Blah blah blah. Anyone who's willing to throw this big of a tantrum over the repeating scenery wasn't going to play the game in the first place. This is such an ancillary point. I do not accept that repeating terrain features could be the deciding factor for anyone. People who like the game will play and won't care. People who don't like the game won't play because they dislike the game's core features, not because of repeating terrain.
People who like the game don't really care that, if we search for it, we can find the same kind of hill a bunch of times. We're not playing this game as landscape surveyors or geologists, it's just not an issue for us. You can debate all you want about whether it was "good" game design, but why would you bother? Whether you conclude that it's good or it's bad, it's still such a minor point that it doesn't change anything. If someone likes the game, this isn't enough to make them dislike it. If they dislike it, it's not going to be based solely on this feature. The whole debate is not just beating a dead horse, it's beating an irrelevant dead horse. So let's just leave Mr. horsie alone and find some way to spend our time that isn't so perilously close to trolling, k?
But it's not a tantrum, most of the posts here are well constructed criticism. Yea, some of it is kinda venomous, but c'mon. I don't see anyone saying 'FFXIV sucks, WoW is ten times better, XIV is a sh*t game'...which is what a troll would do. Labeling people with constructive criticism or people who express their opinions in a well written manner as trolls is foolish.
I mean, my favorite FF game is FF6. Was it awesome? Yes. Perfect? Nah. For instance some of the party characters had pretty poor character development IMO(Mog, Umaro, Gogo, arguably Gau). Finding flaws in a game you like isn't trolling, it's just keeping an open mind and not blindly saying 'Well, I like this game so it's perfect'. Another example, one of my favorite game series today is the Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi Warriors series. The games get slammed critically because they tend to be very similar games with very little changing between them, and while that is an obvious flaw that I can accept, I really love the games.
XIV...well, in my opinion it needs work. The core game is fine, IMO, it's just crippled by the laggy UI (Which will hopefully be fixed at retail) and poor performance even on upper middle tech systems. The map being copy/pasted isn't a game breaker, but it really breaks immersion and screams laziness...and coupled with those other issues...I mean, the levequest fail issues, the retainers being a ***** to search through, the lack of a recipe book, the action bars not saving when you switch classes, those I can forgive because they can be patched in, but the maps using copy/paste excessively sounds like a really major issue which won't likely be fixed during the game's lifetime...same with the poor optimization and, if it's not fixed in retail, the laggy UI.
Alright, I'm rambling too much, I'm sorry. I don't hate FFXIV, keep in mind...I'm just not wowed by it, and for a game that's gonna cost me 50 bucks now plus hundreds of dollars in sub fees if I chose to keep playing it, it had better wow me, haha.
EDIT: Yea, I know I said major issue up there, didn't quite mean it like that, I meant to say the map copy/paste is an issue that, along with the major issues of laggy UI and poor performance, isn't likely to be able to be patched in easily. Edited, Sep 19th 2010 12:57am by mogwaimon