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#1 Sep 01 2010 at 11:03 PM Rating: Default
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Forgive me, There are thousands of these threads, I know, but I have a particular question that I haven't seen many people ask yet. Everyone's been building a computer from scratch, but I was wondering if this particular computer would run FFXIV

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883114088

After buying this Graphics card and installing it?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131346

All around the total would be about $470 which seems right around the prices for building a computer from scratch. I have absolute confidence in this, but I figured I would get a much more educated second opinion on the matter. Thank you :)
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#2 Sep 01 2010 at 11:06 PM Rating: Default
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Not well from what I understand. I have a similar model and am quickly realizing it's going to be better to wait and get something decent that will run 14.
#3 Sep 01 2010 at 11:10 PM Rating: Decent
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It used to be a general rule that if you want to play games you should run screaming from anything that says "integrated graphics", but I don't know if it's still so.

Otherwise it does seem to meet the minimum requirements. That's far from a guarantee that you'll have a good experience, but yeah, it would probably run the program.

If I were you I'd spend a couple hundred more and get a quad core processor and more RAM.
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ok let no say this again once...

U have 20 dmg, u shoot 30 dmg, but if ur not RNG, u want HALF, with no time reload, so u get 10. but, BUT, u want no DRG since ur shooting, so its 30 dmg or 10?
#4 Sep 01 2010 at 11:13 PM Rating: Default
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Esthalos wrote:
It used to be a general rule that if you want to play games you should run screaming from anything that says "integrated graphics", but I don't know if it's still so.

Otherwise it does seem to meet the minimum requirements. That's far from a guarantee that you'll have a good experience, but yeah, it would probably run the program.

If I were you I'd spend a couple hundred more and get a quad core processor and more RAM.


i understand that integrated graphics suck, my plan was to buy the graphics card that I had listed and perhaps even overclock it a tad. A few questions if I may;

Are the processors really that big of a difference between 2 and 4? And is 4 gigs of RAM certainly not enough to run this game? My goal is not to run it at maximum graphics, which I probably should have stated earlier.
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#5 Sep 01 2010 at 11:13 PM Rating: Good
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Spend a little more and get the 5770, I initially had the 5750 and wasn't happy with it, now things are running well

The processor seems to have low cache......not good
#6 Sep 01 2010 at 11:14 PM Rating: Good
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FFXI really likes a quad core CPU. The difference between 2 cores (by setting core afinity) and 4 cores is quite apparent.
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Final Fantasy XI 12-14-11 Update wrote:
Adjust the resolution of menus.
The main screen resolution for "FINAL FANTASY XI" is dependent on the "Overlay Graphics Resolution" setting.
If the Overlay Graphics Resolution is set higher than the Menu Resolution, menus will be automatically resized.


I thought of it first:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20
#7 Sep 01 2010 at 11:20 PM Rating: Decent
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Kitprower wrote:
i understand that integrated graphics suck, my plan was to buy the graphics card that I had listed and perhaps even overclock it a tad. A few questions if I may;

Are the processors really that big of a difference between 2 and 4? And is 4 gigs of RAM certainly not enough to run this game? My goal is not to run it at maximum graphics, which I probably should have stated earlier.
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Going from 2 to 4 cores makes a very large difference on the benchmark, and I keep hearing the same goes for the game (I can't vouch that this is true).

And what I meant by the integrated graphics comment is that that phrase used to mean that there was no AGP or PCIe port, meaning that you can't actually add a separate graphics card. I would be sure you can use that card before buying anything. In fact, under graphics interface it says integrated video. Not a good sign.

The recommended requirements call for 4g of RAM or more. I'm just saying that with a bit more of an investment I think you can have a much better experience from the game.
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BRD75, PLD67, WHM42, WAR37, NIN37, SMN20

Armant wrote:
ok let no say this again once...

U have 20 dmg, u shoot 30 dmg, but if ur not RNG, u want HALF, with no time reload, so u get 10. but, BUT, u want no DRG since ur shooting, so its 30 dmg or 10?
#8 Sep 01 2010 at 11:21 PM Rating: Default
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Here's another thing to think about.

With the new Vid Card, you will need a new Power Supply, which could run you as high as an additional 100.00. The 4GB of ram on this is eh..iffy, it's only DDR2. I'm thinking this is probably running the same Motherboard as minew, and something I painfully found out is that you can upgrade the processor, but only to a max of 89 watts. These currently only use 45. You're looking at 600 JUST to try to get this to run (Only Dual Core...Iffy). Since youre in the market for a computer anyway, 700-750 will get you what you need to run this game with all the upgrades you need.
#9 Sep 01 2010 at 11:22 PM Rating: Decent
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Okay, Seems like I've got a lot of feedback from this and I appreciate everyone for their time and knowledge. I'll continue researching and trying to match my budget to something very decent. Thank you!
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#10 Sep 01 2010 at 11:34 PM Rating: Decent
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Ethani209 wrote:
Here's another thing to think about.

With the new Vid Card, you will need a new Power Supply, which could run you as high as an additional 100.00. The 4GB of ram on this is eh..iffy, it's only DDR2. I'm thinking this is probably running the same Motherboard as minew, and something I painfully found out is that you can upgrade the processor, but only to a max of 89 watts. These currently only use 45. You're looking at 600 JUST to try to get this to run (Only Dual Core...Iffy). Since youre in the market for a computer anyway, 700-750 will get you what you need to run this game with all the upgrades you need.


