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#52 Sep 08 2010 at 9:57 AM Rating: Good
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SSD are good for performance but don't hold much data, if you are looking in getting SSD I would suggest just getting a smaller one for the OS and a few high demand programs and a HHD for the rest of your downloaded files.

Also you don't need a sound card because most modern motherboards have decent audio integrated.

Though looking at the cost of that, I got my computer for a lot less and its close to your computer and I only payed $1000
#53 Sep 08 2010 at 9:58 AM Rating: Decent
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Got to the BIOS, now stuck at " Boot up disk CD/DVD. . . " my keyboard lights up when i plug it in yet i cannot use it, and my mouse seems to have no function, i put the CD that came with my motherboard in the machine yet still nothing.. stuck on this .. thanks

Edited, Sep 8th 2010 12:46pm by Micktron05
#54 Sep 08 2010 at 11:18 AM Rating: Good
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That sounds like the BIOS boot screen, not windows...

Have you installed Windows yet?

If yes, then check the boot settings on your motherboard's bios settings, set the hard disk you installed Windows on to default loading device.

If no, insert your Windows DVD into your optical drive. Disk that came with the motherboard goes in after you get Windows up and running.
#55 Sep 08 2010 at 12:14 PM Rating: Decent
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Got past the BIOS part,installed windows and graphic drivers, put the Mobo CD in to install the drivers and it wont run, it says "the aplication was unable to start correctly (0xc0000006) ... no idea

Edited, Sep 8th 2010 4:01pm by Micktron05
#56 Sep 08 2010 at 2:31 PM Rating: Good
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If you have the computer setup with internet access, throw out the disk and download the updated drivers from the manufacturer's website. Usually those driver CD's are as up to date as AOL free trial CDs...

Else, try running the applications in Administrator mode.

Copy the installation folder over to your hard drive (desktop, my documents, anywhere as long as you can find it.), find the file that does the installing (usually the setup.exe) and right click on the file. If you haven't disabled the UAC already, screen should go dark, and ask you to continue. Click yes, and the installation should continue normally. The reason you're copying the installation folder into your actual machine is that 'I' personally have issues running things in administrator mode when running programs on a network drive. I'm just removing the chance that it will cause an issue from the equation.

Direct X(Microsoft has updated it since SE added it to the FFXIV installation kit)
Your Motherboard
Graphics Card Driver


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#57 Sep 09 2010 at 11:25 AM Rating: Decent
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Thanks! It works now yet i think my SSD is plugged in the wrong spot. now my comp keeps crashing with a blue screen saying my hard drive isnt installed "crash dump"...( cant see the blue screen for more than 4 seconds then it restarts) I am not sure if my hard drive is actually plug into the right slot on the Mobo, do you now which slot it should be under ( usually labeled eSATA or gSATA or SATA ) I only have one 128 GB Solid state drive... unless its just not installed properly on my comp.... pretty confusing.. any thoughts ?
#58 Sep 09 2010 at 12:00 PM Rating: Excellent
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I am guessing it's a SATA 2 connection, find out in your MOBO manual where to plug in SATA 2's. Once your BIOS recognizes the drive, set it's configuration to AHCI

Once your drive is hooked up, you have to install an OS.

Edited, Sep 9th 2010 2:01pm by Oenos
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#59 Sep 09 2010 at 12:03 PM Rating: Decent
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k thanks, i already have windows 7 installed, will i have to reinstall it?
#60 Sep 09 2010 at 12:05 PM Rating: Excellent
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Oh OK, so your drive was installed, but just may not be compatible with the place you installed it then.
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#61 Sep 09 2010 at 12:07 PM Rating: Decent
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yeaaaah ...
#62 Sep 09 2010 at 12:08 PM Rating: Decent
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oh and got a benchmark of 6,400 btw :) this blue screen is ****** me off tho .. wanna play the beta so bad
#63 Sep 09 2010 at 12:59 PM Rating: Decent
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so i switched the SSD into the SATA 2 slot and now my computer cannot start windows ( guessing because its already installed ?) kinda stuck at this point,i changed my SATA in bios to AHCI as well... i tried to do a "recovery" and i dont think that worked because it took me to a blue screen stating that there is new hardware and i need to uninstall everything, but its not recommending i start windows, and i obv dont want to damage anything, so should i start windows anyway and try to uninstall it? im pretty confused and nervous to mess with it...... why cant it just recognize where it is and load the OS? frustrating fosho

