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#1 Sep 14 2010 at 5:48 AM Rating: Excellent
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1987
Final Fantasy I

this was the first game that I ever played on the Nintendo, still have the two original posters that came with the game cartridge box. This game supposedly saved square from bankruptcy back then? I don't remember getting that far in this game I just remember enjoying the music more than the actual gameplay. lol

1992
Final Fantasy II (IV JP)


I didn't actually play this game at first, I was watching my bro play through it all since he was the one that owned the SNES and bought the game. Loved the music a lot in this one. This game made me a loyal fan to final fantasy. I was around 9 years old by this time and stuff like "Lunarians came from a planet destroyed which is now the asteroid belt" made my imagination run wild :D oh and the dwarfs living within the earth too with their backyard swimming pool filled with lava. Music was superb all around. Oh and the Big Whale ship.... flying to the moon ... it all clicked perfectly with my fascination of space travel.

1993
Secret of Mana

Rented this game a lot during the summer. It was very enjoyable being able to play with a friend in this. Gameplay was much more enjoyable than turn base, the plot/story didn't compare to the final fantasy IV/VI though. Music great here too.

1994
Final Fantasy III (VI JP)

The first game I actually played a whole summers vacation on. Got ****** when Shadow left my party. And when I didn't save him when the world was falling apart. T_T Loved the whole Opera House thing. Oh and... finding your friends after the world cataclysm was reinvigorating moments.... I got depressed being stuck with Celes and feeding her dieing friend fish. The whole Esper learning magic system was a little imbalanced to me but **** i didn't care too much since I could get everyone to learn Ultima. ;) Very emotional game...

1995
Chrono Trigger

This game sparked my imagination with time travel and history changing plots. Dual techs.... omg.... Triple tech..... drooling... This was Square at it's best on one of their very last releases on Snes.


After 1995-1996 Square just seemed to transform into something different to me. I know a few Quest team members left to join Square (Ogre Battle guys) which then later Final Fantasy Tatics comes about. Imo, I notice this trend growing a lot, and then the Spirits Within Failure... >.> Sucks how Lord of the rings movie came out just at the same time lol. It'd probably would've been interesting if they did a movie based a little more on the earlier final fantasy titles. I mean shoot, LOTR pulled it off with the mythology stuff. And then we get the Square and Enix merge.

Anyways enough rant, I've given up a long time ago expecting Square to give me that 1987-1995 experience again, I can only count on Nobuo Uematsu to get it right when it comes down to the music at least. I'd rather pay for a ticket to his concerts than a Square game these days. He is probably one of the main reasons I've been drawn back here is cause of him composing all of the music in FFXIV. At the same time I'm giving little hope for it succeeding but willing to give it a try in release.






#2 Sep 14 2010 at 5:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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How did you become a Square?

They cornered me.
#3 Sep 14 2010 at 5:59 AM Rating: Good
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Osanshouo wrote:
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How did you become a Square?

They cornered me.


Hahahaha, nice one.
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I started off playing part I way back in the day, but i never beat it, kept on dying close to the end, so i eventually gave up.

When part II (IV) came out for the SNES, i was on that like white on rice, and i've pretty much gotten every Square game since.. minus a few titles here and there (heck, i even got Tobal No.1 and The Bouncer and i LOVED Vagrant Story, want them to make a sequal/prequal remake, i dont care!)

I'll admit, Spirits Within was a pretty bad movie, but i think square redeemed themselves with Advent Children ( i still watch that sometimes lol)

I know i'll be buying 3rd birthday cause i loved the Parasite Eve series, and was reading an article saying that if the PSP game did well enough, they were going to start a Parasite Eve project for the PS3 (/joy overload)

I don't mind the direction the company is going for with their games, I'm proud to say that im a square-fanboy, but don't get me wrong, im not the kind that'll bash ya for having an opinion one way or another, just my point of view lol. kk, i rambled off enough, but i like being nostalgic about some of this stuff lol


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#5 Sep 14 2010 at 6:03 AM Rating: Decent
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Geez, sounds like the OP missed out on quite a few games.

Secret of Evermore, Chrono Cross, FF IX, Super Mario RPG (Yes, I said it.), and the Kingdom Hearts games off to the top of my head. I'm sure I'm forgetting some.
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loved the mario rpg... didnt nintendo try doing that again with paper mario on the wii?
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I played FF1 and FF11 thats it.
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runtheplacered wrote:
, Super Mario RPG


I loved super mario rpg! It was easy but fun.

It was an SE game?
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Olorinus the Vile wrote:
runtheplacered wrote:
, Super Mario RPG


I loved super mario rpg! It was easy but fun.

It was an SE game?


Yuppers
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#10 Sep 14 2010 at 6:28 AM Rating: Good
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Final Fantasy VI
Was the first one I ever played back when I was nine. Only reason I was so late into the game was because I was originally raised on Sega games only before then. (Not that it was a bad thing since Sega was still good at the time). Sadly, I never got very far in it since not only was it my first RPG, I was at a foster care house I didn't stay in long, but the memories are still with me.

