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Final Fantasy XIV and the Minimum PCFollow

#1 Sep 03 2010 at 8:01 AM Rating: Excellent
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I have a PC nearly identical to the minimum requirements:

Core 2 Duo 1.86 E6300
2 GB RAM
Radeon 4670

I've been playing with the Open Beta and I'm pleasantly surprised on the playability so far. I do intend to build a new PC this winter, but I just haven't had the time to undertake that (no sense buying parts that I'm not going to have time to put together - last possible moment = best value).

So, intending to try to play FFXIV on a lower computer, I was extremely curious to try the beta. After all, it wouldn't make much sense to pre-order the premium collection if it was going to be unplayable until I built a new computer.

All-in-all, the performance has been to the degree that it's quite playable. I've been in some crowded areas and while there's obvious slowdown, it's a good deal more playable that I've found Whitegate at times or in the last stages of a campaign when you have 50 people on top of each other beating the **** out of the last mob.

Generally speaking, my framerates in Limsa have been in the 22-29 range, with a very occasional short (less than half a second) dip to the 18-21 range when I initially enter crowded areas. The graphics were turned down whenever possible - always a necessity when using software with requirements your computer barely meets.

Do I recommend this as an ideal setup? Of course not. You're paying a monthly fee, so if you have the opportunity, you might as well get as much eye candy as possible (it is still a beautiful game with graphic quality smushed down). I also expect it would run worse in the long-term as SE adds bloat. However, at least in my particular case, a minimum build yields play of the quality that it is fine for someone who wants to play XIV in the short-term, enabling people to time their PC purchases to maximize value rather than frantically putting together a build they don't want to do now just so that they can play XIV. In my case, I don't like building computers when the current socket is on its last legs because I find motherboard replacement to be really annoying.

I also would not recommend having a browser or any other software open. This may be inconvenient for some, but it's really a necessity for maximize performance at the low end. Personally, I always use my laptop for surfing the web and doing work rather than windower + other apps (I'm a sportswriter for a living and am frequently writing articles while playing). Of course, that may not be a feasible scenario for everyone.

For the purposes of this post, I did not overclock anything. The E6300 is a really easy chip to overclock; my chip runs extremely well overclocked to 2.5 with stock cooling and that's actually fairly conservative as some people have reported getting the E6300 1.86 up to the 3.0 range.

Your experience may vary, but to those wondering about low-end computers, it's definitely a good idea (if you haven't already figured it out) to try to get into the beta if you're currently not bothering out of despair due to low PC specs.

So, other low-end users, what has been your experience? The more we can share, the better an idea we can really get on what computer can do what so that we're not occasionally ping-ponged between the extremes of some people convinced that the benchmark is lying and they'll be able to play on a P4 and people who think it'll run terribly unless you have a triple CF 5870.

Edited, Sep 3rd 2010 10:09am by DSzymborski

Edited, Sep 3rd 2010 10:15am by DSzymborski
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#2 Sep 03 2010 at 8:05 AM Rating: Decent
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My computer is on the low-middle end and I would like to add that my performance is really good. I play at 1920x1080 with medium-ish settings and get 30 fps in combat. The only time i get dips in FPS is when travelling and the world is loading.
#3 Sep 03 2010 at 8:12 AM Rating: Good
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I've tried it out on a secondry computer, Geforce 8800 GTS, 2.2Ghz Core 2 Duo, 2GB RAM and the game doesn't run well at all. It's jerky and looks horrific...
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#4 Sep 03 2010 at 5:29 PM Rating: Decent
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What i have,

CPU- P4 3.0, shows 2 cores, 1 physical and one logical (IDK if this has something to do with it
being able to run or not)
ram- 2g ddr2 ram
Vid- nVidia GeForce 8500 GT 512 MB
MB- 945gct-m3

Its easily playable on half resolution, and lowest settings everywhere else. Some wait on
npc and player loadup, but i assume thats has a little to do with isp coupled with bad comp.

