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#302BRizzl3, Posted: Sep 23 2010 at 6:37 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) No capitalization used, no punctuation for contractions, release spelled incorrectly, guy used in a non-plural context when it clearly should've been plural... what's wrong with you?
#303 Sep 23 2010 at 6:37 PM Rating: Decent
8 posts
I love this game!That is all.
#304 Sep 24 2010 at 11:54 AM Rating: Decent
28 posts
All current games rip this game apart, there's nothing cutting edge about it, no AH, no PVP, only basic quests. I mean you can't even jump in the freaking game, is it really that hard to make a character jump in a game? But oh ya there also is incredibly difficult crafting and gathering, and if you get attacked while say mining, guess again if you think you get to use your pick to defend yourself. Nope you only get to throw rocks at that bad creature! And as for the visual stunning world, well they were so lazy in creating this game you will find all areas copied over and over again. But hey a few small things I'm grateful for, they gave us the option to turn off the irritating sound the game makes every time you use your action bar. We can at least fix our keyboard configurations for everyone not on a laptop will probably want to do, just need a way to configure the mouse now.

Oh ya to here's the the wonderful development of this game, have fun reinstalling the game after you just installed it!

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[Current Issues]
-Teleport and Return are not functioning properly near area boundaries.
*Please note that using Teleport or Return near area boundaries will consume anima, but will have no effect.

-If a player has viewed the credits, the game may display the error message " An update error has occurred. Error 20524" and fail to update properly.
*We apologize for the inconvenience, but if this error occurs we ask that you please reinstall FINAL FANTASY XIV.

Edited, Sep 24th 2010 1:58pm by aldenpark
#305 Sep 24 2010 at 12:02 PM Rating: Decent
40 posts
So they should hand everything to you and make it easy to get everything...youve gone WoW.

Edited, Sep 24th 2010 2:03pm by Inion
#306 Sep 24 2010 at 12:10 PM Rating: Excellent
Edited by bsphil
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Inion wrote:
So they should hand everything to you and make it easy to get everything...youve gone WoW.
You want an effective and organized UI? Go back to WoW!

Smooth installation process? Go back to WoW!

Lots of content? Go back to WoW!

Need help getting started with the basics of the game? Go back to WoW!

There's an enormous difference between removing any challenge from the game and handing everything to you on a platter, and giving you a tutorial to walk you through step-by-step how to use the basics of the game before heading out on your own. Making the difficulty curve consistently low is just as stupid as making the curve consistently high. It needs to start low and progress higher.
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#307 Sep 24 2010 at 12:18 PM Rating: Default
40 posts
I'm sorry but im sure most of the people who are playing this(especially in CE) have played an mmo b4 and do not need to be coddled.

Ui does need work, never said it didn't

Installation was not a problem for me, neither was patch, went smooth and didn't take to long.

It's a brand new game and your saying it need more content...justify.

Opening statement.

#308 Sep 24 2010 at 12:25 PM Rating: Decent
90 posts
Why are ppl comparing this game to WoW? WoW has been out for like 6 years? this game is 2 days since release....
#309Inion, Posted: Sep 24 2010 at 12:26 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I didn't, i simply said if he wants it easy to go play wow...oh right, you weren't talking to me HA-HA!
#310 Sep 28 2010 at 7:31 AM Rating: Decent
46 posts
If you want to get a good idea of the quality of this game, visit and see what the Japanese players think of it. The stars speak for themselves and the numbers of people who think the high rating reviews are helpful and the numbers who think the low rating reviews are. The people, i.e. the rational ones, not the fanboys, have spoken.
#311 Sep 28 2010 at 8:19 AM Rating: Good
105 posts
Wow this thread is still going strong, and causing quite a few debates.

After my beta experience and play time over the past week, I must say I have quite enjoyed the game. Does it have its problems? Yes but having experienced the game for my self, from what I have been able to play, I have been enjoying my experience.

It was a very painless installation process, took a little while but I am only going to need to install it once. Patching was smooth, for the initial patch upon release, I was behind a router with unopen ports, still d/l'ing at 400kbps. Payment info was easy.

When I was first getting started, I had no idea what I was doing. I loved every moment of it. I left WoW because I disliked how it held your hand throughout the whole game. The battle system was confusing at first but I like how it works.

The launch of the game was great. I was able to get in with minimal fuss. I noticed improvements in connection speeds, the mouse cursor and menus. I went into Warhammer Online about a month after it went online and within 10 minutes I had managed to glitch the game and fall through the graphics. Fury Online was so laggy on release week. I decided to give it a little time to stabilize and after a month, nothing had improved.

The game does have its problems though. The retainer system does look like a good idea, and I can sort of see what direction they want to take them but I am not too sure that it can be done. I feel that the inventory list is painful to navigate and some of the menu options seem a little redundant. Not having the camera follow behind you is a little disorientating.

