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#1 Sep 07 2010 at 2:47 PM Rating: Good
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Hey so I just read in a random forum that SE allegedly said that the normal edition goggles will only work for a short time. But the person didn't supply a link when asked for proof they ever said this.

I'm on the fence now about which package to get, the helm wins if the goggles will be deactivated at lvl 10~ after 1 week or something.

Anyone seen where they ever said something like this?


Edited, Sep 7th 2010 4:49pm by RattyBatty
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#2 Sep 07 2010 at 2:50 PM Rating: Decent
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Why wouldn't they? I don't see any reason for people who get the crappy version of the game to get better skillup rates for their entire gameplay lifetime.
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#3 Sep 07 2010 at 2:51 PM Rating: Default
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That would be the most maddening thing if true. Lets not even talk about it.
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It was from an interview, I believe, and the comment was along the lines of "They will only be useful to a certain point." The most likely scenario is that they will function to a certain rank, probably on all jobs. Maybe 10, maybe 20, maybe 5. The exact details are unknown at this time.
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#5 Sep 07 2010 at 2:54 PM Rating: Good
I don't have the link but I can confirm SE as saying that the goggles are meant to be an item to catch up to the CE players. Not as a permanent item.
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.... /preorder swap.

Can someone link to the actual source though?

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#7 Sep 07 2010 at 2:54 PM Rating: Decent
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It's conjecture based off remarks S-E made about how the goggles were meant to allow people who started on the 30th to catch up to those who started on the 22nd. There's no concrete proof of any limits whatsoever on the goggles, probably won't know until people are wearing them.
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On an unrelated note: If the Goggles are to catch up to CE players, do PS3 players get Super Goggles?
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#9 Sep 07 2010 at 3:02 PM Rating: Default
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Why wouldn't they? I don't see any reason for people who get the crappy version of the game to get better skillup rates for their entire gameplay lifetime.


Are all 18,600 of your other posts as worthless as that one?
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My question is the obvious...Why even let them catch up? Isn't one of the selling points of the CE to be able to start early? By allowing the regular editions to 'catch up', you are negating one of the key perks of Collector's Edition.

Edited, Sep 7th 2010 5:04pm by DragonBourne
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I think the main perk of the CE week, isn't as much getting ahead of everyone else in LVLs.. It's more about having less people in your face in the noob zones, until you're past it. Also gives you a head start on collecting materials such as shards and crafting supplies, and establishing yourself as a supplier of goods for some earlybird profit.

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DragonBourne wrote:
My question is the obvious...Why even let them catch up? Isn't one of the selling points of the CE to be able to start early? By allowing the regular editions to 'catch up', you are negating one of the key perks of Collector's Edition.

Edited, Sep 7th 2010 5:04pm by DragonBourne


Because they like money?
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DragonBourne wrote:
My question is the obvious...Why even let them catch up? Isn't one of the selling points of the CE to be able to start early? By allowing the regular editions to 'catch up', you are negating one of the key perks of Collector's Edition.

I have to agree to some extent. To me I think that the Goggles make a great pre-order perk and if they only work to level 10 then so be it. Personally I don't think that the Onion Helm should be a pre-order perk but part of the CE package, and should also get the Goggles for pre-order as well.

Now I didn't pre-order CE or SE, but I am waiting for PS3 release. I hope that PS3 release also has a CE as well. It probably won't give that same early start, but I'd like to get the Onion Helm because of how much I actually like the Onion Knight. And getting PC-CE for a computer I don't have is a little much.
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#14 Sep 07 2010 at 4:13 PM Rating: Decent
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Kaelia88 wrote:
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Why wouldn't they? I don't see any reason for people who get the crappy version of the game to get better skillup rates for their entire gameplay lifetime.
Are all 18,600 of your other posts as worthless as that one?
No, and most are better than yours in this thread.

So, why should the standard edition receive a stronger bonus item than the collectors edition?



Edited, Sep 7th 2010 5:14pm by bsphil
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#15 Sep 07 2010 at 4:22 PM Rating: Good
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bsphil wrote:
Kaelia88 wrote:
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Why wouldn't they? I don't see any reason for people who get the crappy version of the game to get better skillup rates for their entire gameplay lifetime.
Are all 18,600 of your other posts as worthless as that one?
No, and most are better than yours in this thread.

So, why should the standard edition receive a stronger bonus item than the collectors edition?



Edited, Sep 7th 2010 5:14pm by bsphil


I wondered about that myself actually, and this is really the only way it makes any sense at all. It's still kind of a raw deal though to tell people that this nifty thing they got for pre-ordering the game only works for a short period of time in their character's life.
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#16 Sep 07 2010 at 4:24 PM Rating: Decent
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Archmage Callinon wrote:
bsphil wrote:
Kaelia88 wrote:
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Why wouldn't they? I don't see any reason for people who get the crappy version of the game to get better skillup rates for their entire gameplay lifetime.
Are all 18,600 of your other posts as worthless as that one?
No, and most are better than yours in this thread.

So, why should the standard edition receive a stronger bonus item than the collectors edition?
I wondered about that myself actually, and this is really the only way it makes any sense at all. It's still kind of a raw deal though to tell people that this nifty thing they got for pre-ordering the game only works for a short period of time in their character's life.
If it makes you feel any better, I'm pretty sure the CE preorder item will only work at low levels as well.

