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#1 Sep 09 2010 at 7:09 AM Rating: Decent
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Not sure if this has been brought up, but I noticed that if I kill two things at the same time, I only get exp and drops for one of them. I assume it's because the other one isn't 'engaged' as the name doesn't turn red, even though it's getting damaged and attacking me. Switching targets obviously isn't as straight forward as it should be (thanks SE) but I tried disengaging my primary target half way through the fight and switching to the other one to direct my spells towards that one. By the time I've switched and casted, the other one's name stops being red.

I'm not sure if this is intentional or not, but just thought I'd mentioned it. Anyone else have any experience with this? I haven't really tested it much.
#2 Sep 09 2010 at 7:11 AM Rating: Decent
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I can confirm. Same thing happened to me. I've since stopped trying to aoe grind (which was fun).
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#3 Sep 09 2010 at 7:20 AM Rating: Decent
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"If they can't mass-farm, they can't RMT!" lol....
#4 Sep 09 2010 at 9:08 AM Rating: Good
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Correct, you only get points for the mob that is "engaged", and you can only have one mob engaged at a time. Does get annoying if you get links, since you can easily take out multiples (everyone has AoEs available whether magic or physical). It's been a while, but I think in FFXI even though you could only have one mob claimed, whoever dealt the killing blow "won" and got credit. Obviously that's not the case here, but I would fully expect it's intentional.

The only way to really do multiple mobs at once is to make sure that only one will die at a time, avoid DoTs as they get closer to dying, and make sure you can engage each mob to kill it after the previous mob died.
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#5 Sep 09 2010 at 9:32 AM Rating: Decent
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In 11 it was weird, you could get exp from a mob that was unclaimed, as long as it wasn't damaged outside of your party. If it was damaged outside of your party the exp was modified based on the person who damaged it. An evil trick was to put up shock spikes and mass cure people as a high level mage, this would prevent people in that party from getting any exp, and one of many reasons block aid was added to the game.

Kinda nice to know about this. Has anyone gotten rank exp off an aoe hit? If that still worked, than I could still see a point to it, otherwise, yeah, group fighting will become a big management issue between killing and exp sharing.
#6 Sep 09 2010 at 9:37 AM Rating: Good
rfolkker wrote:

Kinda nice to know about this. Has anyone gotten rank exp off an aoe hit? If that still worked, than I could still see a point to it, otherwise, yeah, group fighting will become a big management issue between killing and exp sharing.


I can also confirm not getting xp or drops from unclaimed mobs killed in AoE storms.
#7 Sep 09 2010 at 9:50 AM Rating: Good
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Sad to hear.

Though, it works with linked groups in levequests, so maybe it'll work on non levequest linked groups? (if they even exist)
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#8 Sep 09 2010 at 9:55 AM Rating: Good
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DAOWAce wrote:
Sad to hear.

Though, it works with linked groups in levequests, so maybe it'll work on non levequest linked groups? (if they even exist)

Well that's some good news, at least. But leve mobs are only killable by you anyway, so I could see them giving you credit for them all no matter what, whereas "public" mobs you could've had help, etc. (but they could simply keep track of who did what to it and split XP that way or negate XP if multiple PCs act on the same unclaimed mob). Hopefully the system will get tweaked so we can get credit where credit is due in some sort of fair manner.
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#9 Sep 09 2010 at 10:27 AM Rating: Good
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you do get xp from linked mobs in leves, but I haven't noticed any rank xp ever. Can anyone confirm rank xp fro AoE non-targeted mobs in leves? Kind of frustrating when the POINT of leves is extra skillups and faster leveling, yet all the mobs are grouped and seem to not give rank xp unless they are directly targeted. I hope I've just been unlucky.

edit: Just a thought... perhaps this is SE's way of encouraging party play? I know if someone else in my pt is engaged with another mob that I AoE, I sometimes get rank xp.

Edited, Sep 9th 2010 12:28pm by BartelX
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