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#1 Sep 06 2010 at 3:27 PM Rating: Decent
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I have a GTX 460 1GB and a capable Hard Drive (500 GB SATA 3G (3.0 Gb/sec), 7200 rpm). I now have around $400 to spend on the rest.


A few cool people on the board have made some suggestions on what to get next.

Processor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115222

Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131623

PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371015

RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231393 x2


What do you think?

Edited, Sep 6th 2010 5:33pm by stuck
#2 Sep 06 2010 at 3:40 PM Rating: Decent
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What else do you have right now? CPU? Motherboard? Ram?

Personaly I wouldn't go for a Dual-Core CPU especialy if you planning to play FFXIV.
Quad-Core or bust IMHO.
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#3 Sep 06 2010 at 3:43 PM Rating: Decent
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This is what I'm currently using http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01527426&cc=us&dlc=en&lc=en

As for the Quad Core.. how would something like this fare? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115207&cm_re=intel_quad_core_processor-_-19-115-207-_-Product

Would that be compatible with everything else on the list?

Edited, Sep 6th 2010 5:47pm by stuck
#4 Sep 06 2010 at 3:53 PM Rating: Decent
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That's a really tight budget for putting a PC together, don't expect a miracle. With an extra $100-$150 you can put together a drastically more powerful PC.
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#5 Sep 06 2010 at 3:57 PM Rating: Decent
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Not expecting a miracle, just something to run the game adequately for now. I'll be making upgrades over time.
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Motherboard: $100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131398&cm_re=asus_m4a785td-v_evo-_-13-131-398-_-Product
RAM: $84 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231274&cm_re=ripjaws_1333-_-20-231-274-_-Product
Processor: $140 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103809&cm_re=phenom_II_X4-_-19-103-809-_-Product
Power Supply: $80 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371015&cm_re=650W_Antec-_-17-371-015-_-Product

Total is $404. (Insert joke here)

Edited, Sep 6th 2010 6:05pm by Mikhalia
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Where are you going to find that much money? (ba-dum-tish)
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Mikhalia posted a rather solid build, but a 650W power supply is overkill for anything like what you're making.

Also, don't for go for a socket 775 CPU like you linked in your second post, it's an old socket that really isn't standard anymore. The i3 isn't terrible, but unless you're going to dish out the cash for a i5 then your best bang for your buck would be in the AMD range. Again, Mikhlia's suggestion is pretty much what you should be looking at (unless you can find a more economical powersupply).
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#9 Sep 06 2010 at 4:37 PM Rating: Decent
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Thanks amigos.
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The MoBo Mikhalia linked is only available as part of a combo special..

Will this one work? If not could someone recommend one that would?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131651

Sorry, my knowledge on the subject isn't great and I want to make sure everything's compatible.

Edited, Sep 6th 2010 8:05pm by stuck
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Bump :D
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Mikhalia posted a rather solid build, but a 650W power supply is overkill for anything like what you're making.


You always want an overkill PSU, that way if you ever want to upgrade more you don't need to fork out more cash to upgrade it again. I'm sitting at this dilemma right now and I have a 650W PSU. Of course I don't really need better hardware, I just want it lol.

I would definitely go with a quad-core processor, dual-core is practically obsolete now that six-core processors are hitting the market.

For the RAM it would really be better to get something with some kind of heatsink on it, the lower the temperatures on your computer the longer it will last.
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Just ordered those 4 pieces. Thanks a lot for the help! All that's left now is a case and I'm good to go.

Edited, Sep 6th 2010 10:53pm by stuck
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WTF! Why are those ripjaws less than my DDR2 G. Skill RAM?!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231166

Also I'm ****** because that DDR2 RAM I linked was $54.99 when I bought it last year and now that I want to upgrade to 8GB it's doubled in price. Now I gotta wait and see if it goes back down.

EDIT: Actually their timings are worse. I'm pretty sure it's the lower numbers the better for timing...


