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#1 Sep 05 2010 at 2:54 PM Rating: Good
Tired of blowing up all of your mats? Sick of having to participate in a seemingly random botch up of guesses leading to the point where you still need 70% towards completion with only 8 durability to get it done? Try this:

When you fail an action, make your next action "Wait". Just once each time you fail. I went from about 70-80% failure rate to 10-20% just by using the Wait action after every time my previous action failed.

Now if only SE would step up and explain why tier 1 recipes require mats that are near unattainable at lower levels (looking at you, Fire Crystals) I'd be a happy camper.
#2 Sep 05 2010 at 2:55 PM Rating: Good
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I have 40 fire crystals. But I started in Ul'Dah.

Edited, Sep 5th 2010 4:55pm by Oenos
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#3 Sep 05 2010 at 2:59 PM Rating: Good
Oenos wrote:
I have 40 fire crystals. But I started in Ul'Dah.

I started in Gridania but quickly moved to Ul'Dah thinking there would be some benefit to having the blacksmithing/armorsmithing/gladiator guilds nearby. Even though the guilds were functionally useless to me, I stuck around the Ul'Dah area because I vastly preferred the terrain (open areas vs. narrow corridors), but despite having quested and otherwise slaughtered countless vile nasties, I didn't encounter my first fire crystal until I got to Limsa Lominsa and surrounding areas. And still, I've only ever had one (that I promptly used to blow up a copper nugget combine). Whether you get crystals or shards might be linked to your class rank or mob level, but it's odd that they would have something like that as a necessary component for one of the most basic blacksmithing/goldsmithing recipes you could think of.
#4 Sep 05 2010 at 3:01 PM Rating: Good
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I use wait after every action since it seems to help reduce the risk of an element going unstable, havnt seen it affect sucsess rates tho

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#5 Sep 05 2010 at 3:03 PM Rating: Decent
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I support this post. I learned this yesterday myself and it improved my success rate a lot.
#6 Sep 05 2010 at 3:07 PM Rating: Good
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I think it's the mobs I grind. I also have 999 fire shards. I probably have about 4-6 stacks of copper ore too.
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#7 Sep 05 2010 at 3:11 PM Rating: Good
xxAnikalxx wrote:
I use wait after every action since it seems to help reduce the risk of an element going unstable, havnt seen it affect sucsess rates tho

I was finding that before I started using the wait command, I'd fail once and then it would snowball. I would get less completion and more durability loss from one failure to the next, often to the point where a failure on a Standard action would give me 4% completion and 18-20 durability loss, and once the failures started it was rare to see success. Once I started waiting after every failure, I was recovering much better. I haven't had more than two failures in a row since I started using the Wait option, and I'm actually completing a lot of synthesis attempts with tons of durability left over.
#8 Sep 05 2010 at 3:19 PM Rating: Decent
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Make sure to watch the color of the orb!

Here's my process:
Orb is White/Gold: Rapid Synth
Orb is Flashing: Did you just fail? !!Wait!! Else: Standard Synth
Orb is Red: !!Wait!!

I haven't found any fire crystals, so I've just been buying the nuggets from vendors rather than trying to craft them.

And to all you naysayers: we are talking about Fire CRYSTALS not Fire Shards. As in the big crystals that rarely ever drop.
#9 Sep 05 2010 at 6:01 PM Rating: Good
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And here's my process:

New synth attempt? Rapid
White orb? Rapid
Yellow orb? Rapid
Red orb? Rapid
Failed a step? Rapid
Running out of durability? Rapid
Everything's going great? Rapid

Once I'm over 80% progress if I have a lot of durability left I might try a Bold, but if my durability goes under 30% I'm going Rapid all the way. At the white stage it will always give you more progress than the durability hit even if it fails. On yellow you'll still probably break even. On red if you have enough progress you'll still probably be able to Rapid all the way for the win. Basically if you just spam Rapid you'll probably at least make the item. I've never had Wait do anything at all for me.

There's not much finesse, but it works.
#10 Sep 05 2010 at 6:11 PM Rating: Decent
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You don't really see crystals that often until you get to level 10+.
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#11 Sep 05 2010 at 6:17 PM Rating: Good
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I've found that red is the time to use Bold - I haven't seen a fail when I've gotten a solid red and gone with the bold option.

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#12 Sep 05 2010 at 6:24 PM Rating: Good
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You use wait when the crystal becomes unstable. You will see it in your chat log when it happens. It usually happens after a failed attempt, which is why most people fail the process. If you try to craft with a destabilized crystal, you will fail.

Also, i think they set it up to be more of a world economy, rather than a local one. Now, you need mats from other territories, which will help the economy in the long run. It will start off slow, but know that you can level up in Ul'Dah, then head on over to LL to sell all the mats you collected.

Also .. Fire Flies in LL drop Fire crystals.

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