Final Fantasy IX

I wasn't able to try another FF game until I was about 14 or so and found the game while babysitting some of the relative's kids of my new foster family. Both this and FFVI became my tied favorite FF games of all. (Please don't flame me for not thinking VII was the best. I liked it just not as much as some other games Final Fantasy games) I played this game I don't even know how many times from beginning to end.

I then slowly tried to catch up with as many of the older and newer Final Fantasy games as I could. However, things slowly died for me with X and onward. Well sorta...XI and XVI are in their own world since they are MMOs and have different issues but I am done trying to convince anyone of them. X wasn't the worst but there were still some issues that got under my skin, and then XII was great gameplay but a story I fell asleep on and wondered why the main character wasn't even the main character, and now I have yet to try XIII. I don't have an HD tv yet so it would be annoying, and not to mention it seems a lot of said it isn't anything to new. But that is up for debate.

Honestly I have given up on most SE games. KH was great but I started losing interest after Chain of Memories and KHII. If I play any new Square game, then I am usually playing some of the old ones I missed out on like Chrono Trigger or Final Fantasy Tactics. But not so much the newer games. I am only giving XIV a chance because it is an MMO and therefore, still follows a different gameplay pattern completely and seeing XI is all they have at the moment...I can't say yet if they will be getting worse at this or not.

Edited, Sep 14th 2010 8:32am by Icare
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Myzldas wrote:
Olorinus the Vile wrote:
runtheplacered wrote:
, Super Mario RPG


I loved super mario rpg! It was easy but fun.

It was an SE game?


Yuppers


Well technically it was just a Squaresoft game. Enix at that point was probably making Star Ocean.
#12 Sep 14 2010 at 7:14 AM Rating: Decent
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Bushido Blade. Technically Light Weight, but published by Squaresoft.
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FF7 - I never was allowed a game system as a kid (Ironic as it's now my career). Anyway, first money I made, I bought a PS1 and got FFVII for no reason besides it seemed interesting. I was taken away into a world the richness of which I hadn't expected. I went on to enjoy FF8, FF9, FFTactics (PS & GBA/DS). With a little time going backwards to FF6/Chrono trigger. However I found I couldn't get into those to completion, the visuals just weren't holding me vs the day's standard.

Then the PS2 came along, and they started losing me with FF10. It stared off well but something about it felt shallow, almost like better graphics made them think selling the story didn't matter anymore. Maybe it was the voice overs too, I didn't have a choice what my characters sound like, they decided for me (unfortunately for Tidus). But overall the story seemed very weak, like a faded watercolor painting compared to an atmospheric oil painting. I mean come on, the 'bad guy' tries to marry the girl you like? That's the worst he does?? Whatever happened to 10 foot long stabbings, shredding time and space, corrupting the earth's soul for fuel etc?? And that's not mentioning Kefka.

Then FFXI, which started off good but slowly and surely soured me towards SE in general. This was the 'killing blow' to my love for SE. So when FF12 came out I was already uninterested. I checked it out for graphics recon, and found none of the characters to feel important to me. Any one of them could die at any time, and I wouldn't have cared in story or gameplay. Harsh contrast to tears welling up when Aeris surprisingly died and thinking "Noooo my Curaga spammer!!!".

FF13 - Haven't touched it and not planning to. I can tell it's further down the same road.

So why play FFXIV? Well despite my knowing that this game will be run like the bad times of FFXI for years, I actually feel a sense of adventure at this new world. So I'll stick around until I've seen enough, I think.

But in general, about being 'squared', I'm feeling my corners getting rounder with every shallow flashy release they make now. I'm practically circular now.

However SE will continue to be my guiding light as a visual game artist, that is one department where they remain king.


Edited, Sep 14th 2010 11:16am by RattyBatty
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#14 Sep 14 2010 at 7:35 AM Rating: Decent
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Hmm

FF1 NES
FF1 Gameboy
FF2 SNES
Secret of Mana SNES
FF3 SNES
FF3 Gameboy
Chrono Trigger SNES
Secret of Evermore SNES
FF7 PC
FF8 PC
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(had a secret affair with Bioware D&D games)
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FF9 cracked playstation discs and played on PC with crappy emulator. Yeah I needed a FF fix bad;
FF11 PC
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FF14 PC (bought a new omfgwtfbbq pc just for some game)
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To answer seriously, the games I played and completed were:

FFIX > FFVII > FFVIII > FFX > Kingdom Hearts > FFXI > FFXII > Chrono Trigger > FFXIII

I tried Tactics Advanced and FFX-2 but I didn't care for them.

I bought FFIX by chance; I didn't do any research on it I was young and liked the cover art.
The first time I played it I played it I became frustrated and ended up setting it aside for a few months.
I had played Pokemon before so it wasn't my first RPG, but it was much less linear feeling and it wasn't always easy to figure out where to go or what to do.

FFIX and FFVII
Everyone's favorite FF game seems to be FFVII but I've always liked FFIX more.
I think FFVII has the best hero, but I prefer FFIX's design and story.
The Materia system wasn't bad but there were very few limits on what abilities each character could learn.

