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#1 Aug 31 2010 at 6:34 AM Rating: Good
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FINAL FANTASY XIV Open Beta Test Postponed

FINAL FANTASY XIV Open Beta Test, which is scheduled to begin at 19:00 (PDT) on Aug. 31, 2010, will be postponed due to a confirmation of critical bugs. New schedule will be released at a later date.

Along with the postponement of FINAL FANTASY XIV Open Beta Test, the issuing of registration code for FINAL FANTASY XIV Open Beta Test will be postponed as well. With the download of client software's installer, it will be suspended at 19:00 (PDT) on Aug. 31, 2010.

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Blaaam .... headshot...

Dang grrr.. all kind of agrevations... #%#¤"#"%&
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#3 Aug 31 2010 at 6:37 AM Rating: Decent
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Yay! Japanese tester's site says the same thing. Now if that's not a good start, what is, hahaha?!
#4 Aug 31 2010 at 6:38 AM Rating: Decent
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And so does the european... *SIGH*
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Guess SE wants to deal the finishing blow to the "hardcores" who took a day off just to be the first at launch ^.^/
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I wonder if heads are rolling... Someone must be screaming and shouting at the SE HQ right now... I don't think this was a light decision to make.
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Well it's 9:45 pm there, so I'm assuming someone isn't going to sleep much tonight.
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Meh. I can't say I'm not surprised. But I would rather them fix the issues they are having instead of rushing the Open Beta. It is also possible that the Square Enix Account Management could be a little problematic too. I guess all those who were invited for Beta Phase 3, their FFXIV Beta services have been canceled on the account management site. I guess we have to enter at the one address and pray we get in perhaps. Unless they mail us a code.

Regardless, I can wait a few days or until the weekend. Not a big deal for me. Does suck for those who planned the night/early morning European to play the game :/ Sorry guys. At least with bugs fixed we should have a pleasant, almost bug free environment to play with :) I am sure more information will be released.

Also, confirmed all Phase 3 Beta accounts are canceled as of this moment. Cannot log into the Beta site at all :/

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#9 Aug 31 2010 at 6:45 AM Rating: Good
I had just recieved an email saying my new motherboard shipment had been delayed right before that announcement. Smiley: lol
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Guess what? Tanaka just walked his character into the Retainer Ward for the first time today - and immediately ordered to halt the open beta.

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At least with bugs fixed we should have a pleasant, almost bug free environment to play with :)

Time to stop taking those pills, dude ^.^/

Edited, Aug 31st 2010 8:47am by Rinsui
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This makes me worry about the actual release date now more then ever.

I will be a very sad panda if actual release is in October or later. Smiley: disappointed
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Wow, well that sucks, would love to be a fly on the wall at SE though..
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Well look at it like this, instead of a a huge clog that is almost inevitable when everyone attacks SE servers to register their account, everyone can have an fully updated client ready to go. It may not eliminate total server clog but most to all of the open betas I have participated in it help break up some of the clog to at least have everything done but to get registration done.
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This makes me worry about the actual release date now more then ever.

I will be a very sad panda if actual release is in October or later.


dont jinks it dude -__-
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SE is such a tease...

But I agree better to let them work and have that retail version ready for the 22th.

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I don't really get the big deal. It's a beta. They're squashing bugs. So what?

Why does everyone feel that they're entitled to something more then the release date? I may be missing something here but how could anyone possibly be ****** off at something like this?
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I'm not sure that anyone is '****** off'..more worried I think, but hey, lets just go with it, nothing else we can do!
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Examples, please??? -3-

Meh, either way, I'd be glad to see the entire game delayed, not just the OB. It obviously still needs work (not to mention better promotion), so I'm all for postponing to help make the game better. Shoot me if you want; I'd rather not struggle through an underdeveloped game.
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I don't really get the big deal. It's a beta. They're squashing bugs. So what?

Why does everyone feel that they're entitled to something more then the release date? I may be missing something here but how could anyone possibly be ****** off at something like this?


I don't think anyone are ****** off put this is certainly dissapointing for people who wan't to try the game. I for one was not in closed beta and was really looking forwards to trying out the game. I understand that this is the time for SE to find all the bugs and this certainly comes before my urge to try the game early. That being said I am still extremely disappointed.
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With the download of client software's installer, it will be suspended at 19:00 (PDT) on Aug. 31, 2010.

We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.


Question: Does this mean that the updating will stop at a certain point or is it only the download of the initial installation file that will be stopped? So If I have already downloaded it and am just working on the updating I will still be able to continue doing this?
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Examples, please???

