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#1 Sep 14 2010 at 4:35 AM Rating: Sub-Default
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If you ever thought about going back to WoW(in case you even played it at all xD)

THIS IS WHY NOT!!!

Official Blue Post about Cataclysm Boss Encounter Difficulty

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[...]but it still doesn't seem bad if you wipe on a new boss 2-3 times before you figure out a solid stragegy and everything falls into place.[...]


I thought about giving WoW Cataclysm a 2nd chance and play it a bit before FFXIV gets released on PS3, as I won't play it on PC...but this made me regret that thought in an instant!

What about you guys? Anyone wishing to play WoW again already, or did you never even played it once?^^

Edited, Sep 14th 2010 10:35am by Shezard
#2 Sep 14 2010 at 4:40 AM Rating: Good
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Last time I checked this forum was about FFXIV.


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(and whining, of course)
#3 Sep 14 2010 at 4:41 AM Rating: Decent
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I played WoW for 6 months, and in that time , i got 5 jobs to level 80...

Quit and never going back, too easy of a game for me, i prefer a little bit of a challenge which im hoping that FFXIV gives me instead.
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#4 Sep 14 2010 at 5:12 AM Rating: Good
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Your quote taken out of context makes no sense.

Are you QQing about the game being too hard or too easy?
#5 Sep 14 2010 at 5:51 AM Rating: Decent
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That means nothing. Back when the game was difficult, it was nothing for good guilds to spend weeks figuring out boss fights.
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#6 Sep 14 2010 at 5:57 AM Rating: Good
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I really don't understand the purpose of this thread.
#7 Sep 14 2010 at 6:02 AM Rating: Decent
Reminder: Think before you thread.
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#8 Sep 14 2010 at 6:04 AM Rating: Good
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I played WoW for 6 months, and in that time , i got 5 jobs to level 80...

Quit and never going back, too easy of a game for me, i prefer a little bit of a challenge which im hoping that FFXIV gives me instead.


Can you link your characters so I can see your hard-mode achievements and gladiator titles?

Generic response I know, but had to be said.
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#9 Sep 14 2010 at 6:06 AM Rating: Decent
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KacesofCaitsith wrote:
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I played WoW for 6 months, and in that time , i got 5 jobs to level 80...

Quit and never going back, too easy of a game for me, i prefer a little bit of a challenge which im hoping that FFXIV gives me instead.


Can you link your characters so I can see your hard-mode achievements and gladiator titles?

Generic response I know, but had to be said.


havent been back there in too long, plus, had someone try to phish my account, so i called blizzard and have them delete everything about the account since they couldnt ensure that my credit card info wasnt on the account still lol
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#10 Sep 14 2010 at 6:10 AM Rating: Good
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Myzldas wrote:
KacesofCaitsith wrote:
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I played WoW for 6 months, and in that time , i got 5 jobs to level 80...

Quit and never going back, too easy of a game for me, i prefer a little bit of a challenge which im hoping that FFXIV gives me instead.


Can you link your characters so I can see your hard-mode achievements and gladiator titles?

Generic response I know, but had to be said.


havent been back there in too long, plus, had someone try to phish my account, so i called blizzard and have them delete everything about the account since they couldnt ensure that my credit card info wasnt on the account still lol


I never knew that you could ask Blizzard to absolutely demolish the account for you. I am aware you can close it... but to demolish it?

On a side note, I quit WoW before WotLK, but 5 characters to level 80 in 6 months is quite impressive. I know that it is possible to get to level 70 in less than 20-ish days playtime... You must have been quite dedicated. :P

Edited, Sep 14th 2010 8:10am by MaxwellDemon
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KacesofCaitsith wrote:


Can you link your characters so I can see your hard-mode achievements and gladiator titles?

Generic response I know, but had to be said.


I was never the kind of person who liked to go do everything in the game on a harder setting - to me it just seemed to make sense to make the game 1 difficulty and then have people prove themselves within and against that single difficulty.