I liked FFIX's system where you learned abilities by obtaining equipment and gaining EXP while using it.
There were some abilities that multiple characters could learn but there were a lot of unique abilities that added depth to the characters that used them.

I know some people didn't like the system because they ended up not using some of the characters they found more aesthetically appealing because of their abilities.
There are a lot of ways this could have addressed though without using systems like the Sphere Grid.

FFVIII
My favorite thing about this game was the Weapon Skill system.
Weapon Skills, or Limit Breaks, were much more interactive than the other games and fun to use.
Squall's Renzokuken was my personal favorite.

FFX
Great game, horrible ending, horrible sequel to fix horrible ending.
I missed exploring an open map with an Airship.
The Sphere Grid system was broken because you could get unlimited attribute spheres.
For example; My mages had maxed strength spheres and did max damage every hit.

FFXII
I hated how they used an ADB (Active Dimension Battle) system similar to that of FFXI instead of the Random Encounter system used in previous titles.
(An ADB system is a system where all monsters in the zone are visible and fights are fought in real time instead of shifting to a battle screen, I don't like this system because the graphics seem much better in a Random Encounter system.)

FFXIII
There were a lot of things I didn't like this game:

*The Crystarium
*The Synthisis System
*The Summoning System
*The Linearity
*The Fact that the final cap wasn't raised until after the last boss.
(By this point I had every hunt completed except one and it did not seem like a good enough reason to grind all of that EXP)
*The support jobs
You know, when every job became available to every character, but at lower level caps.
*The Auto Battle system
There were some good aspects but overall I found it too easy.

Some of the things I did like were:
That I ended up using every character because while the characters shared multiple roles every character had a role they were more proficient at.
I also really enjoyed the story and I liked was happy with the increased amount of Animated Cutscenes.

TL;TR (My Opinion)
*I miss driving an airship.
*I would like Weapon Skill systems to be more interactive like they were in FFVIII.
*I hope they keep using the Random Encounter system
*I wish they would keep customization in the MMOs and add more depth to the characters in offline games.
*I personally don't like keeping a summoned monster out, I wish they would just use the old system;
A short Animated Cutscene, followed by a barrage of dammage.
*FFXIII was too linear; I like a focused story line but I don't want to be constantly pushed through it.
*I liked the Auto Battle system, I hope they improve upon it and make it a little more interactive.

Edited, Sep 14th 2010 1:21pm by Osanshouo
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I tried Tactics Advanced and FFX-2 but I didn't care for them.


Not much to say on X-2 as I feel your pain, however may I suggest giving regular Tactics on the PS1 a try? It really is significantly better than the advanced game though personal I still like both. The PSP version has a lot added and fixed but...has the worst frame rate issue ever. If you can deal with uber slower gameplay than normal every time you or the computer cast a spell then go for it. Otherwise, I would personally take the errors in dialog, lack of cutscenes, and lack of the additional class to avoid such a horrible annoyance.

Sorry if that is a tad off topic but it is a shame to see someone only play the advanced games and not the original Tactics.

Edited, Sep 14th 2010 10:55am by Icare
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Lets see, for me I started off with FF1 back in the old NES days, although it wasn't my first rpg (that credit goes to Dragon Warrior as it was called here in the states back then) but I did enjoy it more than DW.

When the SNES came out I remember seeing FFII (FFIV) and renting it from the store. I was blown away, fantastic game and I played all the way through. Next I found Secret of Mana and absolutely LOOOVED it, although it can be VERY easy when you figure out the constant magic attack bug the game was still awesome and had fantastic music. I remember trying out secret of evermore and while it was a pretty good game (followed the SoM formula pretty well) I just didn't get anywhere near as much enjoyment out of it as SoM, never did finish it.

I don't remember if I played Super Mario RPG before FFVI but either way I really loved mario RPG, really great game and had a super addictive mini game in it. FFVI...oh man still my favorite FF game to date, everything about this was top notch for me, the graphics (for the time), music, gameplay, lovable characters, heart-wrenching moments....truly an epic game that will live in my heart forever. And finally at the end of the life for the SNES I rented Chrono Trigger through the duration of playing through it, fantastic game, while I still like FFVI a tad bit more, its still one of square's best.

Around the PS1 days I was well aware of the impending FFVII release and promptly frothed at the mouth like a rabid fanboy (which between the SNES and PS1 days I easily admit I was with square) for every tidbit of info that came out for it. When I did get the game I absolutely LOVED it to death, playing it through multiple times. Still thought VI was better, but at the time it was my 2nd fave FF game. After VII I don't recall which I got into next Saga Frontier or FFTactics. Saga while a fun game was just retardedly unbalanced, I had real trouble making it anywhere in the game and never got close to finishing. Also found out about emulators around this time and found a patched version of FFV and went back and really enjoyed that. The job system was really cool, and gave you a lot of options on how to make your characters.

FFTactics though...wow, completely took me by surprise. At first I thought it was kind of stupid with the strategy/rpg gameplay as opposed to the traditional turn based battles, but I stuck with it and played the **** out of this game. Played through multiple times using many different jobs, the game had fantastic music, overall one of my fave FF games along with VI and IX. Quite a few square games came out and I tried and liked nearly all of them. If it had square's name attached to it, I'd get it, and in that time it was with good reason because a lot of their stuff was pretty **** good imo.

