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#1 Sep 01 2010 at 10:23 PM Rating: Good
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I hope all of you that plan on taking time off to play on launch day take note of the cluster that this open beta has been. This is nothing compared to how bad it will be on launch day, so I wouldn't waste too much vacation time trying to play the first week or two.
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I hope all of you that plan on taking time off to play on launch day take note of the cluster that this open beta has been. This is nothing compared to how bad it will be on launch day, so I wouldn't waste too much vacation time trying to play the first week or two.


Which is ironic considering that first week is a major selling point of the collector's edition, but you're completely right.
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#3 Sep 01 2010 at 10:29 PM Rating: Decent
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Really though every one will be longing in that day but not all at same time. Do to when where people by their game. what time the place opens & further more what time zone. will be cutting down a lot on everyone logging in at same time witch will help out some not a lot but some.
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#4 Sep 01 2010 at 10:43 PM Rating: Default
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More to the point, we'll all be able to at least 'get' online. The mass of confusion and spam involved in getting keys, and those of us unable to snag one, is really the more frustrating part of the day.

Edited, Sep 1st 2010 9:48pm by ZephyrAM
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Here's to hoping the next few days will go A LOT smoother. ****, the next few hours. Is the application still down?
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Just waiting for Sept 22..

"We're sorry but activations of the Collector's Edition of Final Fantasy XIV Online is temporarily suspended due to server congestion. Please try again later. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused"
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#7 Sep 01 2010 at 10:58 PM Rating: Good
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Ever think they might be doing this to prepare for when the game is released?
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#8 Sep 02 2010 at 12:33 AM Rating: Excellent
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Well sure, that's what Beta is for, to prepare for Release.

That said though, you can't help but look at the whole fiasco and wonder how they couldn't have expected and 'prepared' for the influx of players that we all knew was going to hit servers the moment they opened.

And the beta keys for 'Open' beta? Goes a little against the meaning, but alright, can work with that... except the keys lasted all of about two hours and it wasn't until after they were all gone that they finally realized they were telling previous Beta players that they didn't need to apply for keys, even though they really did.

They can certainly still fix this whole mess, but it's going to take a lot of fast maintenance and a much larger stock of 'Open' Beta keys. I absolutely get that it's Beta, a testing period, but that doesn't change the bad taste this has all given so many potential players.
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I was planning to take a day off on Sept. 22nd. But with this whole mess, I think I'll take my day off on the 27th. Many people say "this is why there is open beta". Well, SE wanted as many OB testers as they could to do a "stress test" on their servers. They got what they wanted and weren't prepared for it. It would be understandable if the game servers crashed due to all of us logging in. But ****, most of us can't even get a key to log in.

I hope, SE will learn from this but I highly doubt they will. We can only see if they did learn on the 22nd.
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#10 Sep 02 2010 at 12:40 AM Rating: Decent
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And the beta keys for 'Open' beta? Goes a little against the meaning, but alright, can work with that... except the keys lasted all of about two hours and it wasn't until after they were all gone that they finally realized they were telling previous Beta players that they didn't need to apply for keys, even though they really did.


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This may be the 1st game instruction manual I look at and question everything it says, "Go to somewebsite.com and register this code" Hmmm...yeah I'll believe that when I see it SE!
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I know it's Beta and all. However, most MMOs don't change drastically between OB and release. And honestly, I don't why they would send out emails telling CB participants not the get OB keys when they needed them. On top of that, if you're going to send an email full of instructions, would it have been so hard to have it sent with a OB key too? And the whole concept of having a key for OB, kind of goes against the entire reasoning in differentiating a CB and OB. From downloading the client to getting into the game, every decision and action they took seem to be the wrong one. I can't imagine how they're gonna handle in game situations...

EDIT: Oh yea...Also this is a large company. Not some small start group that's going through the motions. They should have enough experience and knowledge to know that there are millions of FF fans world wide that would jump on the game, despite the bad publicity they've been getting.

Edited, Sep 2nd 2010 2:51am by likwidsage
#13 Sep 02 2010 at 2:20 AM Rating: Good
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Talk about flashbacks to the good ol' update days of FFXI.

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I'm not trying to put salt on the wound but I did post a couple times that although I wasn't on any Closed Beta I still got the email from SE with the instructions.

