 PM Rating: Default
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Dont be intimidated by the build. Inserting CPUs nowadays is pretty much like playing blocks when you were a toddler. Cant fit a square peg in a round hole so you just need to rotate it until it seats. Plus there are arrows that make it even more dummy proof. Go with arctic silver and follow the instructions from the website when placing the fan. You can youtube people claiming they know the best ways ever conceived to apply it. Follow the manufacturers instructions, its really simple. Everything else is like snapping together legos as well

Also, I dont know the OC capabilities of a 950 but even a 930 with a decent aftermarket cooler will clock to 3.6 without any problems at all. Thats the beauty of that mobo

Edited, Sep 1st 2010 3:09pm by KingRaul
#75 Sep 01 2010 at 5:54 PM Rating: Decent
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Follow the manufacturers instructions, its really simple.


Coolers that use direct touch heatpipes have tiny crevices between the pipes so if you just put a line down the center of the CPU's die it will fail to spread out across the entire CPU as it does with a cooler that has a perfectly smooth block.

With those I just stretch a plastic bag over my fingertip and spread a very thin layer over the CPU. Only the raised part that actually contacts the cooler and as thin as possible while still obscuring the metal.

And as I said previously avoid coolers that use plastic push pins. Metal bracket or GTFO.

Edited, Sep 1st 2010 8:57pm by Lobivopis
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Adjust the resolution of menus.
The main screen resolution for "FINAL FANTASY XI" is dependent on the "Overlay Graphics Resolution" setting.
If the Overlay Graphics Resolution is set higher than the Menu Resolution, menus will be automatically resized.


I thought of it first:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20
#76 Sep 01 2010 at 6:35 PM Rating: Good
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A dot or line in the center will spread out when the metal plate is pushed against the CPU and will fill the cracks.

PROTIP: Plastic bags potentially contain static electricity.
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#77 Sep 01 2010 at 11:27 PM Rating: Decent
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Oenos wrote:
A dot or line in the center will spread out when the metal plate is pushed against the CPU and will fill the cracks.

PROTIP: Plastic bags potentially contain static electricity.


you just stretch a piece of plastic over your finger and then tear the rest off. As long as you ground yourself before touching anything (which you should be doing anyway) you are fine.

Direct touch heatpipe coolers don't have a metal plate, the base is made up of several copper pipes flattened on one side and then ground down. What will happen is the heatsink compound will seep into the cracks and not spread out between the base of the cooler and the CPU properly.

Here's a picture of what I am talking about.

http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=2333

These types of coolers work great but you really need to spread the heatsink compound on the CPU first with them.



Edited, Sep 2nd 2010 2:31am by Lobivopis
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Final Fantasy XI 12-14-11 Update wrote:
Adjust the resolution of menus.
The main screen resolution for "FINAL FANTASY XI" is dependent on the "Overlay Graphics Resolution" setting.
If the Overlay Graphics Resolution is set higher than the Menu Resolution, menus will be automatically resized.


I thought of it first:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20
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