These included (in no particular order because I don't recall releases)Bushido Blade (fun but awkward); Xenogears (another game that is one of square's best, such a **** good game); Chocobo's mystery dungeon (pretty fun but tedious); Brave Fencer Musashi (great game, even though main character's voice was a bit...much at times); Vagrant Story (another fantastic square game, deserves a sequel i'm sure we'll never see); Saga Frontier 2 (really really improved from first, game turned out to be really good, played all the way through); Einhander (what a shooter from square? and its awesome? sweet!); Chrono Cross (a good game, not nearly as memorable as chrono trigger though =( ); Parasite Eve 1 & 2(both really fun games, a completely different approach with their claimed "survival RPG" or w/e it was back then :P); Front Mission 3 (another strategy RPG and its awesome, just played through this again recently) there might be more but I can't think of any, imo the PS1 was square's true glory days of games.

When FF8 rolled out I was hit back quite a bit. While I liked the aspect of fighting for your summons, triple triad, and the junction system, I felt overall the story and characters were not as memorable as past games. A good game yes, but one of the weaker FF games. FFIX on the other hand was back in full force with me, another fantastic game which I easily call my 2nd fave FF game. The PS2 era started to slow my blind love for square. The bouncer was very disappointing despite the hype it received; FFX while a good game, was another weak FF game imo (blitzball rocked though!); Unlimited Saga really disappointing; FFX-2 really irked me, of all games they chose to make a direct sequel to it was X, and then it turned out really crappy, did not like it at all. Not all was lost though, they did pump out Kingdom Hearts 1 & 2 and although I hear some people loathe it, I really enjoyed FFXII.

I don't have a PS3,PSP or 360 and missed some of their more recent stuff, I do have a GBA/DS and there are some good things on there but this post is more than long enough as it is.

TL;DR:
The SNES-PS1 period is when I was a rabid Square fanboy, with stuff like FFVI, Secret of Mana, Chrono Trigger, Xenogears, FFIX, FFTactics and many more.

Edited, Sep 14th 2010 10:52am by Ipwnrice
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Not much to say on X-2 as I feel your pain, however may I suggest giving regular Tactics on the PS1 a try?

I've actually been thinking about trying some more of the older titles after playing Chrono Trigger, Chrono Cross and Anthology mainly, I'll have to try tactics out as well.
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Not much to say on X-2 as I feel your pain, however may I suggest giving regular Tactics on the PS1 a try?

I've actually been thinking about trying some more of the older titles after playing Chrono Trigger, Chrono Cross and Anthology mainly, I'll have to try tactics out as well.


Chrono stuff was great, tactics takes a bit to get into, picks up later in the game
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#20 Sep 14 2010 at 10:13 AM Rating: Good
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The Final Fantasy Legend, Final Fantasy Legend II, Final Fantasy Adventure, Final Fantasy Legend III, Rad Racer, Final Fantasy, Final Fantasy Tactics Advance, Final Fantasy Mystic Quest, Secret of Mana, Final Fantasy VI, Breath of Fire, Chrono Trigger, Secret of Evermore, Final Fantasy Tactics, SaGa Frontier, Final Fantasy VII, Einhänder, Xenogears, Tobal No. 1, Bushido Blade, Brave Fencer Musashi, Final Fantasy VIII, Legend of Mana, Chrono Trigger, Chrono Cross, Parasite Eve, Parasite Eve II, Vagrant Story, Final Fantasy IX, The Bouncer
Final Fantasy X



Even though I've left a few out I've played every Final Fantasy either on the original console or by emulator. That isn't to say they were all good. My favorite JRPG might be Suikoden 1 and 2. One reason is that they go for about $100 on ebay. :)

In any case, I got into Square games, more specifically JRPGS (it's a link to my personal blog feel free to remove mods, I also apologize for any FFXIII bashing) just by chance.

Square games just appealed to me in a way western RPGs didn't. I think a big part of that was was a teenage angsty desire to be different.

But another big part was the fact (as the OP alludes to) that Amano and Uematsu's art and music were/are brilliant and refreshing in contrast to every other game out there.

I remember NOT playing and looking over illustrations (Brady guide, what what) and listening to the in game music with the game sitting at idle.

And that's what I remember most from these games and that's how I became a Square.

Edited, Sep 14th 2010 12:26pm by Kierk
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Even though I've left a few out I've played every Final Fantasy either on the original console or by emulator. That isn't to say they were all good. My favorite JRPG might be Suikoden 1 and 2. One reason is that they go for about $100 on ebay. :)


Sucks, i used to have those games, plus original copy of Xenogears and Vagrant Story lol

Edit: also got FF with the "black lable" not the greatest hits, saw that it was worth a lot too (too bad i spilled soda on the booklet)

Edited, Sep 14th 2010 12:22pm by Myzldas
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Secret of mana. I spent all summer when I was 10 playing that game with a neighborhood friend. We had 5 of 8 level 9 weapons. Still a game I can sit down and play through to the end now and then.