As such I assumed that those instructions were to all Account holders, not just the ones in Beta.
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I'm not trying to put salt on the wound but I did post a couple times that although I wasn't on any Closed Beta I still got the email from SE with the instructions.

As such I assumed that those instructions were to all Account holders, not just the ones in Beta.


Aye, you did...but you can't blame anyone for not being sure about which set of instructions to trust from SE sometimes...it could've easily been a mass-email sent to all accounts that didn't pertain to all accounts...
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I took off the 23rd. I figure i get the game midnight on 22nd, and it takes all day to get this crap resolved, download updates etc. But that might be wishful thinking...
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SE is a big company but there is no point in building a huge account server that can handle 50,000 requests in 10 mins -- that's never going to happen again.

i'm actually surprised that their software was rugged enough to withstand the barrage. there were people online and playing within 2 hours of opening. that's pretty **** good for an open beta.
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#18 Sep 02 2010 at 6:12 AM Rating: Good
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And the beta keys for 'Open' beta? Goes a little against the meaning, but alright, can work with that...

I thought people had been over this enough times on this forum that it had been cleared up, but I guess there are still people that have no idea what they are talking about. Open=/=Public. The fact that it is open simply means that the NDA has been dropped, not that everyone can play. This is not a demo, it is still a controlled testing period. Yes, it is poor form to lock out people who had previously been in the closed beta, but if you weren't in closed beta then thinking you are entitled to a key for no apparent reason is not going to get you one.

As for the speculation that this is what launch day will be like, you may be right about there being queues due to the servers being full, but you know what the difference is? Once I pick up my copy of the collector's edition from the store I will have my key, I'll know that I'll be able to get on eventually even if the login servers are jammed, or worse, the registration site goes down. Believe me, I'm just as unhappy as everyone else about the way last night went down. I wasted 2 hours trying to get through to get a key, after which I gave up because it was midnight, I was exhausted, and I have to go to work today, but I didn't expect to find out that the keys were all gone when I woke up and tried just under 8 hours later.

Another thing about launch day is the fact that the login attempts will be spread out. We won't have everyone in the entire world crashing the site at 2:00 GMT, because not everyone will have a key then. For example, I won't be picking my copy up until about 10:00 AM eastern because that is when the store I pre-ordrered at opens, people in pacific time will have it 3 hours before me, and so on for various time zones. Chances are there will also be less people on launch day as only people who purchase the game will have access, as opposed to the open beta which everyone and their brother could try to sign up for.
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I just want to ask those who play other MMO. Is this madness only happen with SE or is it the same with other MMO during launch day or expansion pack release?
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#20 Sep 02 2010 at 6:23 AM Rating: Excellent
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Ever think they might be doing this to prepare for when the game is released?


They'd have used their time better at least TRYING to make the game stable.

I say as the launcher suddenly throws updates @ me. . which is something it didn't do 30 seconds ago O.O

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#21 Sep 02 2010 at 9:33 AM Rating: Decent
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Well even if the launch is a complete failure I still have Civilization V to play. Either way, I will hopefully be having a ridiculously good time.
#22 Sep 02 2010 at 9:46 AM Rating: Decent
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Yes if anyone remembers you couldn't log into WOW very much either on its original launch day. Its just the way MMO launches are as the login servers get top heavy with newcomers. Once all that evens out, and new accounts arent logging in in-mass, things return to normal. As said above it would be silly to build a server just to handle launch day load as that kind of traffic wont be seen again, until say a expansion comes out or some such.
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I have noticed that when I can get in, at least our server usually has a queue. I hope the capacity goes up for launch, or that they have more servers.
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#24 Sep 02 2010 at 9:55 AM Rating: Good
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I remember the launch for FFXI on the PS2 and just installing the HDD and the software took up the entire first day...I remember a group of us that were used to playing games from all over the US were so ****** we had to sit and wath the installing updates screen for several hours.

I do not get to excited over game launches anymore and kinda expect it to be shatty the first week if not month.
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hehe i remember the aion launch, some servers had 8-10 hour queues lol

i would finish work in the morning, log on and join the queue just so i could play in the evening.
#26 Sep 02 2010 at 10:05 AM Rating: Excellent
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To be fair to FFXIV theres a chance here that we're seeing a way worse situation then launch. You figure that every Tom Dave and Sally are going after the Beta just cause it's free not cause they're gonna buy it on launch. You've got alot of game media outlets plugging the beta on their front page.

