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#52 Sep 16 2010 at 9:12 PM Rating: Decent
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Only a handul of the people who are sticking to the keyboard and mouse have actually tried FFXIV with a gamepad and found it lacking.

I prefer the gamepad. It is severely lacking. Why are there 16 actions for a 14-button controller? Why is there no radial hotbar? Why are there no hotbar shortcuts?

Don't get me wrong - I still prefer the controller. I just don't see why I have to compromise.
#53 Sep 16 2010 at 10:25 PM Rating: Good
Olorinus the Vile wrote:

Just for the record I wouldn't go so far as saying I am a member of "the controller crowd"

I just heard reports that the UI seems to make more "sense" and is easier to use with a controller, so I tried it. It is working really well for me.

Ideally I would prefer to be keyboard only - but since controller seems to work better atm, it seems pointless to cling to using keyboard only just because it's my "primary input device."

It sucks that SE hasn't made the interface work equally well for all forms of input... but *shrugs* what can I do about it? I can either keep using my "primary input device" while being frustrated - or I can use a controller and have a better experience. I've chosen to use the controller.

You have the same choice -unless you are too poor to afford a controller - which would be too bad... but maybe save up for one? Or keep using the keyboard/mouse if you want to, I guess.

If you are frustrated you might want to try controller though. Even if you would really prefer to play it with some other input device. It is a bit silly to rage at people who like to play with controller though. I mean, stow the passive aggressive thing. It isn't as if controller users made the game this way - not the ones here anyway.

My issue with the current setup would actually be an issue whether I was using keyboard/mouse or controller. There are too many layered menus for basic tasks. I don't bring up the input lag much because there's no reason to believe at this point that it won't be addressed for the retail version. I've seen videos of people using a controller for combat. Keyboard/mouse works better. I'm already used to WASD + numbers for action bar usage, and I use the mouse to turn and adjust my view when necessary. I dislike the heavy emphasis on list menus for everything.

As far as this discussion goes, I'm just amused by the hypocrisy of so many people who say, "Get a controller it was made for controller just get a controller it's so much better with a controller" and then turn around and say they don't want to see keyboard/mouse users get any sort of advantage. They like the advantage they have based on their preferred input device and rather than being objective about it they just tell everyone to get a controller, but what do you think they'd say if SE revamped the UI in such a way as to heavily favor keyboard/mouse for the PC version of the game? Like I said...I don't want an advantage, I just want something that is streamlined and intuitive, which is not something I can say for the present menu layout.
#54 Sep 17 2010 at 4:23 AM Rating: Decent
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You can use a wireless just fine, you just need a little 20 dollar adapter.
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#55 Sep 17 2010 at 4:49 AM Rating: Decent
I really cannot stand using a keyboard/mouse in most games, then again I come from console gaming so a controller is common for me. Some MMOs that don't support a controller I'll use a keyboard and mouse for but I still prefer a controller. I've got both a logitech wireless mouse and keyboard so cords aren't really a problem for me. I've also got a USB extender plugged into my controller too so I can easily relax on my bed and play on my TV if I prefer. While I enjoy playing on PC sometimes you just wanna play somewhere more comfortable. Now I just need to actually get around to cleaning up my room so I can actually play that way.

BTW, I have an old grey plastic mouse pad from Mario Paint I use when away from the PC, works wonders. :P
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#56 Oct 07 2010 at 4:53 PM Rating: Good
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I felt the need to dig this thread out of oblivion in honor of my avatar. Yay for Premium!

Finding an awesome (not overly-used) 100x100 pixel FF thumbnail is not easy.

Does anyone know what the actual avatar size limit is? 120x120?

Edited, Oct 7th 2010 6:54pm by RufuSwho
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