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#102 Sep 06 2010 at 6:19 PM Rating: Good
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Beside it take some time to reallocate the stat I can't think any reason to have a 2nd char beside aesthetic reason, which "could be solved" by 3rd party program if the case is similar to FFXI


True, but this does nothing to solve the issues of 'How many people can I trick into propositioning me with *** as a Mithra?' or 'I wonder how it's like to be the **** of the fat jokes Galka get rather than the one cracking them?'
#103 Sep 06 2010 at 6:26 PM Rating: Good
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My next question would be... if you have two actual characters (main and one you pay $3/month to have) would you actually get two free retainers (one per character)... or would your first character get the free one and the $3/month character have to pay for an extra one?

Oh, and since I have been living under a rock for like a year... is the subscription fee $12.95/month, or $14.95/month? Or something else?


Pretty sure each character would come with the retainer so you would be paying 15.95/month for 2 characters/2 retainers. I'm not 100% on the 2nd character coming with a retainer, but I don't see why it wouldn't. Basic sub is 12.95 + the 3 for the 2nd character

Edit - 12.99 to be exact = P

Edited, Sep 6th 2010 8:28pm by TwistedOwl
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#104 Sep 06 2010 at 6:44 PM Rating: Decent
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I have refrained from posting to this thread because it isn't a big deal to me personally. What annoys me though is that when someone makes an argument against the cry-fest I see on practically every thread now, they get called a fanboy. Some of you need to realize that not everyone else shares your opinions. That doesn't make either of you right or wrong, it just makes you different, and thats ok. Let's start acting like adults instead of bickering like children please.
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#105 Oct 06 2010 at 10:40 AM Rating: Decent
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You *should* pay $3 per extra playable character if you feel the need to play more than one character on the same account, doesn't mean you have to. I will probably be paying $3 for 3 extra Retainers rather than 1 extra playable toon. Like XI, there is absolutely no need to have more than 1 playable character on the same account... this game will about leveling more than one job to take the best abilities to build your own. But again, you don;t have to pay an extra $3 if you don;t want the extra toon, can't see where you're having the hard time there understanding that. It's your choice. the initial 12.99 includes one playable character plus 1 retainer... thats like 2 XI characters since everything above the first one was usually a mule.

And no one cares if you cancel your pre-order. SE doesn't, forum posters don't. If you did, I really think you'll be missing out on a good game, anyone who was around XI from release on can tell you these OB issues will probably be cleared up. If you cancelled, there's nothing at all for you to complain about.

Cheers, I'm sure you'll still be there for release, usually people like you are. We stomp our feet, cancel pre-orders, then buy retail.


Alright. I understand where you are coming from, and part of me agrees, but honestly, what are we paying the subscription fee for, then? I don't think that the idea that "you don't need to have more than one character" is justification to charge more. So maybe you can job switch and have your one main character, but what if someone wants to be a different race? I haven't played this game yet, but aren't there specific racial differences and/or quests? If not, then never mind, but for someone who hasn't figured this out, the idea of sinking all of your time into one character without knowing what race/class you prefer seems disconcerting. I can see your response being "well fine, it is completely YOUR choice to pay the extra three..." and I immediately respond "NO! no no no no, wait a second..."

I would still like to hear your reason for the statement that "You *Should* per extra playable character if you feel the need to play more than one character on the same account." WHY!!?? There is no reason beyond "nickling and diming" your fan base. You can sit there and tell me that you only need one character but that does NOT give reason for the $3.00 fee's presence. If the character creation limit was 2 or 3, and THEN you start paying extra, then this would be a different story, but 1? Boy, you better know EXACTLY what you are doing when you create your character or you are screwed.

It's like buying a $10 membership to a fancy restaurant to get the food free, but you get in just to find out that their only free dish is a turkey sandwich with a baked potato and peas. It may be a very nice meal, and would be very nutritious AND delicious, but wouldn't it be nice to try the ham? "You want ham, sir? Oh, that's $3.00!" Pretty ridicules, right?

Nickle and dime... Nickle and dime...

