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#1 Sep 04 2010 at 1:20 PM Rating: Good
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So I'm sitting here at work, and it made me start thinking about getting a laptop that can play FF14. Problem is the beefy system specs. I was poking around Best Buy, looking to see what they had for "gaming laptops", and I think every single one I saw didn't meet what S-E had listed for minimum requirements.

All said ~1.9 ghz CPUs with "turboboost" up to 2.8 ghz, or something. I assume that's probably okay. RAM, HDD speed, and all the rest of the easy requirements are fine. The main problem comes from the GPU. What sort of GPUs are you laptop owners running with FF14?

I figure a laptop that could run FF14 okay would be around the ~1500 mark, or at least ~1200+. And I'm not worried so much about price as I am just about being able to find something that can run it at preferably medium settings. I have a nice desktop to run things maxed, or close to it. I'm just looking for something to plop on the couch with, bring to work, or play from my bed upstairs.

Any suggestions?
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#2 Sep 04 2010 at 1:24 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm using a pretty high-end studio laptop since I'm an artist and game developer, but even that scores low on the benchmark.

Score: 1,700

Intel Core i7 620M 2.67GHz
1TB Hard Drive
8GB RAM
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650 1GB

Try to match that or better if you're getting a laptop.

Edit: Game actually runs fairly fine on mid settings though, except for UI lag which is inevitable anyway.

Edited, Sep 4th 2010 3:24pm by Rjain
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#3 Sep 04 2010 at 1:31 PM Rating: Good
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Based on my experience with a lot of laptop threads, I'm going to say that you probably won't hit "playable without a lot of lag, even on the lowest settings" under the $2000 pricepoint. $3000-4000 laptops are scoring in the 3000s on low res. You -might- be able to manage on a $1600-1800ish laptop if you turned everything down all the way as far as it will go, but I could be wrong.
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#4 Sep 04 2010 at 1:36 PM Rating: Decent
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You can spend around $700 if you want to run it on low, around $1200ish if you want to run it on med, $2000+ for high. Main issue is the video card with laptops. You'll probably want to aim for an Asus ROG laptop for low or med, or an alienware/sager|clevo laptop for high. Around your budget, you could get an MSI GT660 or Asus G73 or wait for the Asus G53 to come out if you want a 15".
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#5 Sep 04 2010 at 2:15 PM Rating: Good
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Rjain wrote:
I'm using a pretty high-end studio laptop since I'm an artist and game developer, but even that scores low on the benchmark.

Score: 1,700

Intel Core i7 620M 2.67GHz
1TB Hard Drive
8GB RAM
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650 1GB

Try to match that or better if you're getting a laptop.

Edit: Game actually runs fairly fine on mid settings though, except for UI lag which is inevitable anyway.

Edited, Sep 4th 2010 3:24pm by Rjain


Got that beat with a 2100 on Bench (1.3k on high), and running everything as is with no issues, 'cept AO, but I turned that off in CB3, don't know if it reset with OB (must be still off, heard it will hurt everyone bad, regardless of rig)... only the UI is laggy just like the responded post, but everyone including high powered desktops have that issue.


Intel i5 430M 2.27GHz turbo to 2.5 (unnoticed so far though)
500GB Hard Drive
4GB RAM
GeForce GTS 360m
Harmon/kardon stereo speakers

Laptop is a 18.4" screened Toshiba Qosmio X505-Q860 (yes, the screen is actually 18.4 diag), you can get for about $1k, and you can get even better models, such as i7s or w/e, highest I've seen is about $1.7k.... You can check QVC.com, they have a few models from time to time (and on payments too). Only numbers I've seen posted higher then mine is a brand spankin' new Alienware for more then double the cost for barely better score and some sick ASUS, which I know nothing about, they've gotten to 3k bench score, like 1.8k to my 1.3k on high. Either way, I have absolutely no issues, as the game runs beautifully and looks nice. If you plan on spending more then 1k, just make a desktop yourself or go to ibuypower.com or something.

Edit: Note on CPU/GPU, GPU bounces from 70% to 97% depending on whats going on in game, CPU isn't taxed over 50% ever as a whole, once in a while one of the 4 threads will bounce to 75% usage, but the other 3 stay under 25% if that happens, and game doesn't run CPU hotter then 143 degrees while laptop is fine on lap, and very quiet running still, even for its size, only notice it is hot when you actually take it off your lap and feel the air, lol.


