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#1 Sep 11 2010 at 12:11 PM Rating: Decent
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Are people expecting to much from ffxiv? My brother is a hard core ffxi player has most if not all of his jobs to 75 at this point and so do some of his friends. But it seems like they all have this expectation that ffxiv is suppose to be something it's not.

He was telling me today that he and his friend will not be coming to ffxiv because they were expecting something else like ffxi.
I've yet to get the impression that ffxiv was or is suppose to be like ffxi. I guess I don't really understand where and why people are looking to play something they already have at home(ffxi) I tryed to explain that this game was something new and fresh but well he did not understand. I just thought it sucked I was looking forward to playing g a new different game with. Old friends but looks like I will be finding some new ones soon.

So to all of the ffxi players. If your not willing to learn and play a new fresh game something like ffxi but not. you might want to stay with what you have at home already.
#2 Sep 11 2010 at 12:22 PM Rating: Decent
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I can see why some FFXI players may want this to fail. Many of their friends are leaving for FFXIV and they are possibly having a hard time letting go of a character they have put countless hours into. It's understandable.

Most people by nature are reluctant of change, because it can be uncomfortable and different.

Some people may just flat-out like FFXI better. There's no harm in that. To each their own.
#3 Sep 11 2010 at 12:54 PM Rating: Decent
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Prolly all of the FFXI Players leaving for FFXIV will return after some months.

Most FFXI player who will not play FFXIV do it because right now with the new addon's there is lots of new things/much to do.
Getting new levels, spells, unlock weaponskill, increase combat/magic skill, getting new gear.
Its like the game is reborn for a little. Its like you are "new" again to the game, finding out about all the new stuff.
Pressing F5 in the forums to see the newest .DAT Results from .DAT minning.

Another thing is: FFXIV IS LIKE FFXI but it also IS NOT.
Its the same because: same races, same crappy ui/chatwindow stuff, same crappy targeting (kinda). These are things which just proves that it is a FFXI-2.

But the different combat as example makes it not that much FFXI. So it is kind of a Hybrid.
#4 Sep 11 2010 at 1:16 PM Rating: Good
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Do I expect a functional game? Yes. Is that too much? I don't think so.
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Do I expect a functional game? Yes. Is that too much? I don't think so.


It's not, but how many MMO's have you played at launch? They are usually riddled with bugs and/or crashes.
#6 Sep 11 2010 at 1:26 PM Rating: Good
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-The die-hard FFXI fans will probably still play XI, with exceptions of course.
-The people who left XI and want to play a SE MMO but are too far behind to catch up, or left and no longer have they're character they worked hard for will feel right at home in XIV.
-The people who are bored with other MMO's will like XIV if it fits their playstyle or are willing to adjust to it.
-The die-hard WoW players who just like to see other games fail will troll and act like the "played" the game, but will always go back to WoW.
-Players new to MMO's in general will either love it or hate it.

Thats all just based on theory of what ive read/seen around and what generally happens at release of new games.
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#7 Sep 11 2010 at 1:55 PM Rating: Default
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i expect for my 50 quid to have a playable game, with things to do.

i can live with the crashes and bugs at the start (you get used to them in mmo launches lol)
#8 Sep 11 2010 at 2:19 PM Rating: Good
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I honestly believe SE is SERIOUSLY under delivering their game. I mean compare it to the only other "next-gen" MMO, SWTOR which has been in development roughly as long as FFXIV has been.

More clearly defined classes / roles (sometimes less sandbox play is a good thing)
Cutting edge new systems/professions/Space flight

just a few examples. Now lets look at FFXIV

No clear direction on end game from the info we've been given all it seems to be are just a few types of guildleves.
choppy and slow menu system with WAY too many checks to get anything done(Windows vista anyone?)
Seeing as to how gear swapping is a moot issue, not sure why there is a need for macroing everything ESPECIALLY if the targeting system worked properly. Give us a few bars to place actions/spells and the ability to rebind keys, done.

#9 Sep 11 2010 at 2:28 PM Rating: Default
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I kinda expect to have alot xi players feel that way and Square contributed to that alot with the races being the same.
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#10 Sep 11 2010 at 2:45 PM Rating: Good
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I kinda expect to have alot xi players feel that way and Square contributed to that alot with the races being the same.


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#11 Sep 11 2010 at 3:11 PM Rating: Good
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Zidaga the Eccentric wrote:

-The die-hard WoW players who just like to see other games fail will troll and act like the "played" the game, but will always go back to WoW.