I don't think anyone has examples. That "confirmation of critical bugs" line comes directly from SE.
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Hopefully this delay will fix the critical bug where ffxivboot.exe crashes whenever I try to run it, haha. I'm fairly sure my computer can at least boot the game (Win7 64-bit, Core i3, 4GB DDR3, and Mobility Radeon HD 5650) so I dunno why Windows has to find a solution to the issue whenever I try to run it
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Question: Does this mean that the updating will stop at a certain point or is it only the download of the initial installation file that will be stopped? So If I have already downloaded it and am just working on the updating I will still be able to continue doing this?


They can't it is torrented. They can only really remove the installer from their website.

Also I hope this fixes the critical bug where I gain less experience as I play as one class.

Edited, Aug 31st 2010 9:14am by deathly809
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I was in since closed beta started. Never had to enter a key as SE enabled my account for me. Now I can't access the beta site either. Can only speculate whether the problem is with account management or the game itself.

Edit: This is what I am referring to:

Dear members,

We are shifting to new internal systems and services that require all of our customers to properly identify their current residence in order to access our new products and services.

One consequence of this is that members residing outside of the supported territory (United States and Canada) will not be able to access their existing North America SQUARE ENIX MEMBERS accounts, including MEMBERS Points, after August 31, 2010, 2 a.m. PDT. New accounts may be available in your proper territory. We apologize for any inconvenience.

Edited, Aug 31st 2010 9:18am by Geffe
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Yep I can't log in using my User Name and Password either, I activated my account using my key. So what does this mean?
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Hopefully this delay will fix the critical bug where ffxivboot.exe crashes whenever I try to run it, haha. I'm fairly sure my computer can at least boot the game (Win7 64-bit, Core i3, 4GB DDR3, and Mobility Radeon HD 5650) so I dunno why Windows has to find a solution to the issue whenever I try to run it


Are you running it in Windows XP Serv Pk 3 compat mode and as admin???
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#27 Aug 31 2010 at 7:23 AM Rating: Good
Pure speculation, but I can only think of two specific things off the top of my head to cause this delay.

1) Problem with the account management site. If they discovered that keys wouldn't be distributed as they planned, they would likely delay the whole shebang until it was sorted out.

2) That virus warning that Wint got yesterday, which I would probably classify as critical if I were SE. Having your beta diagnosed as a virus could spell the end of any positive reputation the game might have had (you know how people panic when they read the word "virus").
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Well, this gives me a lot more time to install my new hard drive and get everything setup, I was going to be a bit pressed if it was going to start tonight at 7pm.
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Are you running it in Windows XP Serv Pk 3 compat mode and as admin???


Tried that, unplugging my second monitor, and a few other things, came up with nothing
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Well hopefully its postponed only a day or so. I guess it makes my night easier have a date coming over now I can focus on her without having the whole "I wonder whats going on in game" thoughts in the back of my mind. Plus I have to work Wednesday all day/night until Thursday morning so hopefully fixed by the weekend.
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I don't see that message with the aforementioned link.

I'm thinking they just changed the default message back?
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I don't see that message with the aforementioned link.

I'm thinking they just changed the default message back?



I just did a full refresh and it's still there.
#33 Aug 31 2010 at 7:41 AM Rating: Decent
I won't be getting all my comp parts for a couple of days anyway, but I'm sorry to those of you that would have been playing today.Smiley: glare
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#34 Aug 31 2010 at 7:42 AM Rating: Good
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I wonder if heads are rolling... Someone must be screaming and shouting at the SE HQ right now... I don't think this was a light decision to make.


It's probably better to get it right than to start OB in a screwed up state and have that be the lasting impression of their potential customers headed into release.

You would think though that before they closed down P3 and moved towards OB, they'd have established a more or less solid client and server.

I'd say more about S-E but I'm not really trying to be mean. I think they probably made the right decision to postpone OB, it's just every other decision they've made leading up to this moment that's suspect.
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I just did a full refresh and it's still there.


Hmm, that was odd. Even though I clicked on the link, I guess I needed to refresh too. Smiley: lol
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PLDXavier, Defender of Justice wrote:
2) That virus warning that Wint got yesterday, which I would probably classify as critical if I were SE. Having your beta diagnosed as a virus could spell the end of any positive reputation the game might have had (you know how people panic when they read the word "virus").


I hadn't thought of that. If that's it, sorry guys Smiley: blush
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That virus warning that Wint got yesterday, which I would probably classify as critical if I were SE. Having your beta diagnosed as a virus could spell the end of any positive reputation the game might have had (you know how people panic when they read the word "virus").


I would not be surprised if this was it. Some people might have their anti-virus on auto-remove which would not look good for Square-Enix when the AV software keeps deleting required game files.
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Well on the bright side, my new computer isn't going to be here until tomorrow anyways. *sigh*
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I don't understand the hate for SE delaying the Open Beta. I understand that people want to play it, but the entire beta process is for Square Enix's benefit, not the players. It's a mechanism they use to test their product, probably because it's nearly impossible to QA a MMORPG without actually giving it to users.