Now my Motherboard is weak, and wanted some advice. Ram is maxed on the board.
Vid was decent for wow and eq2, but i can tell its not goin to cut it for this game.

SO, would getting these 2 make a Big difference?

CPU- core 2 duo E7500.
Vid- nVIdia 9800 GT


This 200ish dollars is prob all ill be able to talk the wife out of atm, so it will have to do.

Better suggestions, and will it make a big difference to get these 2 simple upgrades?



#5 Sep 03 2010 at 6:11 PM Rating: Default
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Hmmmm....this gives me some hope. Been pricing some stuff today.

I DID find out I DO have the AM3 socket. I downloaded a program that helped me with that. But I'm still running a dual core. So NOW I'm back to my original idea of going with maybe the 4870 and upgrading the power supply. I can get upgraded for 200.00 bucks and be in the game until early 2011.
#6 Sep 03 2010 at 9:10 PM Rating: Default
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I scored an 1100 on the benchmark with my laptop and the game runs really good i have it pluged into my TV so i have 50" of awsomness.
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#7 Sep 03 2010 at 9:21 PM Rating: Decent
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I DID find out I DO have the AM3 socket. I downloaded a program that helped me with that. But I'm still running a dual core. So NOW I'm back to my original idea of going with maybe the 4870 and upgrading the power supply. I can get upgraded for 200.00 bucks and be in the game until early 2011


I'd go with at least a 5770, I have one, it was $180 when I bought it but now it's only $165. Good brand, too:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150447&Tpk=xfx%20radeon%20hd%205770%20juniper%20xt
#8 Sep 03 2010 at 9:46 PM Rating: Decent
DSzymborski wrote:
I have a PC nearly identical to the minimum requirements:

Core 2 Duo 1.86 E6300
2 GB RAM
Radeon 4670

I've been playing with the Open Beta and I'm pleasantly surprised on the playability so far. I do intend to build a new PC this winter, but I just haven't had the time to undertake that (no sense buying parts that I'm not going to have time to put together - last possible moment = best value).

So, intending to try to play FFXIV on a lower computer, I was extremely curious to try the beta. After all, it wouldn't make much sense to pre-order the premium collection if it was going to be unplayable until I built a new computer.

All-in-all, the performance has been to the degree that it's quite playable. I've been in some crowded areas and while there's obvious slowdown, it's a good deal more playable that I've found Whitegate at times or in the last stages of a campaign when you have 50 people on top of each other beating the **** out of the last mob.

Generally speaking, my framerates in Limsa have been in the 22-29 range, with a very occasional short (less than half a second) dip to the 18-21 range when I initially enter crowded areas. The graphics were turned down whenever possible - always a necessity when using software with requirements your computer barely meets.

Do I recommend this as an ideal setup? Of course not. You're paying a monthly fee, so if you have the opportunity, you might as well get as much eye candy as possible (it is still a beautiful game with graphic quality smushed down). I also expect it would run worse in the long-term as SE adds bloat. However, at least in my particular case, a minimum build yields play of the quality that it is fine for someone who wants to play XIV in the short-term, enabling people to time their PC purchases to maximize value rather than frantically putting together a build they don't want to do now just so that they can play XIV. In my case, I don't like building computers when the current socket is on its last legs because I find motherboard replacement to be really annoying.

I also would not recommend having a browser or any other software open. This may be inconvenient for some, but it's really a necessity for maximize performance at the low end. Personally, I always use my laptop for surfing the web and doing work rather than windower + other apps (I'm a sportswriter for a living and am frequently writing articles while playing). Of course, that may not be a feasible scenario for everyone.

For the purposes of this post, I did not overclock anything. The E6300 is a really easy chip to overclock; my chip runs extremely well overclocked to 2.5 with stock cooling and that's actually fairly conservative as some people have reported getting the E6300 1.86 up to the 3.0 range.