That statement is a bit off, I was a die-hard WoW player but in dire need of some change. I am not expecting too much, the game is below par as it stands, and within 2 weeks they cannot fix this. (Especially what I have heard about FFXI and bugs)

I didn't troll these forums, nor did I want to see this game fail. If this game had it's act together I would've jumped WoW's ship and peddelin' to the new best thing. Sadly SE did not deploy a piece of wood in the sea that could hold me. (or my attention)

So yeah, lurking these forums to see if something changes, if not, then I'll be waiting for TERA! :)
#12 Sep 11 2010 at 3:23 PM Rating: Excellent
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The people who left XI and want to play a SE MMO but are too far behind to catch up, or left and no longer have they're character they worked hard for will feel right at home in XIV.


This is me. My expectations were that SE learned something about communicating with their player base over the years. As it is, I have no idea what I paid money to pre-order, as I cannot believe that something as unfinished would be released as-is.

The game is fun, beautiful. But I spent 25 minutes yesterday just to vendor some crap. There's a lot of work to do before it's playable. Is there some secret other version that's playable and ready to go live? Unless they start talking, I'll be cancelling my pre-order and wait to see.
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#13 Sep 11 2010 at 3:52 PM Rating: Good
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BRizzl3 wrote:
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Do I expect a functional game? Yes. Is that too much? I don't think so.


It's not, but how many MMO's have you played at launch? They are usually riddled with bugs and/or crashes.


There's a difference between bugs that affect quality of life issues and occassional crashes that can be repeated (not randomed), and a game with a poorly coded engine and massive gameplay problems.
#14 Sep 11 2010 at 3:54 PM Rating: Excellent
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StrijderVechter wrote:
BRizzl3 wrote:
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Do I expect a functional game? Yes. Is that too much? I don't think so.


It's not, but how many MMO's have you played at launch? They are usually riddled with bugs and/or crashes.


There's a difference between bugs that affect quality of life issues and occassional crashes that can be repeated (not randomed), and a game with a poorly coded engine and massive gameplay problems.


With FFXIV, you don't have to choose!
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#15 Sep 11 2010 at 4:01 PM Rating: Excellent
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There's a difference between bugs that affect quality of life issues and occassional crashes that can be repeated (not randomed), and a game with a poorly coded engine and massive gameplay problems.

With FFXIV, you don't have to choose!


You sir, owe me one coffee and one monitor.
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#16 Sep 11 2010 at 4:14 PM Rating: Good
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So yeah, lurking these forums to see if something changes, if not, then I'll be waiting for TERA! :)


That game looks like a wannabe GW2 to me, no offense just the first thing that came to my mind.
#17 Sep 11 2010 at 4:15 PM Rating: Good
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Yes we are all expecting too much. A company of SE's caliber and all of the graphics flaunting they do shifts the bulls eye directly on their backs. Some of the design choices made in this game have been extremely ballsy even considering all of the recent console release disappointments and XI's shortcomings. How that will all play out, we have no way of knowing right now.

Still yet, even if angels descended from heaven on the 21st night of September '10 and resurrected the UI, lag, system requirements AND removed any kind of surplus all while adding perfect story content, people would still find something to biche about. They brought a lot of the negativity on themselves but i think it gets way out of hand most times.
#18 Sep 11 2010 at 4:16 PM Rating: Excellent
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PhoenixOmbre wrote:
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There's a difference between bugs that affect quality of life issues and occassional crashes that can be repeated (not randomed), and a game with a poorly coded engine and massive gameplay problems.

With FFXIV, you don't have to choose!


You sir, owe me one coffee and one monitor.


Instead, I'm distributing bonus coffee and monitors.
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#19 Sep 11 2010 at 4:25 PM Rating: Excellent
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Archmage Callinon wrote:
PhoenixOmbre wrote:
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There's a difference between bugs that affect quality of life issues and occassional crashes that can be repeated (not randomed), and a game with a poorly coded engine and massive gameplay problems.

With FFXIV, you don't have to choose!


You sir, owe me one coffee and one monitor.


Instead, I'm distributing bonus coffee and monitors.


I just spit up coffee all over my bonus monitor.
#20 Sep 11 2010 at 4:45 PM Rating: Excellent
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Archmage Callinon wrote:
Instead, I'm distributing bonus coffee and monitors.


You, sir, win surplus bonus Internets.
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