Edited, Sep 7th 2010 12:05am by BRizzl3
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stuck wrote:
The MoBo Mikhalia linked is only available as part of a combo special..

Will this one work? If not could someone recommend one that would?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131651

Sorry, my knowledge on the subject isn't great and I want to make sure everything's compatible.

Edited, Sep 6th 2010 8:05pm by stuck


Sorry for the late reply; yeah, that board would be fine. I didn't notice the one I linked was only available through a combo. My apologies.
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#17 Sep 06 2010 at 10:23 PM Rating: Good
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Mikhalia posted a rather solid build, but a 650W power supply is overkill for anything like what you're making.


You always want an overkill PSU, that way if you ever want to upgrade more you don't need to fork out more cash to upgrade it again. I'm sitting at this dilemma right now and I have a 650W PSU. Of course I don't really need better hardware, I just want it lol.

I would definitely go with a quad-core processor, dual-core is practically obsolete now that six-core processors are hitting the market.

For the RAM it would really be better to get something with some kind of heatsink on it, the lower the temperatures on your computer the longer it will last.


1) Yeah, go for the overkill. Figure out what the minimum PSU you will want is, and then add 150-200 to that.

Personal experience: My fiancee is running a P4 HT 3.0 with a Radeon 5770 on a 450W PSU, or rather she -was- and it's kinda shaky and I'm trying to replace it with a 650 ASAP. Maybe a 550W would be fine but I really wouldn't advise any lower than that. The thing about PSUs is, you don't want to run them at max load; you want to overshoot that.

2) At this point in time, I would never advise a gamer to buy anything less than a quad core, ever. You probably don't need a hexacore (although they are nice) but I'd never ever suggest buying a -new- dual core.
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What about the video card?
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I thought of it first:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20
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EDIT: Actually their timings are worse. I'm pretty sure it's the lower numbers the better for timing...


DDR3 timing is always going to be slower than DDR2, it's apples and oranges. DDR3 can move more data at a faster rate. DDR2 is falling out of favor and becoming more rare. The prices will only continue to climb.

Good DDR3 timings are going to be like 7,8,9-ish, that's terrible for DDR2, but good for DDR3. Price is lower due to it being actively manufactured, and high supply. Same goes for GPU's, I bought 2 cards last summer for like $150 each. I wanted a 3rd card for Tri-SLI and ended up paying like $250-ish just because they stopped making my particular card.

Ripjaws are badass. Great for the money too.
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#21 Sep 06 2010 at 11:38 PM Rating: Default
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@lobivopis

Video card is a GTX 460.

Edited, Sep 7th 2010 1:38am by stuck
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EDIT: Actually their timings are worse. I'm pretty sure it's the lower numbers the better for timing...


DDR3 timing is always going to be slower than DDR2, it's apples and oranges. DDR3 can move more data at a faster rate. DDR2 is falling out of favor and becoming more rare. The prices will only continue to climb.

Good DDR3 timings are going to be like 7,8,9-ish, that's terrible for DDR2, but good for DDR3. Price is lower due to it being actively manufactured, and high supply. Same goes for GPU's, I bought 2 cards last summer for like $150 each. I wanted a 3rd card for Tri-SLI and ended up paying like $250-ish just because they stopped making my particular card.

Ripjaws are badass. Great for the money too.


The Gskill 1.35v ECO is pretty good too, and great for Lynnfield processors (according to Intel 1.55v or less is best and 1.6v is on the edge of what's safe for Lynnfield) You can run that memory at 1.35v to 1.6v with no problems, although if you have 8 gigs you might need to bump it up to 1.4v.


The difference between 7-7-7 and 9-9-9 DDR3 is around 1% speed difference. Not worth the extra money.

Edited, Sep 7th 2010 3:04am by Lobivopis
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The main screen resolution for "FINAL FANTASY XI" is dependent on the "Overlay Graphics Resolution" setting.
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I thought of it first:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20
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