Edited, Sep 9th 2010 3:07pm by Micktron05

Edited, Sep 9th 2010 3:34pm by Micktron05
#64 Sep 09 2010 at 1:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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I would reinstall windows
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#65 Sep 09 2010 at 1:35 PM Rating: Decent
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so should i put the SSD back in the wrong port to start it up or force windows to start?
#66 Sep 09 2010 at 1:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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Try putting the CD back in and doing a reinstall. I don't understand why it's not recognizing windows off of your drive. Did you select that drive in the Boot order?
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#67 Sep 09 2010 at 1:42 PM Rating: Decent
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it seems like it recognizes it but its saying it doesnt recommend running because of the change in the system ... will it get damaged if i run it anyway? cuz thats any option : either start windows normally or do a recovery ...
#68 Sep 09 2010 at 1:51 PM Rating: Excellent
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I would think you would be okay running Windows normally, you just changed the location of the drive... where was it connected before you installed Windows? If you keep getting that error message, I would reformat and reinstall Windows. Since you installed Windows before turning AHCI on, you may not have TRIM enabled, which you want ON for your SSD. Google AHCI SSD and TRIM.
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#69 Sep 09 2010 at 1:53 PM Rating: Decent
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Ahhh that makes sense cuz the kingston ssd CD was saying ist not compatible with windows 7 when i put it in ( TRIM wasnt operating i guess ) alright ill try it out right now. thanks so much man
#70 Sep 09 2010 at 1:53 PM Rating: Decent
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oh and my SSD was in a GSATA slot i think .. stupid i know
#71 Sep 09 2010 at 1:56 PM Rating: Decent
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Dam windows wont start, just restarts itself after the logo .. ****
#72 Sep 09 2010 at 1:59 PM Rating: Excellent
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Try reinstalling from the CD.
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#73 Sep 09 2010 at 2:00 PM Rating: Decent
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I put the CD in but how can i reinstall from post?
#74 Sep 09 2010 at 2:01 PM Rating: Excellent
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Force the boot order to boot from CD first in BIOS.
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#75 Sep 09 2010 at 2:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Tried but failed:" windows has encountered a problem communicating with a device connected to your comp..." Staus :0xc00000e9


dammit.... lol
#76 Sep 09 2010 at 2:12 PM Rating: Decent
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Does it matter which SATA2 slot its plugged into? there are a few but i have the cd and dvd rom as well as the SSD in the SATA2 slots but in random order
#77 Sep 09 2010 at 2:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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SSD 0, DVD 1.

I wish I were there to help, as I'm not sure what the problem is.

Keep the thread active, hope someone else can take a look at the issue.
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#78 Sep 09 2010 at 2:29 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah I really appreciate it, Ill try unplugging it and putting it in SATA0 slot, I just hope all this messing with it cannot do any serious damage to my SSD, but at this point i might have to buy another hard drive or i have an old dell xps700 that i could steal one from just to give it another option to load from... i dunno tho, il keep ya posted if any methods work
#79 Sep 09 2010 at 3:00 PM Rating: Good
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I put it in the SATA0 , same problem, so i switched it back to GSATA and it let me in, i put the windows CD in and now its saying INSTALL and no option for uninstall... anything i should do to clear my SSD while i am capable of being in the windows screen, ( i decided to uninstall the driver as well )much thanks

Edited, Sep 9th 2010 5:03pm by Micktron05
#80 Sep 09 2010 at 3:28 PM Rating: Good
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Now I switched the SSD back to the SATA20 port and windows worked, told me i need to reset for the corrections to take effect, i think it should be fine... cross the fingers
#81 Sep 09 2010 at 3:32 PM Rating: Good
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Okay i think it worked, I just needed to uninstall the drivers and reinstall them when i got back into windows, never had to uninstall windows, thanks for helping me out!
#82 Sep 09 2010 at 4:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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It's good to hear things are working. Check out this thread and look at the first post.

