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#1 Sep 16 2010 at 12:28 PM Rating: Decent
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Ok i know this video card will be more then enough to play the game. I tried to run a search but couldnt get anything to come up even though i know i've seen threads about it. But my question is about people that have the gtx 470 and played beta. I planned on ordering one today but thought i better ask about how it is working so far. I have heard upper tiered cards have had issues. Just not sure about this one.

I know SE has been working with Nvidia and their drivers and such to optimize each card and that eventually any problems with these cards will be solved. But wondering how the game is running as of now with the 470.

On a side note. Can any one recommend which brand to go with? I have only built one rig so far and primarily used EVGA parts for it with 0 complaints. But wishing for any and all feedback on the different branded 470's. An extra 20 bucks isn't a huge issue if i know the company that built the cards is solid.

Thanks in advance
#2 Sep 16 2010 at 12:37 PM Rating: Good
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Ok i know this video card will be more then enough to play the game. I tried to run a search but couldnt get anything to come up even though i know i've seen threads about it. But my question is about people that have the gtx 470 and played beta. I planned on ordering one today but thought i better ask about how it is working so far. I have heard upper tiered cards have had issues. Just not sure about this one.

I know SE has been working with Nvidia and their drivers and such to optimize each card and that eventually any problems with these cards will be solved. But wondering how the game is running as of now with the 470.

On a side note. Can any one recommend which brand to go with? I have only built one rig so far and primarily used EVGA parts for it with 0 complaints. But wishing for any and all feedback on the different branded 470's. An extra 20 bucks isn't a huge issue if i know the company that built the cards is solid.

Thanks in advance


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My name is Paul, and I use a GTX 470.
It runs the game great, but I do have a problem with horizontal tearing issues in windowed mode. I've tried all the tricks including turning Vsync on, Triple Buffering (I think FFXIV overrides the Nvidia control panel on this one, so it seems to have no effect unless they change that), etc.

Fullscreen looks great, the only problem is windowed mode. It's still a minor issue that will surely be fixed soon I hope.
I'm using the Palit version with the double fan.
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#3 Sep 16 2010 at 12:59 PM Rating: Default
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*Looks around the room nervously, then slowly stands up*
My name is Paul, and I use a GTX 470.
It runs the game great, but I do have a problem with horizontal tearing issues in windowed mode. I've tried all the tricks including turning Vsync on, Triple Buffering (I think FFXIV overrides the Nvidia control panel on this one, so it seems to have no effect unless they change that), etc.

Fullscreen looks great, the only problem is windowed mode. It's still a minor issue that will surely be fixed soon I hope.
I'm using the Palit version with the double fan.


LOL. Thanks Overlord. Is the kind of info i am looking for. Anyone else?
#4 Sep 16 2010 at 1:17 PM Rating: Decent
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I have been thinking of upgrading my GPU as well. Almost want to splurge on the 480 myself but figured maybe buy a 470 now and maybe go SLI down the road when i know the issues are taken care of.

So i would love to see others responses on this as well.
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#5 Sep 16 2010 at 1:31 PM Rating: Good
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Overlord Chialing wrote:


It runs the game great, but I do have a problem with horizontal tearing issues in windowed mode. I've tried all the tricks including turning Vsync on, Triple Buffering (I think FFXIV overrides the Nvidia control panel on this one, so it seems to have no effect unless they change that), etc.

Fullscreen looks great, the only problem is windowed mode. It's still a minor issue that will surely be fixed soon I hope.
I'm using the Palit version with the double fan.


I have a GTX 470, mine is from Zotac.

I have the opposite to your problem, it works fine in windowed mode, but when I use Full screen I get the tearing problems.

Out in the wilderness its works perfect, 60fps, but in the towns I do get stuttering. However I believe many people suffer from this so it's more likely to be SE's engine than the GPU.

edit: While we're asking GTX 470 users. While playing FFXIV my GPU runs at temps around 80-85C. Is this normal or acceptable?

