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#1 Sep 06 2010 at 6:03 AM Rating: Good
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I know questions about computers are exhausted on these forums so I apologize before hand.

I think a lot of us can agree that building our own PC is much better than the pre-built ones but right now with my health and stress I'm not going to be able to go down this route at this given time, so my only option right now is to get a pre-built within the 1k range. I know it doesn't leave me with much options but its what I have to work with.

I wouldn't mind getting a machine that I can upgrade on my own in the near future. So i have found a few machines on newegg.com . if anyone would be willing to take a glance and give me some opinions/advice on which I should go with (even if you know one that is not listed and would be better) I would really appreciate it =)

iBUYPOWER Gamer Extreme 947i Intel Core i7
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227243

iBUYPOWER Gamer Power 549D3 Athlon II X4 635(2.9GHz)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227274

iBUYPOWER Gamer Extreme 542Q6 Phenom II X6 1055T(2.8GHz)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227274

what do you guys think? I just dont wanna dump my money into something and a few months regret it. Thanks for reading this and for your time =)
#2 Sep 06 2010 at 6:14 AM Rating: Good
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If you have a computer that can run FFXIV reasonably well at 720, or whatever resolution, I'd suggest you do that.

Both Intel and AMD are going through some pretty significant tech refreshes next year; it might be better to wait until their new stuff is out.

#3 Sep 06 2010 at 6:23 AM Rating: Decent
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Hey ghosthacked thanks for the reply. my current desktop is not gonna be able to play FFXIV alot of things would need to be upgraded and I was told it wouldnt be worth it to be honest. thing is a hunk of junk if you ask me heh.
#4 Sep 06 2010 at 6:26 AM Rating: Decent
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I can tell you it's a lot about video card. I swapped a gtx260 for a GTX 470 yesterday, and it make a huge difference. Frys has a smoking deal, $235 for a gtx 470 w/ 1200mb ram on it.
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#5 Sep 06 2010 at 7:23 AM Rating: Decent
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right now my current desktop system build is this

AMD Athlon 64x2 dual core processor 3800+
2 gig DDR2 Ram (my motherboard will only support another Gig)
300W PSU
Radeon X700 series (no laughing aloud lol)

Edited, Sep 6th 2010 9:24am by zork81
#6 Sep 06 2010 at 7:33 AM Rating: Decent
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Trust me building a PC isn't very stressful at all. I'm currently playing on my first build I made about a year ago. I had no knowledge of building computers when I made it. I figured out everything by opening up the pages for the hardware and googling about the different specs, and browsing tech forums. It's a lot easier than it's made out to be.
#7 Sep 06 2010 at 8:17 AM Rating: Decent
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Building a PC is not hard at all. There are many great videos, etc for first time builders that can walk even the most copmuter challenged individuals through the process. As far as Ibuypower PC's, I was leaning really strong towards one of their systems that you can configure online. I read many many really awful reviews about them and their customer service and I decided to build my own, and Im glad I did. The PC im running the beta on runs it at max settings just fine.

AMD Phenom II X4-965 O/C'ed to 3.8 GHz
XFX Radeon HD5870 2GB
4 GB G-Skill Ripjaws DDR3-1600 RAM 7-7-7-24
ASUS M4A89GTD Pro USB3/SATA3 Motherboard
Cooler Master HAF-922 Case
OCZ Vertex 60GB SSD
1TB Seagate SATA3 HDD
Corasir TX650 Power Suppy
Arctic Freezer Pro 7 CPU Cooler.

All this cost me about $1500 from newegg.com Hopefully, it will last me at least 3-5 years before I'll need to upgrade again. Fortunatley, the board that I chose will accept the new AMD Bulldozer chips when they come out.
#8 Sep 06 2010 at 9:03 AM Rating: Decent
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AMD Phenom II X4-965 O/C'ed to 3.8 GHz
XFX Radeon HD5870 2GB
4 GB G-Skill Ripjaws DDR3-1600 RAM 7-7-7-24
ASUS M4A89GTD Pro USB3/SATA3 Motherboard
Cooler Master HAF-922 Case
OCZ Vertex 60GB SSD
1TB Seagate SATA3 HDD
Corasir TX650 Power Suppy
Arctic Freezer Pro 7 CPU Cooler.


