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#53 Sep 01 2010 at 10:22 PM Rating: Decent
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Ah, just says Server Busy. Looks like is perma redirected to it >.>. So I guess I cant even get to the resend email link then.


Try looking in your browser history?


That doesn't work either, already tried several times on various different browsers.
#54 Sep 01 2010 at 10:29 PM Rating: Good
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I'm away through this weekend. At first I was bummed that i'd have to wait, but now I'm sort of thankful that I missed what sounds like a massive headache.

Hopefully I'll be able to get access sometime next week and rejoin the fun. Smiley: smile
#55 Sep 01 2010 at 10:30 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm wondering if you guys saw that page by accident. There has been no word about postponing anything yet. Maybe that was an accident? Hopefully they think they can fix it soon, and that's why we all still getting error page rather than a postponing page.

Wishful thinking i know.
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edit: reread what I wrote and found it a bit too /wristy :)

Edited, Sep 2nd 2010 12:46am by Kordain
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Yogtheterrible wrote:
Kierk wrote:
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Ah, just says Server Busy. Looks like is perma redirected to it >.>. So I guess I cant even get to the resend email link then.


Try looking in your browser history?


That doesn't work either, already tried several times on various different browsers.



I was hoping it would work for someone. :(

I'm just ****** that I was one click away from a %$#@ing key now I can't get back to that spot.

So upset.
#58 Sep 01 2010 at 10:37 PM Rating: Decent
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I think this entire thread pretty much sums it up, SE screwed us and that is about it.

There is really no reason to keep beating the dead horse and we all should have known better if you played FFXI at all. Constant lack of servers/bandwidth and the end customer suffers due to it.

It's a little upsetting when I couldn't get a single key and yet others were able to get 3+ keys which I am sure a few of them will "sell". I wasn't even trying to be greedy, I figured GF and I could share a key so that someone else would have a chance at the other one since we both have collectors edition pre-ordered.

All well, just another day in MMO land.

**EDIT Still amazes me they don't have a queueing system for stuff like this. . . Load the page up (You are currently 1,1000 out of XXXXXX for Open Beta key please wait for your turn at application. Approximent wait time is XX).

Then people don't spam and you can just pop in in the background while you wait. . . I mean it's not that hard I can code something like that in a few hours.

Edited, Sep 2nd 2010 1:09am by xXBijiontXx
#59 Sep 01 2010 at 10:40 PM Rating: Default
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At least this page makes my 16week ETA in uTorrent look slightly less depressing. :( College internet means I can't forward ports.
#60 Sep 01 2010 at 10:45 PM Rating: Decent
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the keys are back up... time to rush..
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#61 Sep 01 2010 at 10:48 PM Rating: Default
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I got to the last page the first time but disconnected.

the 2nd time they said they have received my application but i didn receive the code from them, so i clicked resent email and it crashed again.

I still havnt received anything from them...wtf /_\
#62 Sep 01 2010 at 11:59 PM Rating: Decent
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I'd expect as much from S-E.

I got to the 'agree to terms' page 3 times, but clicking the button did nothing, nothing at all -- now I can't even get into the website without the server error message.

Canceling that collector's edition pre-order I made, I'm not supporting their incompetence.



Edited, Sep 2nd 2010 2:01am by ghosthacked
#63 Sep 02 2010 at 1:31 AM Rating: Decent
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This is so stupid. I don't understand why, when this kind of thing happens with every MMO, they don't plan for it. The excuse is always "unexpcted server loads". Also, instead of putting up a "Server Error" message that's going to make people think they should keep refreshing, why not just tell people what the situation is? I'm so ****** off.
#64 Sep 02 2010 at 1:48 AM Rating: Default
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Just got my code (3:45am EST), keep trying, they are letting a few in at a time.
#65 Sep 02 2010 at 8:28 AM Rating: Default
Congratulations S-E. I've run across similar levels of outright incompetence during Open Beta before and on every single occasion the launch of the game was a complete disaster. Say goodbye to my pre-order.

Edited, Sep 2nd 2010 10:29am by SakuraNoSeirei
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#66 Sep 02 2010 at 8:31 AM Rating: Decent
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SakuraNoSeirei wrote:
Congratulations S-E. I've run across similar levels of outright incompetence during Open Beta before and on every single occasion the launch of the game was a complete disaster. Say goodbye to my pre-order.

