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#1 Aug 30 2010 at 8:06 PM Rating: Decent
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I was curious if everyone is having a super slow time updating the beta software? i just got the file off file-planet as many people advised, and now im downloading the updates and it cant seem to hold a steady connection at all. Between like 3 and 80 kb/s and says like 24hrs to update.

Was curious if its like this for everyone or if im doing something wrong, my internet is definitely not that slow so idk what the deal is.
#2 Aug 30 2010 at 8:17 PM Rating: Decent
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It is like that for a lot of people. If you want to speed up your download you should use utorrent.
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#3 Aug 30 2010 at 8:29 PM Rating: Decent
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FaithseekerOishii wrote:
It is like that for a lot of people. If you want to speed up your download you should use utorrent.


The more peope who waste time with torrents, the laggier the download gets. More peopel on teh download, faster it gets.
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#4 Aug 30 2010 at 8:34 PM Rating: Decent
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The more peope who waste time with torrents, the laggier the download gets. More peopel on teh download, faster it gets.
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#5 Aug 30 2010 at 8:37 PM Rating: Good
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Seemed easy enough for me to understand. If people would stop using the torrent, open their ports, and use the actual SE downloader, the SE downloader would speed up because more people would be on the network to gather the data from.
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#6 Aug 30 2010 at 8:41 PM Rating: Good
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Puppy1 wrote:
FaithseekerOishii wrote:
It is like that for a lot of people. If you want to speed up your download you should use utorrent.


The more peope who waste time with torrents, the laggier the download gets. More peopel on teh download, faster it gets.


This.

I have been downloading for about 13hrs so far. 42.8% complete with 15+ hrs to go. I have 0 remote connections and 59 local connections. Uploading at 30kps - 80kps and downloading at ~35kps.
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#7 Aug 30 2010 at 8:42 PM Rating: Good
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I can deal with the slow downloader but my biggest beef is it's slowing down my connection as if it's downloading at full speed and can't be bothered to spare bandwidth for anything else. I'm sitting here with 20kbps download speeds and my internet is down to a crawl, takes at least a minute for a simple forum page to pop up.
#8 Aug 30 2010 at 8:47 PM Rating: Decent
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Open ports, open ports, open ports. Seriously my download took me about 3 hours max - pretty fast for a client update. Make sure when you're opening ports you check your IP address and make sure you match it in the router port settings - mine was wrong initially but i opened up "cmd" command window and figured out my IP and everything worked wonders.
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#9 Aug 30 2010 at 8:55 PM Rating: Good
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Open ports, open ports, open ports. Seriously my download took me about 3 hours max - pretty fast for a client update. Make sure when you're opening ports you check your IP address and make sure you match it in the router port settings - mine was wrong initially but i opened up "cmd" command window and figured out my IP and everything worked wonders.


I assure you my ports are open and I'm still getting horrible speeds.
#10 Aug 30 2010 at 8:57 PM Rating: Good
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SolidMack wrote:
Open ports, open ports, open ports. Seriously my download took me about 3 hours max - pretty fast for a client update. Make sure when you're opening ports you check your IP address and make sure you match it in the router port settings - mine was wrong initially but i opened up "cmd" command window and figured out my IP and everything worked wonders.


Done that. For some reason, it does nothing.
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#11 Aug 30 2010 at 9:00 PM Rating: Decent
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There is a reason people are even suggesting using utorrent. Your choice if you want to stick with the inferior torrent.
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#12 Aug 30 2010 at 9:02 PM Rating: Good
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Seemed easy enough for me to understand. If people would stop using the torrent, open their ports, and use the actual SE downloader, the SE downloader would speed up because more people would be on the network to gather the data from.

Gwah? It's the same torrent. Utorrent is just a better client that doesn't drop your entire download as soon as anyone connects or disconnects from you.
#13 Aug 30 2010 at 9:07 PM Rating: Good
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FaithseekerOishii wrote:
There is a reason people are even suggesting using utorrent. Your choice if you want to stick with the inferior torrent.


I mean I open all the ports in my router but for some reason, it does nothing. The port checker tool from PortForward reports that the ports are closed. Its kind of weird. I have made sure that the IP address of the computer is correct in the router.
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#14 Aug 30 2010 at 9:16 PM Rating: Good
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markdunn1989 wrote:

Was curious if its like this for everyone or if im doing something wrong, my internet is definitely not that slow so idk what the deal is.