Edited, Sep 16th 2010 3:36pm by scotchio
#6 Sep 16 2010 at 1:38 PM Rating: Excellent
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I currently run three gtx470's I'm tri sli and its a good card when sli is working properly. I have not tried with just 1 card as I run three monitors for 5760x1080 but they crank through the game at that res with AA enabled. All three are evga and I would buy from them again because their warranty rocks and the customer service has been exceptional.
#7 Sep 16 2010 at 1:43 PM Rating: Decent
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Go for GTX 460 1GB in SLI.

Cant beat it for £300.

outperforms the 5970 ATI
#8 Sep 16 2010 at 2:00 PM Rating: Default
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Thanks for the responses, any more input is great from the 470 users. Still on the fence whether to wait or just buy now. Guess it probably doesn't matter a whole lot though. If i do decide to wait i'll probably bump this thread up and get opinions.
#9 Sep 16 2010 at 2:04 PM Rating: Good
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I just upgraded my pc a week or so ago with the gtx 470 and it really is a great card. I have no tearing issues that someone posted above. (Person with tearing issues have you updated to the latest drivers? they came out with a new one in the past 2 weeks) Anyway, I run at high all settings with depth of field on. No ambient occlusion. Its a pretty quiet card compared to my dual 8800gts i upgraded from. It runs pretty cool as well unlike from what I have heard. I also have a very large full tower case with about 6 120mm fans inside so I dunno. but I opted for the 470 opposed to the 460 just to be ahead of the curve slightly. Its a bit more powerful and SLId it'll be even better.

GL with your choice.
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#10 Sep 16 2010 at 2:26 PM Rating: Good
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Tarutinkler wrote:
I just upgraded my pc a week or so ago with the gtx 470 and it really is a great card. I have no tearing issues that someone posted above. (Person with tearing issues have you updated to the latest drivers? they came out with a new one in the past 2 weeks)


Good point. I have installed the new Nvidia beta drivers (was just a few days ago) and only played in windowed since. I haven't tried full screen since updating. To be honest I didn't notice any better performance, but it wasn't any worse either.

I hope and am still confident that SE and Nvidia will work towards optimising the performance. The benchmark has the Nvidia mark on it, so I hope they should be.

One thing I will mention outside of FFXIV, is that the GTX 470 tends to heat up a bit when using more than one monitor.

I checked in the Nvidia forums and it seems to be a common thing.



#11 Sep 16 2010 at 3:30 PM Rating: Good
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scotchio wrote:
[quote=Overlord Chialing]

edit: While we're asking GTX 470 users. While playing FFXIV my GPU runs at temps around 80-85C. Is this normal or acceptable?

Edited, Sep 16th 2010 3:36pm by scotchio


Max temp is 105C. If it hits that, then you are most likely finished.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/2977/nvidia-s-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-6-months-late-was-it-worth-the-wait-/19
#12 Sep 16 2010 at 5:42 PM Rating: Decent
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(Person with tearing issues have you updated to the latest drivers? they came out with a new one in the past 2 weeks)


Yeah, I tried those latest beta drivers. Didn't change anything regarding the tearing, but it seemed to make things a little jerkier (it may have all been in my head honestly), so I rolled back to previous one.
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#13 Sep 16 2010 at 6:04 PM Rating: Excellent
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Parsalyn wrote:
scotchio wrote:
[quote=Overlord Chialing]

edit: While we're asking GTX 470 users. While playing FFXIV my GPU runs at temps around 80-85C. Is this normal or acceptable?

Edited, Sep 16th 2010 3:36pm by scotchio


Max temp is 105C. If it hits that, then you are most likely finished.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/2977/nvidia-s-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-6-months-late-was-it-worth-the-wait-/19


I'm not always looking but usually have afterburner running when I play and when I do check the max has been 85 so far...

And yea, I've had a lot of the same issues others have had, but for someone like me who's a console person mainly, this is easily the best-looking graphics I've had on a computer so I'm lovin' it

Edited, Sep 16th 2010 8:05pm by TwistedOwl
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#14 Sep 16 2010 at 6:04 PM Rating: Good
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I've been running in Open Beta with an EVGA gtx 470. Very good model, and got on a deal through Newegg.