Edited, Sep 2nd 2010 10:29am by SakuraNoSeirei
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#67 Sep 02 2010 at 8:55 AM Rating: Decent
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Took me about an hour to get my code last night.

Just have to keep refreshing the screen after it fails to load each time, make sure the page as finished attempting to load each time before you refresh, it took a full 2 minutes to load the page when I finally got through the last time. I forced my 9 year old to do it while I moved couches. When you finally get it to load type your login info, submit (typically from a half loaded page), and you'll have to refresh a bunch more times, make sure you refresh the current page, DO NOT go back to the initial page. If you're lucky your login info will take and you won't be sent back to the login page (I was sent back 3 times).

Keep following this strategy advancing a page at a time and eventually you'll get through. Assuming they haven't suspended the keys again.
#68 Sep 02 2010 at 8:57 AM Rating: Decent
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I was able to get my key in about 45 min..... my secret.... using google chrome instead of internet explorer... dunno why.. but i got in right away and got key after i installed it.
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#70 Sep 02 2010 at 8:59 AM Rating: Default
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Hi Kaintaker, fancy seeing you in this thread. ;)
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EDIT: Nevermind, not gonna bait a troll.

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EDIT: Nevermind, not gonna bait a troll.

Edited, Sep 2nd 2010 9:00am by Degausser


Yea... thats the last thing we need with all the frustration this morning.. is trolls lol
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#73 Sep 02 2010 at 9:59 AM Rating: Good
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lol i love the kids who think they know what happens when 100's of thousands of people try and login to a website at the same time... It has nothing to do with SE incompetence and everything to do with technology limitations. MySQL, Postgres, and other stuff can only access so fast.. trust me i deal with it everyday.. calm down pubbies.


I love it when kids who are read the "My first IT" book come along and whack down some random application names in the hopes that they sound like they know what they are doing. What large commercial company in their right mind would use MySQL or PosgreSQL? Here's a hint for you, in the world of business, accountability and reliability is everything, and that means open source is out the window.

"deal with it everyday"? What, off your www.freewebsite.com/websites/JerrysSiteOfDoom site dedicated to All Things Megatron! I think you need to grow up son.
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#74 Sep 02 2010 at 10:29 AM Rating: Default
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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-09-02-square-enix-limiting-ffxiv-beta-codes

Looks like those of us without a key are SOL.
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#75 Sep 02 2010 at 11:27 AM Rating: Default
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The EG link does have these hopeful words in it:

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If you cannot acquire a registration code, or if you are unable to access the Square Enix Account Management System, we ask that you please wait and try again later.


So I'm really hoping that I'll be able to get one later. Did I tell you I had a dream about playing FFXIV last night? I guess that's what I get for reading ZAM for ages and then going to bed!
#77 Sep 02 2010 at 11:46 AM Rating: Good
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LOL open source out the window? You're a fool.. My office uses 100% open source and our website does 3 million a year in business..



Like he said, large businesses would never use something like MySQL for a database, or XenServer for a virtualization platform.

Open source is a great way of keeping your upfront IT costs down, but as your company grows you need the support and stability that the closed source products offer. There is a reason people pay for Red Hat Enterprise Linux, when there are more free linux alternatives than you can shake a stick at.

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#79 Sep 02 2010 at 11:59 AM Rating: Decent
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This is the biggest ****ing joke. SE claims that Closed Beta testers will not have to re-apply and that they'll be sent their codes in the mail shortly. THEN THEY CHANGE THEIR CLAIM AN HOUR LATER. WHO DOES THAT?

Really. Who does that?


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#81 Sep 02 2010 at 12:02 PM Rating: Decent
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It was known for a while that applications would be throttled. Though I would've expected SE to have had a better setup in place rather than "let the server catch fire, then stop apps until it gets put out." Should've known better, lol. >.< But I'd expect this to be a cycle where the apps are up and down, since they want to try and spread out the people logging in. (Would've hoped the servers to take the load especially since they would've known how many beta apps they'd gotten previously and the assumption would be every one of them would be trying for open beta -- but again, too much to expect of SE, I guess.)


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Why would I pay for Redhat when CentOS is free. It is RedHat without the name.