Your experience may vary, but to those wondering about low-end computers, it's definitely a good idea (if you haven't already figured it out) to try to get into the beta if you're currently not bothering out of despair due to low PC specs.

So, other low-end users, what has been your experience? The more we can share, the better an idea we can really get on what computer can do what so that we're not occasionally ping-ponged between the extremes of some people convinced that the benchmark is lying and they'll be able to play on a P4 and people who think it'll run terribly unless you have a triple CF 5870.

Edited, Sep 3rd 2010 10:09am by DSzymborski

Edited, Sep 3rd 2010 10:15am by DSzymborski


Before you get anyone's hopes up please state what settings and resolutions you are using. There's a big difference playing on a 1280x720 windowed resolution and playing on a 1920x1080 windowed resolution. Resolution and settings can either make or break the playability for many.
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#9 Sep 04 2010 at 11:46 AM Rating: Excellent
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Sorry, 1280 x 720. I should have stated that as it's not safe to assume - it didn't really cross my mind that someone would try to play FFXIV on a high resolution with a computer right at the minimum. But I guess some people would try.

Also, my testing only involved turning down the settings in-game. At that point, I had not noticed the FFXIV config, so those settings were initially at default. I was able to turn down a few of those settings and eke out even better performance at low resolution, but I was satisfied with my performance, so I've kept those above the minimums.

Edited, Sep 4th 2010 1:58pm by DSzymborski
#10 Sep 04 2010 at 12:11 PM Rating: Decent
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My duo core is at the bottom of system requirement, but it plays pretty well. It may not be as beautiful as it could be but definitely playable.
#11 Sep 04 2010 at 12:52 PM Rating: Good
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Yong, what's your video card?
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#12 Sep 04 2010 at 1:09 PM Rating: Decent
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Just out of curiosity, what did you score on the Benchmark DSzymbiorski? Around 1500 or?
#13 Sep 04 2010 at 1:34 PM Rating: Decent
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I have a Althlon II X4 620, 4gb RAM, Raedon 4670, and a 23' 1080p monitor.

Tried running at 1920x1080 with all graphics setting at a minimum and it was a slide show but looked amazing.

Tried 1680x1050 with all grpahics setting at minimum and it was almost playable still choppy and did not look very sharp.

Tried 1366x768 with all graphics settings at medium and it was playable but LOOKED LIKE CRAP!!!!

Sure a minimum spec computer will play it, but the game is not going to look very good imo.

IF I play this at launch I will be getting at least a Radeon 5850. But based on my beta experiences so far I may not be getting this. So far other than graphics I see no improvements over FFXI regarding interface, combat, usability, innovation. In fact the mouse lag is terrible.
#14 Sep 04 2010 at 2:01 PM Rating: Excellent
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Belcrono, I scored about 1600-1650. I could get it up to 1750-1800 if I was completely **** about making sure nothing was running in the background and a slight overclock, but I figured that I would be too lazy to do that every time I played the game.

As noted, I know not everybody is going to be as fortunate - there are some configurations that should be, on most games, better than mine, that appear to be having greater problems. I'm starting to wonder if ATI working a little better than nVidia in this case might be most evident down at the fringe where I am.
#15 Sep 04 2010 at 2:21 PM Rating: Good
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I have about the same specs as the OP.. Im wondering does anyone know some other things i can change outside of the game that could improve performance? Like options in the nvidia control panel or something? I know there has to be some others with average pc specs like mine who just want a little more playability xD
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#16 Sep 04 2010 at 3:21 PM Rating: Good
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Shred, most obvious ones are watching for background running crap and having card settings as much performance-rather-than-quality as possible.

Another issue is that everyone's tolerance for certain things is likely to differ. Bad graphics for one may be acceptable for another. For example, I probably have fairly high tolerance - after all, I recently finished a game of King's Quest III that took me 22 years (When I started the playthrough, I still had a CGA monitor).
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