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The thing that winds me up is the fact that, one day I wake up to find I won a Beta key, it in turn, takes 2 days to download, by which time they close Phase 3 of the Beta and tell us to wait until Open Beta...now that's delayed (which is fine), but I can't help but feel like Bambi after his mum got shot by 'Fiddie Cent'...it's been a while since I saw Bambi, but I'm pretty sure that's how it ends..
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As posted above to another person saying the same thing:

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I don't think anyone are ****** off put this is certainly dissapointing for people who wan't to try the game. I for one was not in closed beta and was really looking forwards to trying out the game. I understand that this is the time for SE to find all the bugs and this certainly comes before my urge to try the game early. That being said I am still extremely disappointed.


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I don't understand the hate for SE delaying the Open Beta. I understand that people want to play it, but the entire beta process is for Square Enix's benefit, not the players. It's a mechanism they use to test their product, probably because it's nearly impossible to QA a MMORPG without actually giving it to users.

Remember, you haven't paid a dime to Square Enix for FFXIV, they don't owe you anything.


+1. It's frustrating, but that IS the purpose of a Beta. I just look at it as if they didn't delay the OB, it would be unplayable due to these "critical bugs" and I wouldn't be playing it anyhow. At least now I can read a book or something instead of beating my head on the desk over a broken Beta.
#43 Aug 31 2010 at 8:24 AM Rating: Excellent
Majorio wrote:
I don't understand the hate for SE delaying the Open Beta. I understand that people want to play it, but the entire beta process is for Square Enix's benefit, not the players. It's a mechanism they use to test their product, probably because it's nearly impossible to QA a MMORPG without actually giving it to users.

Remember, you haven't paid a dime to Square Enix for FFXIV, they don't owe you anything.


Are you trolling? I don't see very much hate here at all, just some people who are a little disappointed.

As far as acting like S-E is doing us a huge favor, eh, not really. They're getting free labor to test the game and testers are getting a free preview. It's a pretty even trade, or else one side or the other wouldn't do it. Now that doesn't mean it's okay to be jerked around. No matter how positive a relationship is otherwise, when some one wastes your time a lot, eventually you're going to get tired of it. S-E has an established history of giving little regard to the customer, so maybe some people are already at the point where they see every inconvenience as further proof of S-E negligence, or maybe it just makes them feel better to complain.

In any case, it's not a big deal, but it's not really positive news, so you can't expect people to react with joy.

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+1. It's frustrating, but that IS the purpose of a Beta. I just look at it as if they didn't delay the OB, it would be unplayable due to these "critical bugs" and I wouldn't be playing it anyhow. At least now I can read a book or something instead of beating my head on the desk over a broken Beta.


Well the problem might be in the login part, say when you try log in it randomly writes over other peoples data, therefore they would not want people to try to log. Or it could be a client side problem where it causes damage to hardware. Or as said above gets flagged as a virus which would not be good for PR.
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whew....so glad to hear this...sorry guys :)
my new comp won't be here till the 2nd so i was gonna get left behind

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so, when the open beta does start i am gonna be ready to roll :)
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While it's disappointing (especially to those of us who were never selected for any of the phases), this final stage of the beta is meant to be 99.999% of what retail will be, and when it's opened up for presumably many more people to see, any issues need to be resolved first otherwise it's pretty bad press (now that NDAs are up). We of course have no idea what these "critical issues" are, could even be some new bug that got introduced after the changes from phase 3 were implemented. *shrug*

Hopefully they get the issues squashed soon so things can move forward. I'd say it'd be good to have as many eyes in the open beta as possible, but by this point in the process, feedback is pretty much irrelevant and it's essentially a preview for us while they keep tabs on things from the server side (load testing, etc.).
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I guess I'm playing civilization tonight

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Oh well this sucks. It's beta though, can't really be angry about it.
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#49 Aug 31 2010 at 9:12 AM Rating: Good
yeah the last patch of the beta updater ffed my computer up in a bad way. The freeze was so bad that I couldn't even bring up task manager
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Yeah, the beta test site is fubar now. It seems that someone goofed, or they were in the middle of transferring everything and stumbled on a major security issue.
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I just look at it as if they didn't delay the OB, it would be unplayable due to these "critical bugs"


I still maintain that if they'd done their job in the alpha and B1, [not to mention the last 6 years of development] they wouldn't HAVE these problems.

Don't take that statement over-critically though. SE is probably par for the course with that one ;)


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It might be a tumor. . .

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