Overall I give this game a 8/10 based on what we have seen to today's date. I think that it can only go up from here and I look forward to seeing how the game is going to evolve over the coming months.
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#312 Sep 28 2010 at 8:52 AM Rating: Excellent
I have to say, I've never in my life seen people try to excuse a game with the reason being 'its new'. That's usually the reason it should be BETTER and have MORE content than previous games. Stand on the shoulders of giants and all that, not reinvent the wheel every time. I can't even imagine if someone came out with some NES game and excused it with 'well the series is new, it'll get there with time'. Or in the auto industry. This car has 23 hp, but hey its new, it'll get there with updates.

Edited, Sep 28th 2010 7:52am by digitalcraft
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#313 Sep 28 2010 at 9:01 AM Rating: Decent
782 posts
I just dont think people are aware of how bad the UI is, its sloppy coding all round and it has nothing to do with the server lag.

It has EVERY thing to do with server lag. (Well, not really server lag, the servers are bundling the data and sending it just fine. It's actually intercontinental networking lag if you want to be really correct about it.)

Heres what happens:
  • Dialog needs to be shown.
  • Data for the dialog (level progress, skill points, inventory list, etc) is requested from the server.. because there is always going to be at least 100ms of lag between the US and JP the request takes an extra bit of time to get to the server.
  • The server gathers and packages the data to send back to the client... because there is always going to be at least 100ms of lag between the US and JP the packaged data takes an extra bit of time to get to the client.
  • The client draws the dialog filling in the placeholders with the values retrieved.

The problem is that absolutely none of the retrieved data is cached so every dialog make a request to the server for the required lists of information. This is all pretty evident based on how the dialogs are currently operating. (You can actually see this occuring in many instances when the dialog is finished drawing but waiting for a list, like your inventory or the stats on the atributes and stats page to fill in.)

Edited, Sep 28th 2010 10:07am by windexy
#314 Sep 28 2010 at 9:05 AM Rating: Decent
678 posts
There's a few issues that I find aggravating. The lack of being unable to organize my inventory. The lack of a decent way to sift through everyone's bazaar's in the Market Ward. The bug about "x is already engaged." etc. A lot of people are still loving the game obviously though. They're just not the ones posting.

Edited, Sep 28th 2010 11:06am by Philana
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#315 Sep 28 2010 at 10:13 AM Rating: Default
12 posts
Like any other newly released MMO, SE will need to do some patching is all to fix issues and maybe a few suggestions.

Otherwise, the game is good :) Just takes a little getting used to as it is something new.
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#316 Sep 28 2010 at 11:21 AM Rating: Excellent
26 posts
Having played FFXI, every thing about FFXIV gets inevitably compared.

I'm curious why FFXIV is considered a "new game", when FFXI was around to provide such a strong precedence to learn from.

I understand the need to create something new, something that people wouldn't label as "FFXI number 2 with better graphics", but some of the "innovations" in FFXIV are taking steps backwards.

We've got to distinguish what are basic things that should be kept untouched or could be further enhanced along the same line. Things such as enabling the use of arrow keys as camera shift, inventory sorting function, search function, party functions, proper chat functions, seeing party members on map, allowing expansion of chat log via keyboard... I could go on.

Can't the developers at least see that by removing these NECESSARY functions they are making FFXIV a worse game than FFXI in those aspects?
#317 Sep 28 2010 at 11:24 AM Rating: Default
82 posts
Forums are a place to whine and complain, nuff said.

You hear more negative than positive because those having fun are actively playing instead of *********
#318 Sep 28 2010 at 11:29 AM Rating: Excellent
1,636 posts
Inion wrote:
So they should hand everything to you and make it easy to get everything...youve gone WoW.

Edited, Sep 24th 2010 2:03pm by Inion

Want a playable game, go to wow.

#319 Sep 28 2010 at 12:12 PM Rating: Good
350 posts
Seems like it's designed for consoles so cant even right click stuff I heard. Makes some people stay far away from the game at least. And everything requiring multiple clicks, like crafting. Waste of time.
#320 Sep 28 2010 at 2:33 PM Rating: Good
46 posts
There's a reason why WOW has millions of players. Blizzard raised the bar for all MMO's. If it wasn't for them, we'd all be playing dreck like FFXIV. Did you look at the postings on You might not be able to read Japanese, but one star is still one star, and when you have hundreds agreeing with the one star reviews and only a few agreeing with the four and five star reviews, of which there are very few, it's clear that the Japanese players would agree that FFXIV is an insult to the FF fanbase. And I mean, c'mon, FF is practically a religion there.
#321 Sep 28 2010 at 5:10 PM Rating: Good
2,081 posts
All I can say is that after dishing out a nice sum of money for a new PC and a CE, I wish I would have waited until PS3 release. I can say honestly and unbiasedly in the face of all the fanbois, that this game is no where near ready to be released into the mass market. Basic functionality is holding this game back from even being enjoyable. I love FF and I purchase all of their games, but this release was months too premature. It's taken a major jump backwards from even FFXI, which is sad because with a few more months of development it could have been a epic release which would have blown the gaming world away. I probably will just allow my CE to sit on the shelf for a few months in hopes that SE gets their **** together and delivers what their fans have been aching for the past few years. I've never anticipated a release as much as this one, and it's really been a let down. Here's to hoping there is some major progress over the next few months.