If you want a cheaper build than this that runs it decently this is what I have, it runs smoothly in windowed at 1440x900.

XFX Radeon HD5770 1GB Juniper XT Edition
4GB G. Skill PC2 8500 DDR2 1066 (5-5-5-15)
Gigabyte GA-MA770-UD3 Motherboard
Raidmax Smilodon Case
500GB Western Digital Caviar 7200 RPM SATA 3 HDD
SIGMA Monster SP650C 650 Watt PSU (Actually recommend getting the biggest Wattage PSU you can for upgradability, upset now that I want to upgrade again I need to get a new PSU first =P)
#9 Sep 06 2010 at 9:57 AM Rating: Decent
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Personally I would be looking at the graphics card, CPU are usually pretty good now a days and if you can find a computer with a good graphics card then it usually has a good CPU.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html

this list is of mobile GPUs but it is pretty relevant.

Also just for my opinion, i would not go much past #30 on the list otherwise you would just want to upgrade sooner. Also the 5770 > 250


Edited, Sep 6th 2010 12:02pm by Murmur95
#10 Sep 07 2010 at 7:58 AM Rating: Decent
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well in the end of it all I decided to just build my own.

I was reading alot of reviews from Ibuypower and it really seems that the majority of the ppl who buy stuff from them really do have problems such as bad components, things rattling in the case, connections that were never made etc etc.
#11 Sep 07 2010 at 8:25 AM Rating: Decent
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I can tell you it's a lot about video card. I swapped a gtx260 for a GTX 470 yesterday, and it make a huge difference. Frys has a smoking deal, $235 for a gtx 470 w/ 1200mb ram on it.

Dayum! My Palit GTX 470 cost me $300.00. Smiley: glare
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#12 Sep 07 2010 at 10:14 AM Rating: Decent
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Putting together a LEGO set is more involved than putting together a PC. And I started putting LEGO sets together when I was like, 6. We have a sticky dedicated to helping you find exactly what you want for whatever price range you have, so I'd highly recommend that. The best part about building your own is that not only will you get some valuable experience and knowledge as well as save a few hundred dollars, but you'll be getting precisely what you want. Each component will be exactly what you're looking for, rather than having one or two things you like and several that you'll just tolerate from a prebuilt.

If you just cannot fathom putting together a PC, you'll need to look at two things in a prebuilt: Processor and Graphics card. The game is very CPU driven unless you're at very high resolution/settings, so try to not cut corners there if at all possible. The easiest way to do it would be to come up with a budget, then think of either a processor or a GPU that you'd like to have, and filter down the prebuilt computers based on that. i.e.: Say you want an i7-950 since they just dropped in price, filter out all prebuilt PCs with an i7-950 that are within your budget, then find the one with the best GPU (will likely have lower RAM and smaller HDDs to compensate to help keep the price down, but as long as you have 4 GB RAM and 320-500 GB HDD you're fine).

The i7 PC you linked is a decent PC for the price. The GPU could stand to see an improvement, so you might want to replace it soon down the road, but it will work. The PSU is adequate though probably just an off-brand, but that's what you get for buying a prebuilt. It should handle FFXIV fairly well, which means that it will handle just about anything currently on the market as well.
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#13 Sep 07 2010 at 1:15 PM Rating: Decent
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Core2Duo E4400 OC'd to 2.93 ghz on stock cooling, in a crappy tight case.
4GB DDR2 800
Nvidia GTX 250 256MB (which is effectively a 9800 btw)
600W PSU, nothing fancy.
1 GB WD SATA6G (running at 3G due to MB)
WIN 7 Home 64bit

Benchmark ~2400. In practice beta runs great, full screen with default settings, looks fantastic and only have the very rare 1/2 second slowdown in congested areas when teleporting in etc, which is expected on any machine.

As I've said before, you do NOT need a beast of a machine to run this. A mid range machine will run this game just fine.
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