The name and the support. While I certainly wouldn't go for RHEL (I use Fedora on my own server), I'm also not a large corporation, and that's generally the market that wants official, guaranteed support. Sure, the internet's great and you can usually find the answer out there somewhere, but not everyone has the luxury of time (or money for paying their IT staff to go find answers to the issues they're having). Hence why we've got options. ^^ For those who don't need paid support, you don't have to pay, and since support is the only part of the solution that is costing money, you can get the rest (or 99% of the rest) for no monetary cost (the cost is that you support yourself -- but if that's what you want anyway then it's win-win).

RHEL has its place for sure (as does enterprise MySQL, etc.), but that doesn't mean its place is in your environment, especially if your environment isn't set up in a typical enterprise manner. ^^
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#82 Sep 02 2010 at 12:05 PM Rating: Decent
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Agent Gregg: There have been known issues today, specifically with Square Enix account management.
ShaunB: Since I stopped playing it asked me to re-enter my billing info
ShaunB: yes I understand, I am still trying to get a beta key
ShaunB: but this issues with FFXI should be an easy fix
Agent Gregg: If you have a Square Enix account linked to your PlayOnline ID you may experience login issues.
ShaunB: as I do, b/c they were emphasizing so much that we had to do so to get the "perks" and the special in game items
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I guess those who were in the CB can't play the OB even though we were told that the CB code would work in the OB.

I just got the "Applications for the FINAL FANTASY XIV Open Beta Test have been temporarily suspended. Please wait until we are ready to accept new applications and then try again." a few minutes ago and according the a linked article...there are going to be no more OB key releases in the near future.
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#85 Sep 02 2010 at 12:11 PM Rating: Default
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I wish SE would relief all from checking their site repeatedly for hours unend trying to get through application for OB. If they run out of keys, just say it!! don't give us the false hope to keep on trying. Just tell us unlucky close Beta participants to wait for the official release.
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#87 Sep 02 2010 at 12:21 PM Rating: Decent
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Though I would've expected SE to have had a better setup in place rather than "let the server catch fire, then stop apps until it gets put out." Should've known better, lol.


That is hilariously accurate.

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I wish SE would relief all from checking their site repeatedly for hours unend trying to get through application for OB. If they run out of keys, just say it!! don't give us the false hope to keep on trying. Just tell us unlucky close Beta participants to wait for the official release.


I wish they would as well, but they are very much keeping us in the dark. It's driving me nuts. It wouldn't be too hard to post an update and let us know what is going on!
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#89 Sep 02 2010 at 12:27 PM Rating: Decent
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I guess those who were in the CB can't play the OB even though we were told that the CB code would work in the OB.


Actually I was in CB, we were told they would not work with OB.
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I wish SE would relief all from checking their site repeatedly for hours unend trying to get through application for OB. If they run out of keys, just say it!! don't give us the false hope to keep on trying. Just tell us unlucky close Beta participants to wait for the official release.


I can't believe how many CB people I'm hearing whine that they're the only people that's affected by this. I have never been able to have access to this game. It's really hard for me to have sympathy for you.
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Actually I was in CB, we were told they would not work with OB.

Actually, last night the instructions site specifically told us that we didnt need to apply and they would email us with a key before they took it down *after* all the keys were gone, then later told us "whoops not gonna do that"


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I can't believe how many CB people I'm hearing whine that they're the only people that's affected by this. I have never been able to have access to this game. It's really hard for me to have sympathy for you.


as above, misinformation globally, we were essentially lied to, followed up by a lack of any knowledge of whats actually going on. After going through all their tests and ideas which may or may not have worked in limsa lominsa coupled with having to play with everyone in only a single city with oddly balanced monsters and lack of good grind spots after inevitable running out of guildleves (which had no way to retry after dc failing them) it goes without saying. Also the low surplus cap...

We want to play this new version where supposedly they fixed much of that. I wont say I didnt have fun in beta, but it was also rigged with all sorts of problems that hampered how much of that ti could be enjoyed. While cool, what we were given was lackluster, a LOT was missing.

With that said, I can sympathize with everyone as we are all being left in the dark after a ****-poor performance of opening it involving issues with could have easily been lessened with a little bit of preparation.