From there I went to final fantasy 6, that was when the world became square. Then Chrono Trigger... both games I can play through whenever the mood strikes (usually after one of the songs from the sound track plays randomly on iTunes.)

I bought my psx just for 7, though suikoden 1 and 2 helped... and xenogears.

I'm a bit jaded now, after 8, and 10... and 13... And what they have done to 11... But my ears still perk up whenever I hear of a Square game.
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Totally forgot tactics... <3 tactics. Though I hate what the world of ivalice became in tactics advance...
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Kierk wrote:



Even though I've left a few out I've played every Final Fantasy either on the original console or by emulator. That isn't to say they were all good. My favorite JRPG might be Suikoden 1 and 2. One reason is that they go for about $100 on ebay. :)


Oh wow really? I never knew that, I still have my original copy of Suikoden 2 (and it is great btw!). I should go back and see how much some of my PS1 games are worth on ebay. I still have xenogears and quite a few of the squaresoft games I listed, although I would never sell them.
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Totally forgot tactics... <3 tactics. Though I hate what the world of ivalice became in tactics advance...


I agree with ya, also dont like the nintendo DS versions of parts 1 and so on.. just dont like that graphic style with the old timey games
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#26 Sep 14 2010 at 10:28 AM Rating: Decent
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How did you become a Square?
They cornered me.
Hahaha, well done sir.

As ashamed as I am to say it, my first FF game was FF7 for PC back in ~1998. It wasn't ported very well (all the controls described in-game used PS2 button names, so I had a **** of a time getting Bahamut ZERO), but it was very fun, and one of my first introductions to the new 3d RPG genre (back when going from 2d to 3d was a big deal).

Edited, Sep 14th 2010 11:43am by bsphil
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#27 Sep 14 2010 at 10:40 AM Rating: Good
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Kind of off topic but I don't think I've seen anyone mention the Dragon Quest series.
I know they were Enix games and not Squaresoft, but I wondered if they were any good.
I think the DS one was supposed to have done really well but I could be mistaking.
I've always kind of resented Enix because I felt the quality of the FF series started to decline after the merge.
I've never had a chance to really play an Enix game though so maybe that's not entirely fair.
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I was thinking about this the other day, that I have been playing a square game at some point during the year for every year since the 1990s. The thing is I didn't think about it then, I didn't purchase the games because they were square, they just happened to be exactly what I was looking for to play. But I guess when it really boils down to it now, I think SE has me by the balls pretty good. I'm not going anywhere.
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I've never had a chance to really play an Enix game though so maybe that's not entirely fair.
Illusion of Gaia for the SNES was an Enix game, and I really enjoyed that. Would recommend playing it on an emulator if you hadn't.
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Kind of off topic but I don't think I've seen anyone mention the Dragon Quest series.
I know they were Enix games and not Squaresoft, but I wondered if they were any good.
I think the DS one was supposed to have done really well but I could be mistaking.
I've always kind of resented Enix because I felt the quality of the FF series started to decline after the merge.
I've never had a chance to really play an Enix game though so maybe that's not entirely fair.


I personally thought the merge was just as fatal for Enix as a singular company. The Star Ocean series, in my opinion, was utterly amazing until the merge... then this... contraption called Star Ocean 3 ruined it for me. :(
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Ah yes Suikoden 2...I nearly fell out of my seat when I found out the game my bf paid $3 for was now worth over $100. Defiantly a must play if you can afford it but sadly, I'm sure it is a steep price. ^^;

I am really happy to see the opinions here so open a diverse compared to what I am used to hearing about when I talk to Final Fantasy fans. In fact, I got mocked once by a whole linkshell in FFXI simply because I did not think of FFVII as the best Final Fantasy. :/

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I played 1 and 2 and really liked them, but when I got my Genesis, I kinda let my SNES collect dust for awhile.
I think it was just because most of my friends had a Sega, and we all bought the same games. Then Chronotrigger came out. Man I loved that game. It was really a step above at that point.
I didn't play another FF game for quite some time after FF2. When VII came out, my friends were all gushing over it, so I picked a copy up. That was all it took, after I finished all the side stuff in that, I went on a mission to play as many previous FF games as I could at the time, and have picked up the old stuff released for DS and PSP as recently as last year. I play the pre-VII at work on an emulator when I'm not busy as well. Not so much a fan of 12 and 13, but they were still very pretty games. I tried Kingdom Hearts, but I think I was too old for the whole Disney characters in my RPG thing. It just didn't feel right, even though the games were very well made. Of course XI stole like 7 years of my life, 1/4 of that probably actual play time, lol.

So they got me, a little bit at a time, but they got me for sure.


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FFVIII. Hooked me in and loved final fantasy since.

Favorites: FFVIII and X. Kingdom hearts 1 and 2. Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross. Super Mario RPG.

Horrible Titles: FFX-2. Unlimited Saga. The Last Remnant.