Honestly I would be just as happy if a game was so hard I couldn't complete all the content, rather than having it be so easy I need to crank the difficulty setting and do it over again for a challenge.

Each to their own I guess.

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#12 Sep 14 2010 at 6:19 AM Rating: Decent
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having "easy" and "hard" encounters just allows more casual and weekend warrior type people to enjoy endgame content as those who raid 4-5 nights a week.

if you make the game so difficult that even those who put in over a hundred hours a month of game play can't defeat certain encounters, those who aren't so inclined to game their life away will never enjoy raid content.

It works, at least it does in EQ2 and WoW from what I hear. The few dozen people who like to play 30+ hours a week have their content, and the rest of us have ours.

Edited, Sep 14th 2010 8:20am by measureups
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#13 Sep 14 2010 at 6:22 AM Rating: Decent
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On a side note, I quit WoW before WotLK, but 5 characters to level 80 in 6 months is quite impressive. I know that it is possible to get to level 70 in less than 20-ish days playtime... You must have been quite dedicated. :P


First one was Hunter, those were simple to level especially with playing BST so much in XI
Second was Shadowpriest cause they were insanely overpowered and i had a week off work cause of some surgery.
Third was Death Knight, but those started off at like 55 or something starting off, so it was cheating lol
Fourth was another priest, this time of Horde cause people that i worked with were horde and all mine were Draenai things
And last i did a Warlock because it was another pet jobs (and i love me some pet jobs)

oh, and about blizzard obliterating the account, they had BETTER have, with as much screaming as i did about having my credit card info still on their accounts, dont think they wanted to have fraud charges brought up on em if anything happened bla bla bla lol

Edited, Sep 14th 2010 8:23am by Myzldas
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#14 Sep 14 2010 at 6:25 AM Rating: Excellent
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Myzldas wrote:
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On a side note, I quit WoW before WotLK, but 5 characters to level 80 in 6 months is quite impressive. I know that it is possible to get to level 70 in less than 20-ish days playtime... You must have been quite dedicated. :P


First one was Hunter, those were simple to level especially with playing BST so much in XI
Second was Shadowpriest cause they were insanely overpowered and i had a week off work cause of some surgery.
Third was Death Knight, but those started off at like 55 or something starting off, so it was cheating lol
Fourth was another priest, this time of Horde cause people that i worked with were horde and all mine were Draenai things
And last i did a Warlock because it was another pet jobs (and i love me some pet jobs)


I wasn't asking you to verify the classes you leveled (though yes, having a DK in there would explain that one). I am just surprised, because as a former long-term WoW player, who have played WoW since the beta and only quit when WotLK went on live, I didn't have the patience to level 3 other "toons" to level 80. :P

I only leveled two classes to level 70, a druid and a paladin (I do love me some jack-of-all-trades classes).
#15 Sep 14 2010 at 6:28 AM Rating: Decent
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havent been back there in too long, plus, had someone try to phish my account, so i called blizzard and have them delete everything about the account since they couldnt ensure that my credit card info wasnt on the account still lol


I too was unaware that you could do that. Still, the data might be present on the armory, so yeah, character names and realms please.

If that fails, what was your highest hard-mode achievement and gladiator rank? Please give raid compositions, dps/hps approximations and your personal spec for the encounters. Also, please give your arena composition and spec for your gladiator title?

Sorry if i am being skeptic, but you are basically saying "trust me" on this - which on a forum is never a good idea, especially one with so much WoW hate. Nothing personal i assure you.

Actually, if all of that makes you uncomfortable, just link your guild on the armory. Give your character name and we can just verify it all through that.

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I was never the kind of person who liked to go do everything in the game on a harder setting - to me it just seemed to make sense to make the game 1 difficulty and then have people prove themselves within and against that single difficulty.

