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#1 Sep 05 2010 at 7:59 PM Rating: Sub-Default
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So based on the last 3 days of playing this moderately ok game.. I have noticed one thing that blew my mind away completely...

THIS GAME IS MADE FOR THE CONSOLE.. THE PC IS THE PORT..

Believe it or not...

But I noticed you can't right click in the game(That is a pc feature)
You can't copy and paste (again a pc feature)
You have software mouses (because consoles don't have hardware mouses)
Only one chat channel.. (because console gamers won't be able to switch chat channels on the fly due to limited keys)

Regardless if the pS3 version is going to be release on march 2010 or not.. this game is indeed a console to pc port.. The evidence is as clear as day..

They made this game to work on the console.. and we the pc gamer gets the lower end of the stick.. with shoddy gameplay.. and rather clunky controls (if you don't own own a console)..

SO I ask you this.. What is the benefit of playing this on the pc than a console? You'll soon notice the answer is absolutely nothing...
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#2 Sep 05 2010 at 8:12 PM Rating: Decent
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nick2412 wrote:
So based on the last 3 days of playing this moderately ok game.. I have noticed one thing that blew my mind away completely...

THIS GAME IS MADE FOR THE CONSOLE.. THE PC IS THE PORT..

Believe it or not...

But I noticed you can't right click in the game(That is a pc feature)
You can't copy and paste (again a pc feature)
You have software mouses (because consoles don't have hardware mouses)
Only one chat channel.. (because console gamers won't be able to switch chat channels on the fly due to limited keys)

Regardless if the pS3 version is going to be release on march 2010 or not.. this game is indeed a console to pc port.. The evidence is as clear as day..

They made this game to work on the console.. and we the pc gamer gets the lower end of the stick.. with shoddy gameplay.. and rather clunky controls (if you don't own own a console)..

SO I ask you this.. What is the benefit of playing this on the pc than a console? You'll soon notice the answer is absolutely nothing...


While I dont completely agree with you, I will have to end up playing at PS3 release. I thought my computer would be able to play it at least on the lowest settings but that's not even helping. I can play most other games on AT least med-high settings. I've done everything from updating drivers, to defrag, killing processes, everything I can think of, but this game just isnt meant to run on my computer I guess. It bombed the benchmark and very low fps even in remote locations.
#3 Sep 05 2010 at 8:15 PM Rating: Excellent
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nick2412 wrote:
SO I ask you this.. What is the benefit of playing this on the pc than a console?


The fact that you can play in September instead of waiting another 6 months for the PS3 release.
#4 Sep 05 2010 at 8:15 PM Rating: Decent
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the game was really created for PC and ported to playstation 3 lol
since it easyer to port PC to other consule(x360) then PS3 to PC & other consule

one of the biggest mistake they did with FF11 was that they created it for playstation 2 then ported it to PC; which limited the PC ver. alot so this time around they created it for the PC and ported it to the ps3


the game was created with gamepad as the main way of controlling it not keyboard/mouse sorry but maybe they will add fix it if enought ppl damange it

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#5 Sep 05 2010 at 9:01 PM Rating: Default
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So based on the last 3 days of playing this moderately ok game.. I have noticed one thing that blew my mind away completely...

THIS GAME IS MADE FOR THE CONSOLE.. THE PC IS THE PORT..


Oh god, you crying about the differences between PC and Console again? Go back to wow.



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But I noticed you can't right click in the game(That is a pc feature)

That's funny...I hold my right click to move my camera when im not using a controller.

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You can't copy and paste (again a pc feature)

That's funny, I copy and paste all the time.

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You have software mouses (because consoles don't have hardware mouses)

This was to prevent hackers from making automated farming programs. Considering you dont even need a mouse to play this game, and I recommend NOT using a mouse, this makes complete sense. If you choose not to adjust that's your problem.

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Only one chat channel.. (because console gamers won't be able to switch chat channels on the fly due to limited keys)

Weird, i got multiple chat channels.

#6 Sep 05 2010 at 9:10 PM Rating: Default
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It's not a port. It's a cross platform game that is built around using a controller to play. In no way does a game being built around using a controller mean it's a console port. You seem to be confusing a "console port" with a "game built around a controller".

It's a "cross platform" game...Meaning it's built from the get go with both console and pc in mind.
#7 Sep 05 2010 at 9:10 PM Rating: Good
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That's funny...I hold my right click to move my camera when im not using a controller.


You can DO that now!?

Cool!

How about Third-Person view? Did they improve that any? Does zooming closer to your character skew the view distance so that it looks like your character is running in place like FFXI, or does it work like WoW's third-person view?

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Edited, Sep 5th 2010 11:10pm by Lyrailis
#8 Sep 05 2010 at 9:13 PM Rating: Good
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I just wanted to add that copy/paste works perfectly fine in game. I've been copying the recipes I get from doing leves.
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#9 Sep 05 2010 at 9:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Hmm, as far as i know the 1st person view is the same as FFXI. Not sure what you mean though.

And yes you can use mouse for camera control by holding right click. But the mouse is very laggy. It's ONLY good for camera control and nothing else. Well i also use it to copy and paste stuff. But I still use a controller for the most part. I only use the mouse for crafting/buying/selling/copy/paste. Outside of that it's garbage.
#10 Sep 05 2010 at 9:18 PM Rating: Decent
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Yep, i copy and paste macros i want moved.

But to some people, if they dont know how to do it, it must not be possible lol.
#11 Sep 05 2010 at 9:33 PM Rating: Good
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THIS GAME IS MADE FOR THE CONSOLE.. THE PC IS THE PORT..


well, you got the first half right. It was designed on PC specifically for consoles, and a bare bones version is being released for PC at the end of the month.

Japanese play consoles only, apparently.
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#12 Sep 05 2010 at 9:47 PM Rating: Decent
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nick2412 wrote:

But I noticed you can't right click in the game(That is a pc feature)
You can't copy and paste (again a pc feature)
You have software mouses (because consoles don't have hardware mouses)
Only one chat channel.. (because console gamers won't be able to switch chat channels on the fly due to limited keys)


1) not proof
2) yes you can, make a macro...
3) relax
4) /say /party /shout /linkshell 1 - 8.. Also FFXI was a console game and had chat channels, people use keyboards on those crazy consoles...
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#13 Sep 05 2010 at 9:49 PM Rating: Good
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Japanese play consoles only, apparently.


Which explains why 99% of all of these awesome PC games come from non-Japanese (usually USA) game developers, lol.

Are there any good Japanese PC games out there, other than a few ports of console games here and there?

I know there's the YS3 remake (I don't recall that being released on console, surprises the heck out of me), any others?

I always wondered why they don't like the PC much... it has been, and always will be, vastly superior once they got into the Pentiums and up. A PC can be upgraded for fairly cheap. A Console can't. PC HDDs are much cheaper than console HDDs -- you don't have to worry about storage capacity. A PC is cheap and easy to repair, a console isn't.

yadda yadda
#14 Sep 05 2010 at 10:22 PM Rating: Default
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when i play FFXI i use a keyboard for some stuff but i use the controller for 99% of the game. I really only use the keyboard for chating writing macros and a liitle bit of ther stuff
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