I won't say it doesn't run warm, but GPUs tend to run warmer than other hardware in your PC. Just don't overclock to the moon and you'll be fine;)

I get 60 fps in the open world, around 45 fps in towns and camps that are crowded with crafters and the gilsellers(why are they advertising in beta???)

My friend has the 5870 and scored higher than me on the bench by a few hundred, but he's having lagging issues in beta(but I believe it's his cpu, not GPU, causing the issues).

I'm running a Phenom IIx4 955BE overclocked to 3.95ghz(as high as she'll go and remain stable for me on air:( )

The EVGA gpu is wonderful, warm, and runs the game great;)
#15 Sep 16 2010 at 6:05 PM Rating: Good
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I would stay away from Zotac. I bought 2 GTX 285's from NewEgg earlier in the year that were both Zotac cards. After a month, one of them died, so I began the RMA process. It took me about 2 and a half months from the time they received my card for me to get one back, and the card they sent back was a refurbished one. I've dealt with eVGA's RMA process in the past and they handled my issue much faster and with a result that made me a happy customer. I like PNY and XFX as well.

Edited, Sep 16th 2010 8:14pm by Jeraziah
#16 Sep 16 2010 at 6:12 PM Rating: Decent
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Thanks for the infos on the different brands. Much appreciated.
#17 Sep 16 2010 at 7:23 PM Rating: Excellent
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I can confirm, EVGA and PNY are great from my experiences.
#18 Sep 16 2010 at 9:13 PM Rating: Good
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Slightly jealous as I have the Asus GTX 460 1gb instead, but I can attest to the 470 being a good step above. If you never plan to SLI, get the 470/480, or the 5850/5870.

You must also realize the 470 and 480 are the original GF100 Fermi chips from nvidia which run HOT compared to anything else out there on the market right now. That's not bad. They were designed to give optimal performance under the higher temps.

My 460 is OC'd at the moment to 850/2100 and hovers at a comfy 68-70c with 100% usage, according to MSI afterburner. I do dip down to 27-30 fps in the most crowded areas, but I don't suffer from 'jitters' or stuttering. I believe this has to do with your HDD's ability to load these character models into memory rapidly. I have a SSD.

If you do plan to do SLI in the future however, the 460 1gb variant is the BEST performance/price card on the market. Hands down. It OC's like a beast, keeps cool, and the SLI scaling on it is unbelievable. SLI performance -will- beat the 5970 and a OC'd gtx 480. And for the same price or even cheaper, depending on which 1gb version you get.
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#19 Sep 16 2010 at 9:14 PM Rating: Decent
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Slightly jealous as I have the Asus GTX 460 1gb instead, but I can attest to the 470 being a good step above. If you never plan to SLI, get the 470/480, or the 5850/5870.

You must also realize the 470 and 480 are the original GF100 Fermi chips from nvidia which run HOT compared to anything else out there on the market right now. That's not bad. They were designed to give optimal performance under the higher temps.

My 460 is OC'd at the moment to 850/2100 and hovers at a comfy 68-70c with 100% usage, according to MSI afterburner. I do dip down to 27-30 fps in the most crowded areas, but I don't suffer from 'jitters' or stuttering. I believe this has to do with your HDD's ability to load these character models into memory rapidly. I have a SSD.

If you do plan to do SLI in the future however, the 460 1gb variant is the BEST performance/price card on the market. Hands down. It OC's like a beast, keeps cool, and the SLI scaling on it is unbelievable. SLI performance -will- beat the 5970 and a OC'd gtx 480. And for the same price or even cheaper, depending on which 1gb version you get.


Very good info, wish i could rate you up!
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#20 Sep 16 2010 at 9:15 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah i bought the Gigabyte UD5 mobo, but I definitely went EVGA for the GTX 470 instead of getting gigabyte for the graphics as well.

Also, I dont know if its my tower or what but my single 470 stays around 55c-60c running ffxiv on all highs except Ambient Occlusion and anti-aliasing. My current tower is an old cosmos 1000 with 4 120mm fans + all the peripheral fans inside. Currently running stock i7 930 fan due to not getting the darn mounting brackets with my H70 I ordered. Still waiting to hear from them about that.
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