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#52 Sep 13 2010 at 8:12 AM Rating: Excellent
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You should google how to spell 'yourself'.


Running out of arguments, we resort to ridicule and personal insults once again, eh?
Typos may make an argument sound less intelligent; but the really dumb thing is to fall for that surface impression.


Edited, Sep 13th 2010 10:14am by Rinsui
#53 Sep 13 2010 at 8:13 AM Rating: Decent
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ShonaSeraph wrote:
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lmfao! I love how all you little insecure SE fan boys auto bring up wow when ever anyone says anything negative about XIV. Yes i play wow... BUT I've also played and own Every single FF game there is. so to tell me that this isn't the game for me is complete bull sh*t and a typical cop out when you don't have anything else to say. I do plan on getting FFXIV as its already pre ordered and like i said i have them all.. so if it does not get better.. it'll just add it to the collection.


Cool story.
Bottom line... if you like it, play. If you don't enjoy it, don't play.

But please do feel free to stay and post about your feelings on the game, because complete strangers do care.


I'm guessing you do know the purpose of an internet message board and are just choosing to be a dooooosh on purpose. You on the rag this week or something?
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#54 Sep 13 2010 at 8:16 AM Rating: Decent
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Really..? I mean.. seriously? Kay.
#55ShonaSeraph, Posted: Sep 13 2010 at 8:17 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I know, but I find it fun to point out the inability to spell two-syllable words. =)
#56 Sep 13 2010 at 8:17 AM Rating: Good
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I'm guessing you do know the purpose of an internet message board and are just choosing to be a dooooosh on purpose. You on the rag this week or something?


Nah.
He's on a crusade.
Every attempt to point out the - still many - flaws in this - potentially great - game have to be met by instant censorship.
All this board belong to his.


(Please point out the spelling and grammar errors in that last sentence. It will make you sound smart.)
#57ShonaSeraph, Posted: Sep 13 2010 at 8:21 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Nahh, the only thing that really bothers me is the 'he' and 'his' but whatever. I was having so much fun here with you all, I forgot that FFXIV was back up. =)
#58 Sep 13 2010 at 8:29 AM Rating: Excellent
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...and this concludes today's bashing competition.
See you all during the next maintenance.


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#59 Sep 13 2010 at 8:40 AM Rating: Good
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oh Sorry!! I was busy sifting threw 50 menu screens so I could start a leve quest. Did i miss anything? Nope..? Ok.. cool.
#60 Sep 13 2010 at 8:40 AM Rating: Decent
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When did OB officially turn into a polished Demo? I think I missed that memo. I seriously thought I was still in the beta.

I for one have had a blast with the beta. I mean yea...there's a ton of stuff that needs attention...duh, its beta. Many of which I assume they have fixed...but we won't see until release or sometime after release. And over the first month or so after release we should see a ton of adjustments. And I have the CE coming...which means a free month of playing...so who cares...its all part of the fun. I like watching these things change and adapt. Its as if people have forgot how MMO's are built. They are built over time...piece by piece. If people don't want to be part of the process...just wait...and get the game later. ****...they may even have DEMO for you to play to see what the game REALLY looks like.

These "Woah is me, I am so disappointed" threads need to stop. I much rather enjoy reading the threads that talk about new areas, new monsters, new new new....ITS ALL NEW.

God I can't wait to see how this all works out.

Peace.

Edited, Sep 13th 2010 10:41am by Simool
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#61 Sep 13 2010 at 8:45 AM Rating: Decent
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Anyway enough with these nonsense posts, i'm looking forward to FFXIV, even though there is many flaws which will hopefully be sorted out by the end of the second month of open play.. If not, I think i'll take a break from it until things seem to be better..
#62 Sep 13 2010 at 8:59 AM Rating: Excellent
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Does this mean as an intelligent, unknown, plain-looking girl I am more likely to get a decent guy who cares about more than just looks and can hold a conversation with me? Sweet!

Yes, yes it does. :)
#63 Sep 13 2010 at 9:29 AM Rating: Excellent
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oh and did i mention that "botching the synthesis" is rather irritating? I mean i could deal with it.. if it didn't take 50 years to set everything up again. **** i will gladly botch 50 in a row.. if they remove some of the **** menus! let me attempt to make 5 in a row with out having to select the **** cloth/yarn/main/off hand EVERY TIME!!