http://forums.legitreviews.com/about23670.html

Also disable scheduled defrag on your SSD drive and disable indexing for faster searches on your drive properties.
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#83 Sep 09 2010 at 7:53 PM Rating: Good
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def spoke too soon and i knew it... Its crashing again, blue screen, and i have it in the right slots.... i'm pretty much all out of options now. might have to call some geek squad to come over. Im going to one last time reinstall windows 7 and see if that does anything

Edited, Sep 9th 2010 10:05pm by Micktron05
#84 Sep 09 2010 at 8:42 PM Rating: Decent
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well that seemed to work .. for now lol ... its running , going to try to DL a game and see how it performs or if it will blue screen again.
#85 Sep 09 2010 at 9:15 PM Rating: Decent
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If you are spending $2k...why stop at i7-870? :/ Also, your motherboard support 6.0GB/S transfer speed and you only picked a HD that does 3.0GB/S.
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#86 Sep 09 2010 at 9:35 PM Rating: Decent
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"i7 980x + 5970 scored a 6100 on the benchmark if that's what you're asking. "

Don't pull the trigger Mick. You can do better if you take your time and do a bit of research. For the price of that ONE overpriced Hemlock you can get a SLI or Crossfire that can and will hit 7k in bench.

Galaxy GTX 460 in SLI can do it for $300 less...






#87 Sep 10 2010 at 10:58 AM Rating: Decent
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NOOOO !!!!!keeps crashing with a blue screen...... no Idea what is wrong with this machine...

in post ist saying no drivers found, yet when i check BIOs its there and when i check my hard drives in windows it shows up and is working properly.. this Fing SSD drive is the problem and im thinking of returning it.

Edited, Sep 10th 2010 4:07pm by Micktron05
#88 Sep 10 2010 at 3:01 PM Rating: Decent
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so new egg doesnt accept refunds on hard drives.... sooo i guess ill buy a brand new regular HD and reinstall windows on that.... im guessing... this really blows....
#89 Sep 10 2010 at 3:36 PM Rating: Good
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Go into your bios and disable your Marvell IDE controller.

I still don't know why you're bluescreening though.

I think you're hard drive is fine, but something in your bios isn't configured right.

Make sure your BIOS is detecting that your SSD is in SATA and that its mode is set to AHCI. Also turn off any Marvell IDE controllers.

Since (I'm assuming) you didn't install windows with these modes selected first, I would reformat and reinstall windows.

Did you see if TRIM is enabled like I suggested?

Could you be blue-screening from something else? Are your CPU and ram configured correctly?

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#90 Sep 10 2010 at 3:41 PM Rating: Decent
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How can you enable TRIM? how can you config ram/ CPU? and if i reinstall windows , do I need to reinstall all the drivers again? thanks

Edited, Sep 10th 2010 5:44pm by Micktron05

Edited, Sep 10th 2010 5:45pm by Micktron05
#91 Sep 10 2010 at 3:49 PM Rating: Good
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If TRIM is disabled, you could be having a conflict with your BIOS saying your SSD is AHCI and Windows 7 saying it's IDE. This likely happened if you installed Windows 7 without setting your SSD to AHCI to begin with.

Try this link.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922976/en

Is this the error you're having? I am betting it is.

You can either click the Fix-It button or use the "Fix it myself" instructions.

Also remember remember when you're done to DISABLE scheduled defrag.

Edited, Sep 10th 2010 5:49pm by Oenos
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#92 Sep 10 2010 at 3:54 PM Rating: Decent
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  • You can also disable the function to Reboot after BSOD. The information that is displayed on that screen can pretty much narrow down exactly where your problem is stemming from
  • . Also, use the SSD manufactures drivers and not whatever wind update gives you as well

