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#1 Sep 15 2010 at 1:54 PM Rating: Good
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Catalyst 10.9 Released
Release notes state
"Negative Crossfire scaling in Final Fantasy XIV no Longer Occurs"
So this should be good for crossfire users and people with 5970's, now i just cant wait to go home and try it out, also dont forget to download the new CrossfireX Application Profiles.
#2 Sep 15 2010 at 2:13 PM Rating: Decent
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thanks for the heads up - installing now
#3 Sep 15 2010 at 2:21 PM Rating: Good
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I wonder if this will help with the grayscreen of death I receive every now and then on my laptop when playing ff14
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#4 Sep 15 2010 at 6:35 PM Rating: Decent
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Well I did end up updating it (I have a ATI Radeon HD 5870) and while screen tearing wasn't really the problem for me, I'm still getting the stuttering so that didn't fix it. My FPS outside of any town is a smooth 60 most of the time, but as soon as I go into one of the nations it will drop to a steady 30 and my character will start stuttering/lagging every 10 seconds or so. I was hoping this new update will fix it but it didn't.

My next course of action is my SSD drive that is coming in tomorrow. I got the Intel 80gig one so I'm hoping that inproves some of this stuttering BS. :(
#5 Sep 15 2010 at 11:52 PM Rating: Good
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Thanks for the post!

Seeing a gain of as much as 15fps around very crowded aetheryte hubs & town markets, here. Lowest it managed to drop was to 46fps, where prior it could dip to as low as 31fps with a comparable amount (Actually more than usual, this time) of nearby players. Everywhere else remains 60fps, as it was with 10.4/5/8s (1920x1080, 4xAA, AO off, rest max). Was a very nice surprise to start the night off. Here's hoping the next round of profiles + client patches sees even more improvement!

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I'm still getting the stuttering so that didn't fix it


Hmm, you're the first ATI user I've read about experiencing stuttering in this game. I was trying to help some other posters troubleshoot their stuttering in a couple other posts recently. They were all Nvidia users though...Could very well be a server-client issue after all, as others have suggested. Curious though, which 5870 do you own, and how much memory does it have?

Nonetheless, grats on your SSD! Hopefully it helps with FFXIV, and if it doesn't, at least everything else you install on it should see performance gains! ^_^
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#6 Sep 16 2010 at 12:24 AM Rating: Good
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No noticeable difference over 10.8 for me (5870 CF). Other than the fact that you have to turn catalyst AI from advanced to off to get the same results as 10.8, at least for me. Still getting spikes in towns, still zero lag outside of town as before. Though I don't happen to see that weird distorted line across my screen anymore.
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#8 Sep 16 2010 at 7:37 PM Rating: Good
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you have to turn catalyst AI from advanced to off to get the same results as 10.8


Eh...do you know if you do that, you may as well disable CF completely and run a single card config? Have you tried this prog instead to see if it ups your performance?:

**If you're running CCC, set AA/AF to use application settings; Leave Catalyst AI at default/Standard (RadeonPro will override it); Mipmap Detail to Quality; Vsync default/Off, unless app specifies (Override again); AA Mode to Multi-sample**

-Download and install RadeonPro.
-Create a new profile and point it to your ffxivgame.exe.
-Under the "Advanced Tab," put a check-mark in the "Catalyst AI" box and move the slider to "Advanced." Then put a check down in the "CrossfireX Settings" box.
-Switch to the "Tweaks" tab and under "Direct3D Tweaks," put a check in both "Force Vsync" & "Force Triple Buffering." Then under "MVPU Mode" adjust the slider to the "Alternate Frame Rendering" mode.
-Run the game.


**If you want, you can toss a check in the "Disable Aero" box. I tried it but didn't notice a difference either way. "Force Process High Priority" also did nothing noticeable for me. Of course, your mileage may vary. Good luck!**

This is assuming you're running either 10.8 + 10.8a profiles and/or 10.9 + 10.9 profiles (Emphasis on installing both the drivers and the CF profiles).