#322 Oct 01 2010 at 9:29 PM Rating: Good
28 posts
So the graphics are awesome but other then that let's see what we have, the same boring leve's over and over again that you can only do every two days in the same area over and over again. Oh if you want to party with someone good luck no one talks to each other because the party system is so overly complicated no on uses it. This game has more people talking crap about it because its not a finished game, maybe when the Playstation version comes out but at this point I'm not holding my breath. If you haven't spent the money then don't, wait 6 months at least before even thinking about it!
#323 Oct 11 2010 at 2:53 AM Rating: Default
9 posts
The game has been out for a couple of weeks now, i think it came out on the 21's of last month, but i am a patient person, i have never had a game that i just got frustrated with and walked away....

well the times are changing, there are so many errors that are out there right now!

1) the DirectX problem, if you are one of the many who have this game you get a problem that says you don't have DirectX or it can not be found and your game will either randomly Shut off or if your in fullscreen it will close if you want to alt+tab

2)Error 3102 your playing the game and everything is going fine, then one minute everything stops moving and you get kicked from the game. not a problem, i don't mind restarting the game every now and then...but if your in the middle of a Levequest or in the middle of crafting the piece or quest becomes an instant fail. Oh and most of the time when you get kicked you have to wait about 30 min for the game to let you back in

3) going into active mode, if you are going to go into active mode, you need to have about 5 min to spare, so if you need to go to the bathroom or take a smoke break now is your chance

4)NO AUCTION HOUSE...enough said

5) when you respawn from death that is another time you can go to the bathroom or take a smoke break cause it will be about 5 min before you can move, there are times where my rebirth weakness wears off before i can start moving (rebirth is longer than 1 min)

6)stopping after a long run. when you go to a new side of town or to somewhere that you weren't really close to, you have to wait about a min or so for the NPC's to spawn and about another 2+ min for the players around you to spawn

7) can't see fellow party members on your map unless they are in your mini map

8)TAB=Epic FAIL when you are in a party and your party is in a fight with multiple creatures, when you kill one and want to go to another you will have to click tab so it will lock on you, your teammates, the random people 200ft away, the random enemies 300 ft away and then the enemy that is 3 inches in front of your face

9) the recipes- the way the games recipes system works is fine because you don't need to go find the recipe your character just knows it, but for example i want to create a new lvl 7 blacksmith tool and it's a lvl 5 recipe, i will need about 5 items which is fine except for the fact that one of them is i need to be a lvl 21 weaver in order to make the piece(they vendor some items but the piece i am looking for is not sold by vendors)

Most of these problems could of easily been avoided if they just added more worlds and more channels it's a quick fix to half of the biggest problems out there

oh and why would i pay 13 dollars a month for a game with all these errors
when i can go back to RunesofMagic and play it for free

Edited, Oct 11th 2010 5:07am by Lair1990
#324 Oct 11 2010 at 7:35 AM Rating: Decent
451 posts
You know, the graphics aren't really all that amazing tbh.

I mean, for MMO standards I guess, probably the best gfx in an mmo, but it's nothing revolurionary. Anyone thats a real gamer, and has played more than one game in the last 10 years has seen better graphics.
#325 Oct 11 2010 at 8:39 AM Rating: Default
7 posts
I love the game, the first few levels and learning how to do everything sucked...but once you get the hang of is a pretty **** good game. Still needs an auction house though.
#326 Oct 11 2010 at 9:06 AM Rating: Excellent
2 posts
Yes the game is that bad. Played FFXI since NA release and i've never been more disappointed in my life. It's obvious that no creativity or imagination went into making this game. Paid $80 for the most shallow MMO in existence.
#328 Oct 29 2010 at 11:53 AM Rating: Good
305 posts
Why are ppl comparing this game to WoW? WoW has been out for like 6 years? this game is 2 days since release....

To paraphrase newton "if i have seen so far, it is because i have stood on the shoulders of giants"

to paraphrase a SE developer (i forget his name, i think it is the lead designer) "I don't follow the mmo genre".

That says it all really.

#329 Oct 29 2010 at 12:57 PM Rating: Good
156 posts
The game is dull, everything is generic, its empty, i dislike crafting more now than i did before..... The game is not really a game. It is more like Second Life in a mmo format, without talking to different people beyond your linkshell.
You run around a world that is empty, kill farm animals and birds,get killed by anythign that actually looks cool, and yet people defend it, I guess there are more ********* than i thought in this world
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#330 Oct 29 2010 at 1:12 PM Rating: Good
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The more I think about it, I don't really think SE wanted to build something altogether different from any other mmo, to be innovative and ground-breaking and completely awesome. They would have stuck with and improved the basic functions that worked so well in FFXI if that were the case. I think they built the game around ways to combat RMT.

edit: So, exactly how far back in the forums is this thread buried? I went back 15 pages looking for it. I've always liked Alla's forums, I can understand their wanting to limit the multitudes of posts with repeat 'whining,' but this particular thread has a great many posts that were well-written and brought up a lot of issues players have. And it's still going. D for censorship.

Edited, Oct 29th 2010 4:23pm by Vorkosigan
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