Edited, Oct 6th 2010 12:44pm by Dorkenmore
#106 Oct 06 2010 at 10:57 AM Rating: Decent
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Nice job rezzing this thread from the dead!

Characters are cosmetic only and serve no other purpose. If anything, you pay more to roll on separate servers to play with friends and even then if you decide to play with them full time you can turn off the first toon basically putting it to 'sleep'.
#107 Oct 06 2010 at 12:48 PM Rating: Decent
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Characters are cosmetic only and serve no other purpose. If anything, you pay more to roll on separate servers to play with friends and even then if you decide to play with them full time you can turn off the first toon basically putting it to 'sleep'.


What do you mean?
#108 Oct 06 2010 at 1:57 PM Rating: Good
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keyven wrote:
So can someone explain to me how im supposed to play all the classes on one character? So Say I play melee for a long time, i have my physical stats all pimped out and stuff. Then i decided, hey i want to be a mage. Oh noes! look at my stats i got so much strength dex vitality but no intelligence mind or piety. What would i do?



Every time you equip a different weapon, your class changes. So in essence your character has access to all class.
Your stats can be re-distributed. IT would take a couple hours to do it, but eventually you can refocus your stat into a mage class.

One thing to note, is that when you change class from your high level melee, your physical level will be high, even when your mage rank is low.

I am Rank 13 THM and Physical Level 20 Player, if i change to any other melee class which I have not touched, you will be CON 1, but sty PHY 20. And when you try to fight low level mobs to skill up your class rank, the mobs will have hard time hitting and damaging you.
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#109 Oct 06 2010 at 6:39 PM Rating: Decent
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So, they previously stated that you would get 1 character slot for free, but now you don't? Cause I had to pay to get a slot for my first character.
#110 Oct 06 2010 at 6:44 PM Rating: Excellent
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LifebloodAOTH wrote:
So, they previously stated that you would get 1 character slot for free, but now you don't? Cause I had to pay to get a slot for my first character.


Not quite... the total price for a month's subscription with a character is still 12.99

They've just decided to set it up so that the character slot costs 3.00 while the account itself costs 9.99

It's exactly the same thing
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#111 Oct 06 2010 at 7:44 PM Rating: Good
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This is the straw that broke the camel's back.
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#112 Oct 06 2010 at 7:46 PM Rating: Excellent
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This is the straw that broke the camel's back.


What is?
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#113 Oct 06 2010 at 8:30 PM Rating: Default
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Ok so you are taking this game seriously if you need more than one character, rite?
That mean's you will be spending alot of your time playing it, rite?
You should complain about paying $40 per month just to play a game, to the cable company?
If you have lower speed than cable here is the complain that this game is laggy thread.
it's $3, get over.
#114 Oct 06 2010 at 9:31 PM Rating: Decent
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Just a quick note about the stat reallocation argument.

Using the reset button isn't the only way to reallocate your points. Take a look at the passive abilities that all classes can earn through spending guild points. For instance, MRD can buy an ability that, when equipped, turns 2 points of STR into 2 points of Mind. Gladiator also can buy a similar ability. If you equip both of them, that's 4 points of STR put into 4 of Mind. And that's the weakest ability that you can buy. At higher levels you can buy, I believe, an ability that redistributes upwards of 8 points of STR into MIND.

That's how we are able to be both casters and melee classes on one character. Your main is a Gladiator and want to play a caster for a while? Switch to the caster and set the stat distribution abilities so that you have more INT/MND/PTY.

As far as the whole on-topic argument is concerned I have only one thing to say:

Meh.

#115 Oct 06 2010 at 9:34 PM Rating: Decent
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Problem is, i can't seems to buy any retainer!

I dont mind paying the $1 extra for a retainer but at least allow me to do so. Not like announcing but restricting us from buying.
#116 Oct 07 2010 at 3:28 PM Rating: Decent
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I think I might have mistaken the idea of the $3 dollar fee for another character. Is it a $3 dollar one-time purchase for another character slot, or $3 per month extra?
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