I am also not hearing CB people say "they are the only ones hurt by this" but we certainly have been insulted by SE, and many of us never tried to get a key at first because of their bad post. You should at least try understand that.

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Silverwyrm wrote:

I am also not hearing CB people say "they are the only ones hurt by this" but we certainly have been insulted by SE, and many of us never tried to get a key at first because of their bad post. You should at least try understand that.

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Well you actually seem level-headed and cool about it. I honestly have heard people say things along those lines. People saying "Why does SE hate us CBers" and crap like that. And after hearing it quite a bit I can't help but shake my head in disbelief that people are that egocentric.

I do feel what you're saying and it seems that we agree with the overall premise that this entire OB process has so far sucked the fun right out of the air for a lot of people.
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Had a feeling this would happen as im used to it happening in ff11 when they launched something in the past.
first up in europe ,so only just now had chance to try apply but it down so if it goes back up i might try or if i cant just wait till release. what i will say though and im not sure if the client the same as one they put up 2 days ago is i hope they dont use that download system as i cant even update and my knowlege of port forward stuff i read on this site is zero (im virgin media ) so some people said there might be issue with that.
so even if i get into beta later i think i might not be able download the client.

anyone else in same boat with that download thing ?

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#94 Sep 02 2010 at 12:51 PM Rating: Decent
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People saying "Why does SE hate us CBers" and crap like that.


I would assume they are saying that because SE told us they were gonna send us keys and not to apply, then AFTER all the OB keys were gone, that post dissapeared only to be replaced with "sorry you need to apply too"

More than anything I just want them to tell us what in the blazes is going on and some kind of eta for new keys so we can stop playing this refresh game. This is SE though.... =/
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Ah well, no luck tonight and I'm off out for some drinks now. Perhaps tomorrow will be a better day!
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Has anyone successfully gotten a key in the past few hours?
#97 Sep 02 2010 at 1:17 PM Rating: Default
In this instance I will Take neither side. But I will say that SE has not learned about bandwidth or server stresses yet.....I seem to remember that the Beta for FFXI had no such issues, at least on the PS2 side of it. We started on the day it went Beta and we stopped the day beta ended. There weren't all these down times, and the only noticeable difference was ROZ zones, which if you hit 40 in beta you were given a code for. But then again by the time NA beta started the game had been live in Japan for what a year, maybe 2.

If they really wanted to pull a server stress test they would max bandwidth and Key issuance, hence making open beta just that, an OPEN BETA. Obviously things have not been learned from the 24+ hour attempts people had to go through just to update FFXI sometimes.
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#98 Sep 02 2010 at 1:27 PM Rating: Good
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Obviously things have not been learned from the 24+ hour attempts people had to go through just to update FFXI sometimes.


while ff11 did have some bad update moments, i think this client patch thing is 10x worse than anything ive tried updating in ff11.
have fast internet speed but atm trying the client just got 24 kb max speed on the big file at 0.2% downloaded
#99 Sep 02 2010 at 7:36 PM Rating: Decent
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What's so difficult in adding a queuing system to get registration codes?

I mean, you'd have seen a lot less people going jihad on SE if they'd just be more informative, something like:

You're in queue to get a registration code, position in queue: 24342342424 out of 38247438427348723423

it'd at least let us know where we stand, instead of this mad rush, people spamming refresh and having 50 browser windows open, trying to muscle their way in, or just hoping to get lucky.

But hey, I guess putting up server error pages and suspending registrations is a better route.

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beta keys are the new way for open beta's haven't you heard. It's the easiest way to keep people at bay while still claiming it's an open beta
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lol i love the kids who think they know what happens when 100's of thousands of people try and login to a website at the same time... It has nothing to do with SE incompetence and everything to do with technology limitations. MySQL, Postgres, and other stuff can only access so fast.. trust me i deal with it everyday.. calm down pubbies.


lol i love the people who think that 100's of thousands of people that aren't tech savvy are just kids. It has nothing to do with age and everything to do with not everybody having the same amount of exposure to these things as other people. In fact, wouldn't older people be exposed to this stuff less thus more ignorant then "kids" who grew up with it? Trust me I see tech savvy people ignorantly calling everybody "kids" every single day (I am one of these people.. 30 year old IT).. calm down dude.
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