Edited, Sep 4th 2010 4:21pm by Toryu
#6 Sep 04 2010 at 2:23 PM Rating: Decent
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I have an Asus G73 and it scored just over 3000 on the benchmark on low res. So far it has been fine running the game on medium settings with very little framerate lag, or high settings with occasional stuttering.
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#7 Sep 04 2010 at 2:29 PM Rating: Decent
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My wife has an ASUS G72GX we bought at Best Buy for $1000 that runs the game on default settings with the resolution at 1365x768 with the same framerates(somehow) that I get on my desktop. Here are specs:

ASUS G72GX-RBBX05

Windows 7 Home Premium
Intel Core 2 Duo P8700 @ 2.53Ghz
nVidia GTX 260M 1GB
17.3” Widescreen LCD 1600x900
6GB DDR2 RAM
500GB HDD
#8 Sep 04 2010 at 2:35 PM Rating: Decent
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Intel i5 430M 2.27GHz turbo to 2.5 (unnoticed so far though)
500GB Hard Drive
4GB RAM
GeForce GTS 360m
Harmon/kardon stereo speakers


The GPU is what exceeds mine (I think so anyway). My GPU is pretty middle-class so it really lowered the benchmark score; however, the CPU seems to actually make up for that in-game and there's not much of a difference.

The benchmark is a lie really.
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#9 Sep 04 2010 at 2:40 PM Rating: Good
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And there's the Asus comps I mentioned^^. What's your Bench at Brizz? not that it matters if the game runs smooth though. Supposedly lower cards from GeForce are better if they are GTX as opposed to GTS due to GTS being laptop versions, so I think your GTZ 260 beats my GTS 360 because of it.

Just remember OP, I run 18.3" , running FFXIV solidly in windowed (I do multitask alot, so no need to try full)lol, full keyboard including num pad. Wife is sick of her 17.3" Dell due to comp envy, but won't get what I got due to the red accents making it more guyish, unlike her pink Insperon of course.
#10 Sep 04 2010 at 2:43 PM Rating: Good
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Well, some of this is disheartening, but some of it is keeping me hopeful. I was really hoping I could just pop into Best Buy and pick something up that would run it, as I'm antsy and want to get something quick, rather than ordering from a specialty brand, like Alienware/Dell.

I wonder if I could bring the benchmark on a flash drive and have the Best Buy people test it out on various laptops for me.

*grins*

Has anyone scored lower than 1500 on the benchmark with a laptop and still ran the game okay? Even if settings had to be lowered some. Again, this won't be the machine I take pretty screenshots with. It's just something I want to be able to crash on the couch with and pet the puppies, while I grind out on sheep, or something!
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#11 Sep 04 2010 at 2:44 PM Rating: Good
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Rjain wrote:
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Intel i5 430M 2.27GHz turbo to 2.5 (unnoticed so far though)
500GB Hard Drive
4GB RAM
GeForce GTS 360m
Harmon/kardon stereo speakers


The GPU is what exceeds mine (I think so anyway). My GPU is pretty middle-class so it really lowered the benchmark score; however, the CPU seems to actually make up for that in-game and there's not much of a difference.

The benchmark is a lie really.


Yeah, mine is taxed to max during heavy scenes and benchmark, but calms down to 70%s quick... so yeah, the slightest tweaks in GPU makes the biggest difference I think, specially since your CPU is better then mine, clearly. I think they designed laptops to bottleneck on graphics end so you want to go buy a desktop in long run, especially if companies know FFXIV already requires top of the line, then they will slowly beef theirs up, but not fast enough to loose long run profit
#12 Sep 04 2010 at 2:55 PM Rating: Good
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Ridere, I just suggest you get something with a newer CPU and GPU, i5 or above in Intel (don't know the other brand too well, so new on that too) and a card in the 200, 300 or 400 series GeForce or that 57xx/58xx everyone talks about... as long as both are newer generation and definitely has dedicated graphics card, you should be good. Don't know too many prices, but those are what are making or breaking the game. And if you get intel, an i5 or above, then you will definitely have enough memory to complement, and I'm sure its true with computers with the other chip set. As for walking into Bestbuy.. maybe (heard bad things about the knowledge of staff though from these forums), but you never know... check dedicated comp stores like CompUSA too for comparison. Also check iBuypower.com and Newegg.com. You don't want something obsolete in a year or too, let alone price dropping just after you buy (mine actually dropped $300 on QVC, but I had time to adjust.. but missed a better one for the price I originally paid).
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