Honorable Mentions: FF Crystal Chronicles(had such potential but something was missing. Music is amazing though). FFXII(A great game but i always felt it was lacking heavily in the music. And everyone knows ff music is like 1/2 the experience)
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FFXII(A great game but i always felt it was lacking heavily in the music. And everyone knows ff music is like 1/2 the experience)
Really? I always thought FFXII had one of the most epic soundtracks of any FF game.
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Well i definitely didn't hate it :P It was a great soundtrack i was just hoping for some more of the calm tranquil sounding stuff. XII had an "adventure" sound to me. I always felt like i was watching star wars (not a bad thing haha)
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First Square game that really caught my attention was actually Seiken Densetsu 3 (Secret of Mana 2) JP version. That was before I came to US and was still living in Hong Kong. A friend who got it and every time I went to his place I will play the game with him. The class change system was awesome and those boss fight was epic....and the music....YES!

After I came to US...I managed to snatched myself FF1 and had a lot of fun with it. I can't remember how many times I finished the game, but it sure was fun enough to keep me entertain.

Then it is college time, and the only game system I had was....GAME BOY! So one Christmas I got myself FFIII for game boy...and once again...beat the game so many times I could play it blind folded. I think I had managed to play with all the monster class. Later on...my gf back then inherited a Super Nintendo from her brother with a ROM unit...and load and behold...one of the ROM he had was Seiken Densetsu 3. Yup...I whored out that game too.

I then went back home for 2 weeks and my friend got himself FF7 (also JP version). I didn't get to play much but I still remember when he strolled out of Nibelheim...started a battle...and summoned Bahamut...then blasted everything to pieces. I was so blown away I wanted to play this game....but too bad my flight back to the US was next day morning.

I was determine to get FF7...but before that, in the stash of ROM I had for Super Nintendo...I found another gem....FF6. That had to be THE best FF game ever. The world was huge...the story was good...and I have tons and tons and tons of characters to choose from. No...this time I didn't whored out the game...I only managed to finish it once. But I sunk so much time in the game to level my characters...a few of them can do 9999 damage each hit...and they all do multiple hits per round xD

Then I finally saved enough money to get FF7 along with a PS1. It was hard to decide which was better...7 or 6. But at the end...I choose 6 because while 7 was epic...I still like 6 just a little bit better.

VIII came a few years later but it never caught me like 6 or 7. The story was still pretty good...the graphic sure were better...but it seems to the graphic and story went into opposite direction.

Then came IX...never really care about it...not sure why.

X came when I already had the PS2...I finished it once...and decided other then Rikku..the rest of the characters were unlovable. Again...graphic got better...story got worse. And boy...X2 was such a disappointment I didn't play the game for more then 20mins....what a waste of my $20 buying it used.

XI...and I was sucked in again. This is what FF is suppose to like. Expensive..Massive...Pretty! Until I got burnt out playing this game for years. Just not enough time to do the grinding for the epic gears.

XII...It was pretty good.....until 3/4 of the way...I just couldn't give a crap anymore.

XIII...Much better this time around..with the exception of the world being somewhat smallish. Story was ok...not as epic as 6 or 7...but certainly better then lol X and lol X2.





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X came when I already had the PS2...I finished it once...and decided other then Rikku..the rest of the characters were unlovable. Again...graphic got better...story got worse. And boy...X2 was such a disappointment I didn't play the game for more then 20mins....what a waste of my $20 buying it used.


Really?
I really loved FFX's story until the ending, here it is years later and it's still disappointing to think about.
I only rented FFX-2 and didn't play it for very long because I was so disgusted with it, I did however watch the endings on You Tube and I guess they did sort of fix the ending if you completed everything.
IMO it is extremely lame that in a game which is only relevant because of the horrible ending of it's predecessor, there are multiple endings, some of which are still completely unsatisfying.

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XII...It was pretty good.....until 3/4 of the way...I just couldn't give a crap anymore.

XIII...Much better this time around..with the exception of the world being somewhat smallish. Story was ok...not as epic as 6 or 7...but certainly better then lol X and lol X2.

Completely agree with you there, as I said in a previous post I hated the absence of Random Encounters in FF12.
I also didn't get much use out of the summons and the final boss was extremely weak.
FFXIII had it's problems, but I consider it the best game since FFX personally.

I really wish they would go back to the summoning system used in 7-9, or at least let you keep two of your characters in the field at the same time.
It seems like these days they either aren't doing enough damage to be worth your time or cost too much to maintain.
The way they were portrayed as Transformers knock offs in FFXIII was also sickening.
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But you still remember it years later... think Square made enough impression on ya lol

i felt XII was great graphics but HORRIBLE storyline.. just couldn't feel a 'connection' with any of the characters like almost all the previous FF games.

I took X-2 for more of a quirky game that they were trying to have fun with, but the gameplay and job system was kinda fun to play with at times.