And Yes MMO launches are like this. I got WoW on opening day had to wait 2 hours in que just to get on DoomHammer. I kinda figure the launch will be rough but I'm not buying the CE for the early access but for the items it comes with and I like the box better ^^
#27 Sep 02 2010 at 10:15 AM Rating: Good
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I just want to ask those who play other MMO. Is this madness only happen with SE or is it the same with other MMO during launch day or expansion pack release?


Depending on the game, the hype, the curiousness, and the fan base... Most open betas for other MMOs are exactly like this... except for one little thing. The procedure of aquiring an open beta key is a little bit more complicated with FFXIV. You shouldn't have to fight over keys or go through several websites in order to get the key and then goto a different website to register it... while every single website on the route is getting pummeled to death by people trying to get their own key or registering it.

I remember some open betas that you had to go to Fileplanet (or another website) to actually get the key and to download the game, and this kept the official website from taking a hit that they weren't quite ready for... what should have happened here was SE should have staggered the open beta key/registering by letting so many people from each region grab the keys at certain times... like... Japan/Asia would get 2000 (just an hypothetical number) keys to hand out at 8am JST, Europe would then get their 2000 keys at 10am JST, and North America would get their 2000 keys at 12pm JST.

The ups and downs for the servers and patches are around for any beta... closed or open.
#28 Sep 02 2010 at 10:19 AM Rating: Decent
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I took nearly an entire week off for FFXIV launch. All paid vacation.

Taking off the day of Midnight Release, will see how installing/etc goes. Then don't have to return to work until the Weds after.

Best part is is I still have vacation time left after that with more coming. :D

I realize everyone is in QQ mode but it wont be as bad as everyone thinks. Even if it was - I <3 me some vacation time either way!
#29 Sep 02 2010 at 10:24 AM Rating: Decent
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I played the beta for Aion and the launch for North American servers was messy. Same for EQ2. Lots of people trying to log in and whether SoE or NCSoft knew what was coming, I don't think they had the resources to make transition smoother. I'll give SE the benefit of the doubt. So far in comparison there's been good progress.
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I took nearly an entire week off for FFXIV launch. All paid vacation.

Taking off the day of Midnight Release, will see how installing/etc goes.!


Who's doing a midnight release for this game? 'cause none of the Gamestops in South Western Phoenix are.
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Who's doing a midnight release for this game? 'cause none of the Gamestops in South Western Phoenix are.


Pretty sure our Gamestop will be. From my understanding - they're Midnight Release just about anything as long as enough people will show up.

We have a VERY small community - FFXIII Midnight Release maybe had 30 people? and they opened up the doors. I went THE DAY you could preorder FFXIV and I wasn't the first person who had preordered, so I have a feeling we'll have enough.

I'll double check and let you know though.
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Who's doing a midnight release for this game? 'cause none of the Gamestops in South Western Phoenix are.


Pretty sure our Gamestop will be. From my understanding - they're Midnight Release just about anything as long as enough people will show up.

We have a VERY small community - FFXIII Midnight Release maybe had 30 people? and they opened up the doors. I went THE DAY you could preorder FFXIV and I wasn't the first person who had preordered, so I have a feeling we'll have enough.

I'll double check and let you know though.


My Gamestop guy told me (even before I asked) that they were not doing the midnight release for the CE and he had doubts it would happen with the regular version.... since they don't routinely sell PC games at the Gamestop I goto, but when I asked about WoW Cataclysm he said the company (Gamestop) has already told him it would have a midnight launch... even before they knew/know what the release date is... strange, but not really that uncommon.

He also told me that if enough people pay off their CE/standard preorders for FFXIV to warrant a midnight release he would be there at midnight to hand them out anyway.

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#33 Sep 02 2010 at 10:36 AM Rating: Decent
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Yeah they try to get me to Preorder crap all the time when I go in there, so that doesn't suprise me.

I'll call and double check in a few minutes.
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#36 Sep 02 2010 at 11:29 AM Rating: Decent
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Woah so.. there was a fixed amount of beta keys?

Hehe this whole mess reminds me of Aion Open Beta and pre-launch days.. chaos chaos
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lol at waisting vacation days to play a video game...


lol at not being able to spell "wasting"

and if you are relaxing and enjoying yourself, how is it a waste?
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