Rawwr! :)
#64 Sep 13 2010 at 11:16 AM Rating: Good
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So what you guys are saying is that only SE fan boys are allowed to post on these forums?


What were you saying? I'm not listening. *plugs ears* lalalalala I only want to hear opinions if they sound like mine!
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#65 Sep 13 2010 at 11:55 AM Rating: Good
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Magnify this with the fact that each character animation takes about 3-5 seconds, and you kill the immersion even more. When I tell my character to perform a special move, or mine, or craft... it takes so long for the completion, even of lackluster moves, that everyone thinks it's lag... when in actuallity it's just horribly executed animation speed.


I didn't read through the whole thread and just wanted to say something about this.

As for special move, I'm guessing you're talking about performing a weapon skill or ability during a fight. This "lag" only happened to me when my connect is red or yellow with very low numbers. I'd also experienced that when I tried to turn up ALL the setting to max and playing full screen with the highest resolution.

As for mining (or lumbering), I agree it takes too long to "get repair" to mine and too long to put away the tools, but if you compare the speed with beta 3, open beta is already much faster. That being said, I'm not saying it'll be any faster in release, but I'm seeing some improvement there and hopefully they'll be much faster and smoother.

As for crafting (and selling stuff to npc), same thing as above, it is much faster than beta 3. I've read it somewhere people are saying all these scripts are server side script now, so everytime you perform an 'action', you have to make a connection to the server, and the more you connect to the server, the slower it'll be. People are saying this will change in the retail version, but I'm not really worry about this because if they could do it in FFXI, I don't see why they couldn't do it in FFXIV.
#66 Sep 13 2010 at 12:03 PM Rating: Good
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I don't want to turn this into WoW v. FFXIV so let me get this out of the way: Not everybody loves the hotbar system, I for one loved FFXI's menu's, I've played nearly every AAA MMO created (included some non AAA titles) since EQ1 and I still prefer the menu system to shiny hotbars, but maybe I'm brain-dead. To me the current, menu+ hotbar system is the unholy spawn of a post-WoW world but 95% of "MMO" players are WoW players now so I'll have to live with it.

Moving on. FFXIV has a lot of flaws, many of which I've tried to report but coming to these forums I don't see "this is a flaw", I see "my favorite game which is uber successful did this soooomuch better". Nobody here is saying the game is flawless, but most of us can live without coming to zam and flaming the fanboys.

Rawwry, you're and idiot and a troll, go get a spray on tan and gel your hair kay-kay dood?

I can agree the UI lag is terrible, have you been making in-depth reports about it? Getting back to the OP, one thing this hot girl always had that WoW never matched was character. The people, the places, the lore everything about FFXI screams "immersive world". Now looking at FFXIV I can see the seeds of such a world taking place. There is a story to be told in Eorzea and I will be damned if it isn't awesome.

Final point for fanboys and critics alike; FFXI had an entire year of live, retail testing before it came to North America. No game is perfect on release, **** most game suck absolute toxic human infant sh*t on release, this is what you subscribe to when you join the MMO world. WoW was no better, SWG was worse, WAR was terrible, AoC nearly gave me an aneurysm, EVE was pretty bad, EQ took years to come into its own but we enjoyed it none the less and I'm sure if you ask a JP player FFXI was nigh unplayable upon release.

Get used to it.
This is how MMO's work.
This is how they will always work.

Edited, Sep 13th 2010 2:08pm by Wloire
#67 Sep 13 2010 at 12:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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He's complaining because SE doesn't communicate with the community in any way to offer solace and clarity, like most other developers do. Any issue can be big or small, but it will be made bigger if players are left in the dark.
This is how how our minds work. Are you not aware of this after walking through the many walks of life?


I wouldn't want to communicate with any of these fansite type communities either if I was SE.
Seriously, take a broad look at ourselves. 90% of posters are nothing but whiny, attention-starved brats, who do nothing but complain... complain... complain...

It's not just this game or this fansite either. Most everything in life has become too convenient. When the smallest thing goes wrong, the first thing most people do is whine and complain nowadays. If I whined and complained when I was growing up, my parents would slap me upside the head. Unfortunately the internet has given people the ability to whine and complain without repercussions, so people do... ad nauseum.

