It's just a way of speaking & typing, dude -- Why argue semantics? You know exactly what I was addressing, yet you decided to instead do this?
Because semantics are important; semantics are the meaning behind the words one uses, and they define what sentences mean. You were using "largely" to try to make yourself seem reasonable when you weren't being reasonable; you implied with your language that you were waiting for something good when in fact you were making an attempt to suggest another person's problems with the game weren't valid as you had already decided it was good
. In other words, you were being patronizing and clearly had an agenda alternate to what your words suggested. That's a significant bit different than saying the experiences are subjective. If you truly thought so, you wouldn't be here arguing and would have answered my question, "Why play before it's good?" with a simple answer rather than using deceitful language, an obvious truism that was entirely unnecessary, to try to bolster your point.
I know experiences are entirely subjective. I typed "largely" because it's just one of my writing habits.
Once again, these are just nuances in the way that I write "casually."
Don't confuse "casually" with "poorly."
My computer runs FFXIV perfectly fine, I do not suffer any "slow downs" or "slow interfaces" or any those complaints that have been hitting the forums. Hey, some other people might--and that'll pretty much ruin their experience with the game. I don't know their individual tolerances, even.
The slow interface is verifiably not a client computer related problem; it is a result of interface actions being server side. The delay when selecting crafting materials, getting into crafting position, browsing through your inventory, etc. have next to nothing to do with one's computer specs - you'd be more likely to see slow actions in other places, such as entering combat, etc. if computer specs were the problem. However, you can see when you perform some interface actions that your latency bar will change color; that is the result of server delay, as very little processing/graphics occur when you click an item in your inventory or choose to "synthesize". Additionally, it is the only
problem of those I mentioned that could remotely be tied to client side processes (though incorrectly), so your reason for choosing that example is obvious.
Thusly, your point is moot. Saying that some people tolerate it and some don't doesn't really need explanation, as I said above (and you did, too, which makes it all the more odd that you said it again). Every time someone says they don't like the interface, you are not required to say, "well I do," and certainly shouldn't do so after saying "all experiences are subjective." If you truly believed that, you'd see people say so and be fine with it rather than having to try to argue or explain
your subjective opinion multiple times.
Yes--I do infact have higher tolerances for 'crap,' than what I'd suspect an average person would. What would appear to be a problem for someone else may not appear to be a problem for me. Should it be a problem for me because it's a problem for you?
No. Why would it be? Who said it should be? Judging from your responses, it seems like you have a problem with other peoples' perceptions of the game, not the other way around. When you implied (using "we're") that you thought the good stuff would come later, I asked "why not wait until it's good..." and you then stated that you think it's good. There wouldn't be any of this if you hadn't used deceptive language in the first place, nor if you didn't care what others thought because you recognized their opinions as subjective. I don't particularly care that you think it's good, and I have not argued that you shouldn't think it's good. I was asking why people who don't think it's good
as you had implied you thought it wasn't
why they would pay and play instead of waiting until it was good
. Apparently you think that means I'm saying you can't think it's good, which is stupid.
My post was an appeal to the reasonably well-minded individuals
I doubt that. You were attempting to appeal to like minded individuals, defining their "reasonableness" based on whether they agree with you.
to at least compare FFXIV's launch with FFXI's--to note the similarities and possibly gain an understanding of what might happen with FFXIV, that this quite possibly isn't the death knell of an MMO because it "has no content," or whatever else the seemingly persnickety individuals are throwing out as complaints.
Then you should have no problems with people who want to wait to play until after the good stuff arrives, but you clearly do
, as you demonstrate by having to explain, when someone says they don't, that you apparently still do like it.
Anyway, if you get this worked up over a forum post, then yes, I understand your position.
It's good that you admitted you don't understand my position, then, and that explains your need to feel like you had to explain yourself again
I'm not even going to bother with you any further, because this subjective 'experience' with you has led me to believe you're just an **** person.
Here's to hoping you can hold to your word! Edited, Sep 6th 2010 8:47pm by JDCyran