Its not you, that i can almost guarantee. Depends on location, # of connections.. Mine takes a while as well and im preety good with computers :)
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#15 Aug 30 2010 at 9:47 PM Rating: Good
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Getting 270kb/s download rate right now, about 1/4 into the download. Took awhile to get to that speed though...
#16 Aug 30 2010 at 9:53 PM Rating: Decent
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I just stayed on the SE downloader and soon enough I went from 80kb/s to 400-600kb/s. Total patch time of around 2 hours. I mean, open beta doesn't start for over 12 hours. No real rush to get the client downloaded so fast. Start the download and, then, go watch a movie or something.
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#17 Aug 30 2010 at 9:54 PM Rating: Decent
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Curious why I have never had a problem with this. I had over 50 remote connections pulling 450kb/sec. Download went relatively quickly...never touched a port.
#18 Aug 30 2010 at 9:58 PM Rating: Decent
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I get p to 9 local connections and I never see any remote connections (always at 0)



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Mine starts really slow like that, then gets going good...at the end it always lowers to a crawl...I started watching once in a while during the last 5% and it was painful...
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Got a question, might as well ask it here: For those who were already in previous beta phases, i'm wondering if you guys got your open beta key yet? should we be expecting them soon, tonight maybe? any news on those? I know people have been saying we get them emailed to our inbox on the SE members websites, I've been checking it consistently with nothing so far.
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#21 Aug 30 2010 at 10:16 PM Rating: Good
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Got a question, might as well ask it here: For those who were already in previous beta phases, i'm wondering if you guys got your open beta key yet? should we be expecting them soon, tonight maybe? any news on those? I know people have been saying we get them emailed to our inbox on the SE members websites, I've been checking it consistently with nothing so far.


Now that you mention it, I haven't got mine yet... Anyone else?
#22 Aug 30 2010 at 10:21 PM Rating: Good
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mine was done within an hour
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My two downloads were finished within 2 hours each (did them separately).. I've never bothered forwarding any ports, but I do make sure to always have UPnP enabled, because it's supposed to handle things like this, and seems to do so quite efficiently
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#24 Aug 30 2010 at 10:34 PM Rating: Excellent
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Hi all ^-^! I'm preparing to join y'all in the public beta and I noticed many people were having the same issues with slow download speeds. I hope this might help ^-^!

I had 0 remote connections and a capped 60 local connections with a reported download speed of about 150-250 kb/s but it was taking forever and listed the remaining time at 26+ hours. After doing the following I now have 52 remote connections, 8 local connections and download speeds between 50-300 kb/s with a remaining download time of just under 3 hours and it is downloading consistently.

I hope this helps! ^-^

IF YOU ARE CONNECTING DIRECTLY TO YOUR MODEM THEN THIS DOES NOT APPLY.
Make sure you're firewall is off! If you continue to experience issues you may want to contact your ISP tech support.

BEFORE YOU BEGIN
- disable your firewall.
If you have security software which includes a firewall, disable it through the softwares control panel. Windows also has a built in firewall which can be disabled from the Control Panel under "Windows Firewall".

1. Get your router information (mine is D-Link DIR-825)

- You will need your routers username and password which you can find here: http://www.routerpasswords.com/

- You will need your routers IP address (default gateway), your pc's current ip address, and your MAC address.

If you don't know what any of these are then do the following - if not skip to step 2:
a) go to the start menu
b) click programs (it may say "all programs")
c) click "accessories"
d) click "command prompt"
e) type "ipconfig /all" without the quotes and press "Enter" (it may say "Return")
f) find something along the lines of "ethernet adapter local area connection" or "ethernet adapter wireless lan connection" depending on if you are hardwired or wireless - it may not say exactly this but something similar
g) beneath the proper heading find "Default Gateway"
h) if it says something like "192.168.x.x" with anything for "x" - copy down this number.
i) find "ip address" (it may say "ip V4 address" on some machines) - copy down this number.
j) find "physical address" - copy down this number.

2. Type the "Default Gateway" into your preferred web browser as a web address (e.g. http://192.168.x.x) and press "Enter" or "Return" on your keyboard

3. Navigate to "DHCP Reservation" or "Static IP"

This may be called something different depending on your router. In this step we are attempting to tell your router to assign the same IP address to your computer every time you connect to it.

In my D-Link its under "Setup" (along the top) and then "Network Settings" along the left then at the bottom there is a section labeled "DHCP Reservation list"

a) Enable the feature if necessary
b) Enter a name for the assignment if necessary
c) Enter the static IP you want your PC to have (this should be the IP v4 address from ipconfig /all)
d) Enter your PC's MAC Address (this should be the "physical address" from ipconfig /all)
e) click save in necessary

4. Navigate to "Port Forwarding"

This site can help you for your router: http://portforward.com/

In my D-Link it was under "Advanced" (along the top) and then "Port Forwarding" (on the left)

a) name the new port forwarding rule if necessary
b) Enter your now statically assigned IP V4 Address
c) Enter the UDP ports you want to forward (should look like this without the quotes "55296-55551"
d) Enter the TCP ports you want to forward (should look like this without the quotes "55296-55551"
e) save if necessary

To review forwarded ports:
Forward UDP ports 55296-55551
Forward TCP ports 55296-55551

5. Enable UPnP

In my D-Link it was under "Advanced" (on the top) then "Advanced Network" on the left and then you check the box which says "Enable UPnP" and save settings.