What can anyone tell SE at this point that they don't already know? Is Poster #651 going to tell SE that their UI is laggy and unacceptable for the millionth time? Their daily patches at the moment are there to fix problems, they don't do them for the **** of it. Would SE wasting time posting "We're fixing problem x at this time" really make you feel any better?

Any solace and clarity I need in life definitely won't be from a video game fansite.


I've created threads about things that people usually don't mention, and that we feel SE might not know yet (such as the chatlog or graphical hitches or whatnot), yet I still get flamed all the same.
Instead of being told "we've heard this before, whiner crybaby!", I get told "wow, you guys whine about EVER LITTLE THING! You think of something new every day! gtfo!"

So really, no matter what kind of unbiased honest opinion we have on different aspects of the game, we will get flamed to ****.
If you've got lower norms for discussion than me, then that's your problem. I think, if someone has a problem, they shouldnt get their taillights busted in.

And I'm not defending those who say "WoW is better" or "WoW is like a dumb girl you date"
Those are silly troll threads.
But most of the other threads are honest and harmless and are no grounds for invading with a flamethrower.

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#68 Sep 13 2010 at 12:27 PM Rating: Good
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Just play the game and keep your mouth shut!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SE can do no wrong and every FFXIV flaw was really a design enhancement.

#69 Sep 13 2010 at 4:42 PM Rating: Good
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ShonaSeraph wrote:
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Yes. Like, the recipe book they recently included into FFXI.
Oh wait. They didn't?


Hmm you're right, I guess having the game do everything for you would be awesome, then nobody would have to play, or even think.


Yes, ALT-TABBING to a website (where everything is provided for you anyway) is a much more realistic scenario than the thought that my character actually WROTE the recipes down that he/she attained. I mean what true artisan would have the foresight to do this? Not to mention, ALT-TABBING out of game gives me a broader sense of accomplishment than simply looking it up somewhere convenient. SE already stated they would like the game to rely heavily on community sites. If you take this as to mean that SE really meant that they are lazy and would just rather take our money with the least amount of effort, then I fail to see your logic!

EDIT: I just thought of a REALLY cool concept they could add: How about they make us to go look up recipes in our local libraries? To avoid people just passing them around, simply issue an Authenticity Code with each visit that unlocks all the recipes you looked up? Now, THAT'S immersion!

Edited, Sep 13th 2010 6:47pm by DragonBourne

Edited, Sep 13th 2010 6:48pm by DragonBourne
#70 Sep 14 2010 at 5:52 AM Rating: Decent
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Dude.. You hurt me with your words! :'(

as for the rest of your post...Kinda boring. The only thing i've been ******** about is the UI which they most likely will NOT change. Sh*tty *** menu based UI are a staple of FF Games. Doesn't mean i have to like it tho!
#71 Sep 14 2010 at 9:13 AM Rating: Decent
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Like I said this isn't wow, if you want 20+ addons playing the game for you, by all means play wow. This isn't the game for you.


Yeah I know, it's not like WoW.

WoW would actually go somewhere, have a functional UI, and have endgame when it lauched on release date. Plus, it would actually have platform specific controls that actually work.

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Skill: What exactly requires skill? My ability to read a map? The BIG YELLOW ARROW that points me exactly to where I need to go for a quest? Please, do explain the "skill" aspect of this game.
Several things, quest leves LVL 20 can be undertaken from level 10, and can be completed with medium group of 4-5 players, but it require skill and tactics, have you play gladiator? passed level 10 it requires you to pay attention to many things at the same time, that requires skill.

More samples?, let's look at mining, fishing and botanist those mini-games require precision which is a big part of being skilled, if you want to go for the high level spots you better be good or you are gathering nothing. Just look at crafting, the system is complex and challenging, most of it is barely known.

This game is lacking heavily on many things, but for once I agree that it requires skill.


Oh yes. Soloing a level at the difficulty that virtually everyone else in beta has soloed require oh-so-much skill. As far as gathering professions, I wasn't aware that "Hold'n'Cold" required a Harvard degree.

The crafting system isn't complex at all; it's ripped from Everquest II. Hitting buttons in a sequence where you go through five million menus to achieve a crafted material isn't "skill". And if you truly think that is, then any person that can make a pot of coffee is a genius.

Edited, Sep 14th 2010 11:17am by StrijderVechter
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