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Yes, sort of like the impression someone would make if they took a **** on my birthday cake. ._.
#40 Sep 14 2010 at 1:27 PM Rating: Excellent
Final Fantasy VI was my gateway drug/game. I never had a video game console before my grandma gave us a SNES for Christmas in 1993. She knew we probably wouldn't do our homework if we had it, but we were at her house as much as our own because our parents both worked, so she labeled the package "To: Grandma's house and those who play there From: Santa". Anyway, the only games we had were Super Mario World, Zelda and Rampart and while I liked them, I wasn't hooked on gaming. later that year though, I decided to mail in the voucher for a free issue of Nintendo Power that came with our SNES, and I received this issue of Nintendo Power:

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My life would never be the same, and who knows what I'd be like today if I hadn't read it. Inside, I found the third part of a walk through of FF3US (and the totally rad Demon's Crest, but it was FF3 that blew my little gamer mind), and I thought that the art and their descriptions of the characters and what was going on (even though it was fairly spoiler-free and only covered the second half of the game) seemed so much cooler than anything I'd ever seen. I'd seen a friend playing FF2US at his house once, but I didn't really get a chance to find out much about it because all of my friends had consoles, but wanted to go out and play sports if they had friends over when we were that age...

Anyway, I begged my grandma to get me a copy of FF3 for my birthday, which was about a half a year away, but it was 70-80 bucks (I can't remember which) and that was around twice the price of more other games at the time, so she told me she'd buy it if I saved and paid half. You can bet your *** I saved for months to meet that goal, and when my birthday came in summer of 1995, I was cemented as a gamer with no possibility of turning back.

Over the years, the Final Fantasy series has kinda sucked. I still found all that I played (haven't tried 13 thank god) to be mostly enjoyable, though the only games since FFVI that are really favorites of mine are FFVII, FFIX and of course the crack that is FFXI. The others, while having a lot of fun things in them, have a LOT of things I could gripe about if I felt it was worth the effort. I eventually went back and played the older games in the Final Fantasy series during the Playstation era, and by the time the PS2 came out, the majority of my games for my SNES and PSX were square titles. I did have some other classics like Breath of Fire III and IV though.

Thankfully, there were other games that helped me realize that the RPG world wasn't square. I stumbled across a copy of Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete when I went to reserve FFVIII in summer of 1999 and I was unfamiliar with anime other than having seen some Pokemon as a teenager, but I looked at the box and new I had to spend a ton of money on it. Once again, my mind was blown.

I received a copy of Fallout 2 for Christmas in 2000 (I think) and that was my first real experience with western video RPGs... well there was Diablo, but I got bored with it fairly quickly. Fallout was probably fist experience playing a REAL RPG where you actually have the freedom to create your character any way you choose, and decide how you'll progress. I loved it, but to this day, I can't sit down and attempt to play a real pen and paper RPG... I get too distracted.

The last big game that changed my view of RPGs was Suikoden. I was short on cash in 2002, and I decided to sell a lot of the games I no longer played. While I was at the used game/music store, I saw a copy of Suikoden for sale and I thought I'd give it a go since they'd priced it at like $10. It quickly became what I'm confident is my favorite video game series to this day. I liked the story, the characters, the music, the magic and abttle systems. It had been a few years since I'd played a game that I was so interested in and that I didn't have any negative feelings toward. The series has had its low points later on, but even then they weren't really bad like with some series.

In the years that followed, I was introduced to Baldur's Gate, Skies of Arcadia, Baten Kaitos and many other wonderful RPGs, both from the East and the West (especially once I got into emulation and started playing older games and fan translations like Star Ocean). I'm glad I learned to thing outside of the box(square).

I think the closest I ever came to being a tabletop gamer was playing Key to the Kingdom, Heroquest and Battlemaster as a kid, but video games pretty much killed my going that route in gaming. Now the only tabletop stuff I do is playing Settlers of Catan with my family when we're all able to get together.




tl:dr version:

Hooked at FFVI, life would never be the same. Lunar, Suikoden and Fallout helped me see the light that Square wasn't the be-all-end-all of video RPGs. I don't know what my life would have been like if I hadn't opened that magazine in December of 1994.

EDIT: Fixed the year I got my SNES. I wrote 2003 instead of 1993...

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Yes, sort of like the impression someone would make if they took a sh*t on my birthday cake. ._.


i didnt say it was a GOOD impression... just an impression LoL
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With me it was Final Fantasy X. I had never heard of Final Fantasy before this and tbh I was barely a gamer before the Nintendo 64 era, even the Playstation 2 and Sony was a very new concept to me at the time. I saw a friend of mine playing FFX once and thought it was very weird - I couldn't grasp the concept of turn based combat and even random battles, I basically knew nothing about RPGs...it was such a foreign concept to me and I wasn't interested in it at all but one day I saw a commercial for FFX (I think it was on TV or on the internet) and the story trailer drew me in and that is how I fell in love with Final Fantasy. I don't necessarily agree with everything the company does but I don't think I've ever been completely disappointed by any product they've put out (that I've played) - to this day I consider myself a SE fan and not an RPG fan...I've tried countless times playing other various RPGs and just never got into them save for a couple american RPGs.

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I actually forgot to mention X-2. For me it was a temporary 'up' in the downard opinion of their games. Not because of the story (there was a story?) not because of the 90% cash-in reused content...