6. reboot your router after saving all settings

7. reboot your computer after rebooting your router

8. (Vista and 7 only) find the "Final Fantasy XIV Beta Version" executable and right-click it > choose "Run as Administrator" (Windows XP will not see this option)

9. Hakuna Matata

This site also provides detailed steps to find port forwarding and set it up for many devices: http://portforward.com/

This was my original source: HERE

Edited, Aug 31st 2010 1:15pm by Zannabell

Edited, Aug 31st 2010 3:56pm by Zannabell
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#25 Aug 30 2010 at 10:35 PM Rating: Decent
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Mine's coming up on around three hours now... at 90%. I'm capped out at 60 total connections (10-15 local, 45-50 remote) and my download Kb/s has been all over the place. I don't use uTorrent anymore out of respect to SE, but their system sucks. With the small patches through the Beta, it's been fine, but large client downloads take forever... I'm not knowledgeable in terms of exactly how torrenting should work, but based on my experiences with torrent clients, isn't capping people off at 60 connections causing a downloading bottleneck? Wouldn't they be better served getting more people downloaded faster?

Anyways, I've got movies to watch... but still.
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Mine's coming up on around three hours now... at 90%. I'm capped out at 60 total connections (10-15 local, 45-50 remote) and my download Kb/s has been all over the place. I don't use uTorrent anymore out of respect to SE, but their system sucks. With the small patches through the Beta, it's been fine, but large client downloads take forever... I'm not knowledgeable in terms of exactly how torrenting should work, but based on my experiences with torrent clients, isn't capping people off at 60 connections causing a downloading bottleneck? Wouldn't they be better served getting more people downloaded faster?

Anyways, I've got movies to watch... but still.


Well they'd be better served by allowing people to become seeds after they're done downloading. As it stands right now, once the download is complete and installed, it's deleted and never heard from again. This means the only true seeds are SE's own servers, and shockingly they can't quite handle the demand being put on them (imagine what sept 30 will look like). That really is the only advantage uTorrent has over SE's own program (well that and generally being better in every measurable way). It needs work, no doubt about it.. maybe it'll get improved, maybe not. Right now I'd rather they focus on making the game better instead of tinkering with their downloader. That's something that can come later
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#27 Aug 30 2010 at 10:42 PM Rating: Decent
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mine was @ 200kb/s for a good few minutes.. now back to <9kb/s .. haha
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#28 Aug 31 2010 at 12:24 AM Rating: Good
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I decided to update it just now and it took less than an hour with firewall on and no port forwarding.
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#29 Aug 31 2010 at 12:28 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm currently uploading at 100Kb/s and Downloading 0Kb/s (-_-lll
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#30 Aug 31 2010 at 1:28 AM Rating: Good
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Physically moved my computer from one room in the house to the one with the modem and bypassed the router.

Time Remaining: ~1hr
Percentage Complete: 83.2%
Upload Speed: ~80Kb/s
Download Speed: ~150Kb/s - 300Kb/s
Remote Connections: 57
Local Connections: 3

Much better methinks.
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#31 Aug 31 2010 at 12:45 PM Rating: Good
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And not being that savvy about port forwarding, what do you do when you add the new rules and then get an entire page of conflicts? I certainly don't want to delete about 20 or so conflicts and then have headaches with other programs working. I know several of them mention Skype.
#32 Aug 31 2010 at 1:15 PM Rating: Good
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mine was done within an hour


Yeah, same here. The slowest my connection ever got, after the starting stumble, was about 350kBps.

Edited, Aug 31st 2010 3:20pm by PLDXavier
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#33 Aug 31 2010 at 1:21 PM Rating: Decent
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And not being that savvy about port forwarding, what do you do when you add the new rules and then get an entire page of conflicts? I certainly don't want to delete about 20 or so conflicts and then have headaches with other programs working. I know several of them mention Skype.


To make a long story short: Forwarding ports to your computer will not conflict with any software on your computer.

The long story:
You can forward every existing port to your computer and you shouldn't experience any problems on your computer. All you're doing is telling the router to forward incoming traffic directly to your computer instead of stopping at the router.

Forwarding these ports may have unseen repercussion on other computers on the network. Other computers on the network may experience errors if software is installed which requires access to those ports. In 99% of home network cases this will not be an issue because these ports are all usually blocked by the router (which is why we need to forward the ports).

If there is already a port forwarding rule for another computer on the network which conflicts with the new rule then you will need to remove the conflicting rule. This will also disable whatever functionality the old rule was originally placed there for.

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#34 Aug 31 2010 at 1:35 PM Rating: Good
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Totally love uploading at 100 Kb/s and downloading at 5 Kb/s. Something doesn't seem fair lol.
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Well, it was pretty slow through my router, did all the port forwarding and nothing changed. Now I'm connected straight into my modem and its not downloading at all now ... *sigh*
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#36 Aug 31 2010 at 2:00 PM Rating: Decent
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I feel your pain, icemage. :( I'm still at 0b/s download and I've seen up to 100kB/s uploading. :( Plus, I'm using my school's network, so I can't really forward ports. :<

EDIT: I made it to 3kB/s!

Edited, Aug 31st 2010 4:01pm by Nuilvian
#37 Sep 01 2010 at 9:53 PM Rating: Good
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Server IP address cannot be router's LAN IP address.

What the eff does this mean? This is the message I get when trying to forward the ports and I enter my internal IP address. Is it because I'm running wireless? Is it because the world is against me? Thanks for any help.
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