    Sounds like you already know the problem Sorry about that T.T

    Edited, Sep 10th 2010 6:01pm by KingRaul
    #93 Sep 10 2010 at 4:02 PM Rating: Decent
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    na i dont think that the message but ill check if it happens again... still not sure how to check the TRIM settings... did a drivers test in windows, i do not have a driver for the "standard AHCI 1.0 serial ATA controller, but I do have the INtel 5 series /3400 series SATA AHCI controller installed ...dont think that matters tho.... sigh
    also what do you mean about using the SSD manufactures drives and not windows? i never actually had to install anything and the kingston CD that came with my SSD is a "hard drive cloning software"


    Edited, Sep 10th 2010 6:17pm by Micktron05
    #94 Sep 10 2010 at 4:42 PM Rating: Decent
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    i think it might have been a USB 3.0 driver that I installed later than the other drivers, cuz i just played an hour of a game and it ran nice and smooth , still hasnt crashed.. really confusing and im pretty sure the crash error said something like hard drive bla bla ... ill get the full info if it crashes again, thanks
    #95 Sep 10 2010 at 4:54 PM Rating: Decent
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    oh and if i switch something is BIOS does it mean i have to reinstall everything again? Like im seeing that my iTracker for my ASUS video card says i am using a "Bus": PCIE 16X Buslink 2/2 yet in my BIOS i think its set to PCI ... should i switch that to PCIE?












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    CRASH AGAIN ! right after i loaded my game.... blue screen says this : MEMORY MANAGEMENT(but ive seen it also say something about hard drive ).. so I ran a windows memory diagnostics test to see if its the RAM and it didnt find any problems with it. . . still very confused.

    Edited, Sep 10th 2010 11:23pm by Micktron05
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    Just a couple/few more suggestions. 2 things, check your specific memory timing from your manufacturers settings. the first 4 numbers are all thats important. Manually input those into the bios. Run the Memtest program first and see if it flags an issue. You will know it will boot you out of the program on first error.

    Do the memtest first

    Edited, Sep 10th 2010 11:38pm by KingRaul
    #98 Sep 10 2010 at 10:22 PM Rating: Decent
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    can u put this in noob terms... where do i find this memtest? the only one ive googled you have to pay for. and where exactly and i "manually inputting numbers in BIOS???"... and why are these **** machines not as easy to operate (or at least find out the errors on their own ) when they cost so much F**ing money.
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    did memtest -86 v3.5 ... yet it says Intel core i5 2931 MHZ ( not i7 ) and where it says ECC Err or Errors its 0... cached 8183M ....MemMap e820 ... Iter : 2 CPU Sel : SIngle , ... yeah so no idea what any of this **** means
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    Its not errors in mem then it looks like. If you had bad mem it wouldve been like 7000/8*** errors. try to remove the ssd and install windows on a different hdd if you have one. even if its slower that will narrow it down. win 7 will install to like 3 different comp configurations without having to buy it again, so that will be 2 if you remove the SSD.

    Ive installed waaaaay old games just to see what they would be like on my new comp in 64bit and it totally threw my comp. just in case you did that.
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    Yeah i dont think its the memory .. I just got done play 30 min of lead and gold again ( new game not old ) and it worked fine, then i just shut down for the night... really not too sure what this problem is but it seems like its only going to randomly occur, which makes it even more annoying to figure out the problem... as long as it not potentially really harming my computer, im okay with slowly figuring it out, I have thought of trying that method of loading windows again on a regular hd... I have an old one from my dell xps 700 .. would that work or is it too old? i think the problem stemmed from my mobo cd driver installer... the mobo i got from new egg came with a cd that was allllll scratched up and didnt even run when i put it in.. so i had to get the mobo drivers from the website which i assumed gave me all the up to date stuff, yet when i ran a driver detective, it told me i had 2 drivers that needed to be updated ( audio and some other marvl ) then i ran another driver dectective and it said i had 18 drivers that needed updates including my ASUS graphics card which i already updated from the asus site ( so im thinking driver detective is a scam or my comp is lying to me ) again i am left puzzled and hating PCs more than ever lol ....so is it possible that i get a BSOD bc one of my drivers is not updated properly , and if this is the case, why cant a comp be intelligent enough to figure that out and let me know that that is in fact the problem..... uggggghh or maybe im stupid in buying a PC to begin with bc its a $2000 crashing machine at this point .
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