I took some of what you said to heart and found this gaming desktop that's 100% in my budget range, granted It's still just a dual core processor, but everything else seems fine.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229194

Hopefully I'm not annoying everyone by my constant questions. I was made aware to check for Processor Cache, in which this has 1MB x2, it was stated 512 was too little, If I may ask; what is the minimum I should be looking at?

The graphics I cannot tell for the life of me if they are integrated but with the little bit of tech savvyness I have, I feel (though probably incorrectly) that this will run the game on low settings.

Once again, I whole heartedly apologize if I am in fact annoying everyone, however the ZAM community is all I really know in terms of a helpful community to come to for direct and accurate answers.

Edited, Sep 2nd 2010 1:35am by Kitprower
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#11 Sep 01 2010 at 11:42 PM Rating: Decent
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Esthalos wrote:


Going from 2 to 4 cores makes a very large difference on the benchmark, and I keep hearing the same goes for the game (I can't vouch that this is true).


i7 860
HD 5850
Windows 7 Professional

Running windowed at 720p

2 cores: 2490
4 cores: 5674


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Final Fantasy XI 12-14-11 Update wrote:
Adjust the resolution of menus.
The main screen resolution for "FINAL FANTASY XI" is dependent on the "Overlay Graphics Resolution" setting.
If the Overlay Graphics Resolution is set higher than the Menu Resolution, menus will be automatically resized.


I thought of it first:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20
#12 Sep 01 2010 at 11:44 PM Rating: Decent
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Lobivopis wrote:
Esthalos wrote:


Going from 2 to 4 cores makes a very large difference on the benchmark, and I keep hearing the same goes for the game (I can't vouch that this is true).


i7 860
HD 5850
Windows 7 Professional

Running windowed at 720p

2 cores: 2490
4 cores: 5674


What a difference! You've convinced me. It seems as if I'll have to increase my budget and go for a 12month finance. That being said, I bet it would be agreed upon that this would be the better investment? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229130
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#13 Sep 01 2010 at 11:47 PM Rating: Good
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I was just currently finished building my Pc aswell and you really want to watch out when your dealing with Ibuypower. Some if not all of the reviews were dealing with parts not being connected as well as blue screens. As for the model you posted up....everything is fine on it except on huge factor...the graphics card. Raedon Hd 5450 shouldn't even be considered as a graphics card. If you decided on purchasing this Computer you will more than like have to put in atleast 700-750. Feel free to ask more questions though.
#14 Sep 01 2010 at 11:49 PM Rating: Decent
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Kitprower wrote:
Lobivopis wrote:
Esthalos wrote:


Going from 2 to 4 cores makes a very large difference on the benchmark, and I keep hearing the same goes for the game (I can't vouch that this is true).


i7 860
HD 5850
Windows 7 Professional

Running windowed at 720p

2 cores: 2490
4 cores: 5674


What a difference! You've convinced me. It seems as if I'll have to increase my budget and go for a 12month finance. That being said, I bet it would be agreed upon that this would be the better investment? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229130


that video card is terrible.
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Final Fantasy XI 12-14-11 Update wrote:
Adjust the resolution of menus.
The main screen resolution for "FINAL FANTASY XI" is dependent on the "Overlay Graphics Resolution" setting.
If the Overlay Graphics Resolution is set higher than the Menu Resolution, menus will be automatically resized.


I thought of it first:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20
#15 Sep 01 2010 at 11:53 PM Rating: Good
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You should try building a Pc instead you'll more than likely spend the max $778 and get everything you need here is an example of a start off http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.473044
#16 Sep 01 2010 at 11:54 PM Rating: Decent
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A question I still have is the processor cache. What's the minimum I should be looking for? Should I bother with any quad cores that say " 4 x 512KB L2 Cache "?
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#17 Sep 01 2010 at 11:59 PM Rating: Decent
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OhmyTerror wrote:
You should try building a Pc instead you'll more than likely spend the max $778 and get everything you need here is an example of a start off http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.473044


Could you tell me more about this? I'm not an expert at self building. The price seems phenomenal but as stupid as this may sound, I'm not seeing anything related to a Graphics card. Does this combination bring everything I need leaving the graphics card out? If so, It's still a good deal seeing as I'd still spend a little under $700. Or am I 100% looking at this the wrong way?
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#18 Sep 02 2010 at 12:06 AM Rating: Good
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The graphics card isn't included neither is the disk drive or the hard drive. I can help you a bit with what graphics card to add to the mix, i would recommend anything above 5770 radeon hd I not to sharp on NVIDIA.
#19 Sep 02 2010 at 12:12 AM Rating: Decent
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OhmyTerror wrote:
The graphics card isn't included neither is the disk drive or the hard drive. I can help you a bit with what graphics card to add to the mix, i would recommend anything above 5770 radeon hd I not to sharp on NVIDIA.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148397

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136180


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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131346

With the combo you just listed with all 3 of these, would it work?


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#20 Sep 02 2010 at 12:12 AM Rating: Good
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If you were to get this combo set when you add a hard drive to the mix you want to make sure it is compatible first so you also have to check to see if it is SATA or IDE.
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OhmyTerror wrote:
If you were to get this combo set when you add a hard drive to the mix you want to make sure it is compatible first so you also have to check to see if it is SATA or IDE.


I believe the Hard drive I listed was SATA. Any critiques on the the objects I listed?
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#22 Sep 02 2010 at 12:19 AM Rating: Good
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For the Disk drive it says it's only compatible with Windows Vista, XP, 2003/2008 server if you were trying to run Windows 7 ...no. The hard drive is compatible though and for the video card I'm actually not really sure :(
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