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#9 Sep 16 2010 at 7:46 PM Rating: Good
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Has anyone else had the graphic settings project the picture larger sized after switching to 10.9?

I have dual displays setup an Acer 24" monitor running at 1920x1200 which when launching FFXIV looks perfectly fine with the correct aspect ratio, but I also have a Samsung 52" LCD set as my second display and that setting is setup as 1080p. Under 10.8 the picture looked perfect in window format, but now with 10.9 it has slightly increased in size so my edges are getting cut-off, especially at the bottom.

Any suggestions on fixing?
#10 Sep 16 2010 at 7:48 PM Rating: Decent
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Game crashes immediately now, including the benchmark. :\
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#11 Sep 16 2010 at 8:29 PM Rating: Good
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Hey fellas, I just wanted to let you know that the stuttering in towns probably isn't ATI cards/drivers. I'm having the same exact problem with the gtx 470 with all 2010 drivers.

Perfectly fine outside of towns though.
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#12 Sep 16 2010 at 8:38 PM Rating: Good
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Well I did end up updating it (I have a ATI Radeon HD 5870) and while screen tearing wasn't really the problem for me, I'm still getting the stuttering so that didn't fix it. My FPS outside of any town is a smooth 60 most of the time, but as soon as I go into one of the nations it will drop to a steady 30 and my character will start stuttering/lagging every 10 seconds or so. I was hoping this new update will fix it but it didn't.

My next course of action is my SSD drive that is coming in tomorrow. I got the Intel 80gig one so I'm hoping that inproves some of this stuttering BS. :(


I love my SSD so much and it was honestly one of the best purchases I've made. I love seeing things open as fast as they do, how fast my computer boots up and such. Having said that, you'll get no performance boost in FFXIV sadly. The handful of times you see "Now Loading..." it'll load faster, but that's all. There's been some speculation that the drop to 30 FPS around busier areas is a network thing. I didn't read the whole discussion but a lot of people seem to think that's it.

Also, I think someone on the forum is bored tonight and just rating people down =p. There's a lot of helpful comments going around trying to help people be ready for release next week. Keep the information flowing!

Edited, Sep 16th 2010 10:48pm by Jeraziah
#13 Sep 16 2010 at 10:09 PM Rating: Good
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Hey fellas, I just wanted to let you know that the stuttering in towns probably isn't ATI cards/drivers. I'm having the same exact problem with the gtx 470 with all 2010 drivers.


Ya, now that I've read about players from both camps experiencing stuttering (previously thought it was just an Nvidia issue, until I read "thegodhand"s post), I'm starting to agree that the blame lies on SE and the way they've set up their client-server negotiations. Especially since most of the players seem to share similar symptoms in that they're experiencing heavy stuttering only when near and/or inside aetheryte hubs and cities.

Could be an issue with loading the npcs themselves? Have either of you two looked at the mini-map while the stuttering occurs? Do they occur exactly when the npc dots appear? And have either of you experienced the stuttering while inside market wards (Wondering if retainers cause the problem as well~)?

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Names are hard to read at a distance, but more crisp now.


Just how far away are you talking about here? Perhaps suggest in the feedback forums that they add different font settings to aid in lower resolution clarity? It honestly seems fine to me, but I always welcome more options in my games.

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This one is the biggie for me! Foliage shimmers.


Hmm, thought this was fixed last weekend (Tree flickering posts)? Unsure if you meant flickering or shimmering as some people get the two confused. If it is shimmering though (as it does sound like from your description of "snow"), try lowering the fps threshold or completely disabling Temporal AA (if you're forcing it through registry/driver hacks or 3rd party tools), or changing Adaptive AA to either Multi-sample or Super-sample. Then check if it still shimmers. Also may want to experiment with disabling CAT AI, since you're not utilizing CF anyways, and see if that improves your visuals without affecting stability. Good luck to ya!

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There's a lot of helpful comments going around trying to help people be ready for release next week. Keep the information flowing!


Ya, these drivers are great for me so far. Didn't expect better drivers so soon after the 10.8s. Glad we have posters keeping such a close eye on things and, more importantly, sharing the good info!
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