It's a nigh meaningless bonus to con people into keeping their preorders despite the game not being remotely close to a post-beta state.
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#17 Sep 07 2010 at 4:27 PM Rating: Good
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bsphil wrote:
Archmage Callinon wrote:
bsphil wrote:
Kaelia88 wrote:
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Why wouldn't they? I don't see any reason for people who get the crappy version of the game to get better skillup rates for their entire gameplay lifetime.
Are all 18,600 of your other posts as worthless as that one?
No, and most are better than yours in this thread.

So, why should the standard edition receive a stronger bonus item than the collectors edition?
I wondered about that myself actually, and this is really the only way it makes any sense at all. It's still kind of a raw deal though to tell people that this nifty thing they got for pre-ordering the game only works for a short period of time in their character's life.
If it makes you feel any better, I'm pretty sure the CE preorder item will only work at low levels as well.

It's a nigh meaningless bonus to con people into keeping their preorders despite the game not being remotely close to a post-beta state.


Yeah the Onion Helm is underwhelming (Improved Death... woopie), and frankly the goggles committing bloody suicide a few levels in makes me lean towards waiting a year or more before picking up the retail version of the game rather than dumping $100+ to get both edition bonuses (because that's what I was going to do) just to pay SE a lot of money to finish beta testing their game.
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#18 Sep 07 2010 at 4:31 PM Rating: Decent
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well...i think the goggles would be to hardcore if you could use them past lvl 10. if it increases the rate you skill up would me that you are forever ahead of the game. where the helmet just lets you die more. It does sound weird (i actually almost switched from CE to SE) but i think it makes sense that you cant use it till max level. just like the onion helment. i HIGHLY doubt we will see end game players wearing it haha.

i am doing CE cuz I wanna start out when the game is empty, the version i get comes with a tumbler (woo hoo) and the security key. the onion helment...well...i will use it for a bit.



on a different note though. wont it be hilarious come CE to see EVERYONE running around with that helmet on? it will be a sea of Onion newbie knights hahaha. gotta get a screenshot



and on the note of pre-order items...in every mmo they are always worthless after a while (WoW was just a worthless pet for example) in warhammer the items really help for when your low level. they are not going to give us a great item we will use for life. no matter what...CE or SE. Thats just silly cakes
#19 Sep 07 2010 at 4:32 PM Rating: Decent
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Archmage Callinon wrote:
bsphil wrote:
Archmage Callinon wrote:
bsphil wrote:
Kaelia88 wrote:
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Why wouldn't they? I don't see any reason for people who get the crappy version of the game to get better skillup rates for their entire gameplay lifetime.
Are all 18,600 of your other posts as worthless as that one?
No, and most are better than yours in this thread.

So, why should the standard edition receive a stronger bonus item than the collectors edition?
I wondered about that myself actually, and this is really the only way it makes any sense at all. It's still kind of a raw deal though to tell people that this nifty thing they got for pre-ordering the game only works for a short period of time in their character's life.
If it makes you feel any better, I'm pretty sure the CE preorder item will only work at low levels as well.

It's a nigh meaningless bonus to con people into keeping their preorders despite the game not being remotely close to a post-beta state.


Yeah the Onion Helm is underwhelming (Improved Death... woopie), and frankly the goggles committing bloody suicide a few levels in makes me lean towards waiting a year or more before picking up the retail version of the game rather than dumping $100+ to get both edition bonuses (because that's what I was going to do) just to pay SE a lot of money to finish beta testing their game.
That's assuming you could use both codes on the same account, as well. It may just be tied to whatever registration code you enter. The only reason I like the Onion Hat over the goggles is that the hat looks cooler. I don't care about the functionality of either.
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#20 Sep 07 2010 at 4:38 PM Rating: Good
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bsphil wrote:
Archmage Callinon wrote:
bsphil wrote:
Archmage Callinon wrote:
bsphil wrote:
Kaelia88 wrote:
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Why wouldn't they? I don't see any reason for people who get the crappy version of the game to get better skillup rates for their entire gameplay lifetime.
Are all 18,600 of your other posts as worthless as that one?
No, and most are better than yours in this thread.

So, why should the standard edition receive a stronger bonus item than the collectors edition?
I wondered about that myself actually, and this is really the only way it makes any sense at all. It's still kind of a raw deal though to tell people that this nifty thing they got for pre-ordering the game only works for a short period of time in their character's life.
If it makes you feel any better, I'm pretty sure the CE preorder item will only work at low levels as well.

It's a nigh meaningless bonus to con people into keeping their preorders despite the game not being remotely close to a post-beta state.


Yeah the Onion Helm is underwhelming (Improved Death... woopie), and frankly the goggles committing bloody suicide a few levels in makes me lean towards waiting a year or more before picking up the retail version of the game rather than dumping $100+ to get both edition bonuses (because that's what I was going to do) just to pay SE a lot of money to finish beta testing their game.
That's assuming you could use both codes on the same account, as well. It may just be tied to whatever registration code you enter. The only reason I like the Onion Hat over the goggles is that the hat looks cooler. I don't care about the functionality of either.


It was implied that all your item codes could be used in combination with one another but would only apply to characters created after that code was used (which has unfortunate implications if they introduce more codes later)
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