Honestly I would be just as happy if a game was so hard I couldn't complete all the content, rather than having it be so easy I need to crank the difficulty setting and do it over again for a challenge.

Each to their own I guess.


I like it personally. I don't require the bragging rights of being on the cutting edge of content anymore - i would just like to see the lore progress and see the encounters that my monthly fee is paying for.

I don't see it as "easy or hard" just "normal or hard" - even with the gradual buff increase they give, alot of people have not cleared ICC or RS. Which given that the expansion is around the corner and they really don't care if people farm the crap outta content at this point, says alot.

Edited, Sep 14th 2010 8:32am by KacesofCaitsith

Edited, Sep 14th 2010 8:34am by KacesofCaitsith
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#16 Sep 14 2010 at 6:33 AM Rating: Decent
The biggest challenge for me in WoW was dealing with the silent A-holes when grouping with cross server people on heroic PUGs. It was such an awesome idea, but it just made the it even easier for most people to shun any verbal communication (unless the princess tank wanted to go all 'wife-beater wearing stepdad' and yell at the people he just met 30 seconds before.

That's what made me give up the last time I played.
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#17 Sep 14 2010 at 6:36 AM Rating: Good
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Overlord Chialing wrote:
The biggest challenge for me in WoW was dealing with the silent A-holes when grouping with cross server people on heroic PUGs. It was such an awesome idea, but it just made the it even easier for most people to shun any verbal communication (unless the princess tank wanted to go all 'wife-beater wearing stepdad' and yell at the people he just met 30 seconds before.

That's what made me give up the last time I played.


While I was already gone when that function came online... I still want to throw in my two cents. :P

Sure, it sounds theoretically a great idea... but in my humble opinion, any MMORPG is best played with people you know and trust (this is only spoken from my experiences). I never liked PUG, and I only did it just to meet people, never to advance in the game. As soon as I met enough people or have joined a guild, then I'll only work with people in my guild or in my friend list. If I absolutely have to resort to strangers, I often acted as either the tank or the healer, so I have one of the two most important group roles under my belt. :P
#18 Sep 14 2010 at 6:43 AM Rating: Good
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Played WoW for 6-8months, started just before WoTLK came out, got 3 level 80s, topped DPS in every pug with my main, got 6 professions maxed apart for engineering which was 400+ close to max and somehow managed to get a rare 280% speed reins of the blue proto drake off skardi, which I wasnt even trying to farm.
That game lost all sense of achievement for me, each patch nerfing my latest toon, making the game easier and easier, making each previous achievement mean less and less.
I am trying out GWs in preperation for GW2 but the real next MMO I am looking forward to is the next one from Blizzard even if it wont be for 3 years.
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/sigh, another troll thread.

please leave everything WoW related on WoW forums, thank you.
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Blizzard will not "delete" anything on an account, unless it was obtained in the game via a glitch or exploit, they will only "freeze" the account while they investigate the validity of the supposed phishing or hacking. For this reason alone I am calling shenanigans on your original statement. 5 toons to 80 in 6 months is however completely plausible, it only takes about 2 weeks, on average, to grind hard to 80.

Now back on track;

After 5+ years of WoW, going back to beta, I have absolutely no desire, draw, need, want, or reason to go back to WoW after FFXIV releases. I got my Kingslayer title (WotLK) on a couple toons, and started doing hardmodes, then said you know what, why bother, it's the same thing just, well, harder, big deal. I think the biggest reason I am done with WoW is Cataclysm, is, in a nutshell, it's the same car with a new paint job. Couple new races that do the same thing the rest of them do, you can fly in Kalimdor and EK now, big deal, I kinda liked taking a flight path, specially when I needed to grab a fresh Dew. Underwater dungeons and locations, whoopity doo, think Deadmines with a blue hue on your screen. /yawn

Yeah, bottom line, time for something new, period. I canceled my sub, handed my guild over to a friend I have been playing with for 5 years and said my so longs with no regret, and no looking back, and I must say, good riddance.
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#21 Sep 14 2010 at 6:52 AM Rating: Good
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I played wow on and off for years. I really can't say I'll be going back ever, the dynamics of the game haven't changed enough for me, it feels like I've been doing the same thing for too long.
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#22 Sep 14 2010 at 9:42 AM Rating: Decent
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I really don't get this thread either. Nothing about that quote seems bad to me. What's the big deal if it takes you two or three tries to figure out what you did wrong?