It was because the battle system for the first time felt 'fluid'. That is to say the way your characters didn't always go back to 'starting position', sometimes the battle would become a tangle of your characters and enemies. I thought that was nice. Also the way the game didn't wait for everyone to individually do their attacks, oftentimes you would attack an enemy at the same time an enemy attacked you, which was also cool and sometimes led to lol-double-ko's.

In general battle just felt a lot more 'real time' and less robotic compared to every FF before it. Me and my sister had a lot of tense moments in some hardcore battles against special bosses etc.

I also thought the job change system was fun, with everything that went along with it (grids/classes/upgrades). So in general, I have a lot of respect for the battle system in X-2, but not much else about it (especially the lame story) :P.


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I'm sorry but I just got to have a few more laughs at the expense of FFXIII's Gestalt Modes.

"Gee, my fire breathing demon isn't working. I know, I'll turn him into a car and run um over!"
There's also a scene there near the end where they're all running in their Gestalt Modes modes and they just look completely ridiculous, I was half expecting them to form into a Megazord.
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Way back in the very early days of the SNES, my friend introduced me to a game which I had passed over without thought. That game was Final Fantasy II US (JP IV).

This game never came out over here (UK), but we were using disk copy systems to play games from over the world (I haven't pirated a game for a long while and don't condone it but back then, eh, we were young).

It was a different sort of game compared to the usual out at the time, and the simple tile based sprites only seemed add charm to the wonderful story.

Since then I was hooked, but thoroughly disappointed with FF: Mystic Quest, but held out hope for the next Final Fantasy game - Final Fantasy III US (JPVI) which we both picked up on import at a computer games show.

Despite the many changes and ups and downs I have faithfully followed their works, through their many non RPG creations (Einhander remains one of my all time favourite shooters) as well as related mechandise (FF OSTs VI through to XIII for example).

While I haven't completed every one of the games I've played, the list of their games that I've played is extensive. (I did start compiling a list of them and realised it was way too many and pointless.) Not all of their games are brilliant, but I'll always have a special weakness for them.

Front Mission 4, Secret of Mana, Final Fantasy VI and Einhander are in my top 10 all time favourite games.

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FF1 but I'm gobbed smacked to know Square and Mario hold hands. I own X2 and still haven't played it for some reason i feel it'll be like playing a Barbie horse game but I'll play it some day.
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I don't remember which one it was, probably FF1, but I used to play it on my brother's Gameboy. This was exceptionally annoying though, because he had this freakish habit of smashing his Gameboy on his forehead when he was frustrated. That was the end of me playing until he could save up to buy another one.
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I don't remember which one it was, probably FF1, but I used to play it on my brother's Gameboy. This was exceptionally annoying though, because he had this freakish habit of smashing his Gameboy on his forehead when he was frustrated. That was the end of me playing until he could save up to buy another one.


did.. your brother wear a football helmet and cowboy boots by chance? lol

Just playing..

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Over the years, the Final Fantasy series has kinda sucked. I still found all that I played (haven't tried 13 thank god) to be mostly enjoyable
I really loved playing FF13. It departs from the standard FF formula a tad by staying fast-paced and linear til about 2/3rds through the game, which is where I think is where people tend to dislike it (people felt the same way about Metroid Prime going to a FPS and breaking away from the 2D sidescroller style, and I could never understand why that was such a huge deal). If the game was released by a different company and not under the Final Fantasy series, I think people would have been a lot more positive about the game. Finding Oerba and listening to the music for that zone was up there as one of the more depressing and heart-wrenching moments of gameplay that I can recall from any game I've played.
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I honestly became a Square what I consider to be later then I should have but around when there fanbase probably grew the most and that was with FFVII. After I got obsessed with that game I was hooked played FFVII, FFVIII, FFIX, FFX, FFX-2, FFXI, FFXII, FFXIII, Kingdom Hearts I&II, Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep, Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories, Kingdom Hearts 358/2, Bouncer (I actually thought this was descent), Final Fantasy Chronicles, Final Fantasy Anthology, Chrono Cross, Last Remnant, Infinite Undiscovery and more that I can't think of. I really love the games that they come out with mainly because the stories they have to tell are in depth and simply amazing that I get lost in them and can't wait for more. As of late I've been dissappointed with the last couple FF's and dissappointed that KH3 hasn't been announced for PS3 yet sick of all the side games on multiple systems. I built a new PC for XIV and am on the Beta which I'm a little concerned about since I will compare it to XI knowing that it is a new game and not XI-2 but will compare it to it regardless because I loved XI. Anyways didn't mean to go off topic but I've played a fair share of Square games and will play many more as they make them.
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FF 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,9,10,11 (played and hated 12 & 13 and never could really get into 8).
I did not touch FFX-2
Absolute favorite was FFTactics.
Chrono Trigger, Chrono Cross
Vagrant Story
A few of the DragonQuest titles
Xenogears
Saga Frontier 1&2
Bouncer

Squaresoft/SquareEnix has been my favorite game producer with Koei and EA Games following closely behind.


One game not made by Square but is among the top of my list was Alundra for the PS1. That game was awesome! I have been searching for a copy of that game for years.

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