I'll try to answer the question, though. Was I thinking about going back to WoW? Yeah, with the PS3 version of FFXIV not hitting for several months, I was thinking about giving Cataclysm a spin. However, Blizzard has yet to announce a release date for Cataclysm. I get the feeling there won't be much time in between its release and FFXIV's PS3 release.

Besides that, after more and more information on FFXIV started to surface, I gradually lost interest in WoW. I know many don't like what is going on with FFXIV, but I have been pretty consistently impressed. The only things I was looking forward to in Cataclysm were the newly destroyed Azeroth and the Worgen race.

Additionally, DC Universe Online is looking at a November release date, and I have been geeking out over it for a long time. As a former CoH/CoV player and a huge comic book geek, I'm really excited. So if I'm going to play any MMORPG prior to FFXIV, it's going to be DC Universe Online.

#23 Sep 14 2010 at 10:51 AM Rating: Default
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Guess I'll take the opposite opinion in this thread.

I was so excited for FFXIV. I played FFXI, got to 75, quit, Played WoW, got to 60 (cap back then), quit, played FFXI, quit, played WoW, got to 80.. quit...

and that's where I was. I had FFXIV pre-ordered and was excited to play. I got into beta, and immediately thought "oh no". It was the same game. I already had to swallow the "exact same races" pill. But when I got into beta and saw that the game looked and played almost identically to FFXI, I was heartbroken. I made characters in two of the starting cities, one is basically a revamp of Windurst and the other port town a revamp of Bastok. I couldnt believe how they hadn't really changed how crappy the mouse system was (especially the failure to include a hardware mouse) basically forcing players to use the keyboard only. I couldn't believe how the message box system and NPC chat system was still the same. Do I want my NPC quest text to be spammed in the message box along with 200 other players blabbing about where to go? no.

I know many of these complaints are subjective, and I accept that. It just broke my heart. I have since cancelled my pre-order, and started looking into Cataclysm for WoW. I activated my old account, used the recruit-a-friend to get a friend playing, and we starting leveling new jobs getting 3x the experience. We plan on hitting 80 shortly before Cataclysm comes out (which will likely be early November, btw)

I thought they were going to change, and modernize the online FF series. But its still as archaic as ever. The interface and game in general is very unresponsive. It's about as user friendly as an old HP graphing calculator.

So long story short, a few of my friends and I are playing WoW now instead of FFXIV and are planning on playing through the new Cataclysm expansion.
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#24 Sep 14 2010 at 10:54 AM Rating: Decent
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According to MMO Champion, and the admin there is usually quite accurate, they're aiming for early November. So there should be time before the FFXIV PS3 release if you want to try it.
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#25 Sep 14 2010 at 10:57 AM Rating: Decent
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it only takes about 2 weeks, on average, to grind hard to 80.


Reaching 80 takes a less then a week in WoW, with their RAF program, join up with a friend both start a new account and have a lv 80 PL ya through instances all day.. you will be lv 60 by if not by the 1st.. but on the 2nd day... the content of BC and Wotlk is so freaking easy.. how ever it would be come rather boring after the 2nd run through.. but its possible
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#26 Sep 14 2010 at 11:07 AM Rating: Decent
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Another WoW thread in the XIV forums..

Wow....
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I left WoW in before WoTLK came out too...I still remembered it took me a long time to get the T0.5, just the 45 minutes Baron run took me and my friends more than a week to complete.
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