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#1 Sep 18 2010 at 1:23 PM Rating: Decent
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Purchasing a new laptop and would like to play FFXIV on it until it comes out for the ps3. I'm just trying to buy a laptop that can barely run it since I do not have a lot of money. Here are the specs...

intel i5 dual core

1GB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650

I have been told that the graphics card is technically under SE minimum system requirements, but most people have told me that it will still run FFXIV.

Can I be SURE if I buy this laptop that it will run FFXIV?

Thanks in advance for your responses.
#2 Sep 18 2010 at 1:30 PM Rating: Good
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It's very unlikely to be playable. I know people with GPUs and CPUs more powerful who are having some severe FPS issues.

Edit: The cheapest laptop I could find with a GPU powerful enough to make this game playable its about $1,150 on NewEgg.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152196

Even with that, I think you'd be playing with limited graphics and still some lag.

Edited, Sep 18th 2010 3:33pm by Jeraziah
#3 Sep 18 2010 at 1:33 PM Rating: Good
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Just to compare, although I don't know where the cards fall on the Heirarchy chart, I play with:

AMD Dual Core
9800GT
3GB RAM

I've been playing w/Shadows on Low - Texture High - other crap off - with little to no issues.

I will probably adjust everything to off/low on release just to play it safe until I can get a better processor - but that's how I've run the whole time.
#4 Sep 18 2010 at 1:34 PM Rating: Good
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EmotionBlues wrote:
Just to compare, although I don't know where the cards fall on the Heirarchy chart, I play with:

AMD Dual Core
9800GT
3GB RAM

I've been playing w/Shadows on Low - Texture High - other crap off - with little to no issues.

I will probably adjust everything to off/low on release just to play it safe until I can get a better processor - but that's how I've run the whole time.


What resolution do you play on? I know people with hardware superior to that with issues. Also, what does 'little to no issues' mean? Some people consider 20-30 FPS playable since thats what FFXI was anyway. Other gamers have higher needs.

Edited, Sep 18th 2010 3:34pm by Jeraziah
#5 Sep 18 2010 at 1:39 PM Rating: Good
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Forgive me for being ignorant, but I've never known how to check my FPS yet in FFXIV - I'd account this to the fact I haven't really noticed any graphical problems so I don't go looking.

I don't get any choppyness or tearing at all, even in heavily crowded areas.

I can't remember my resolution offhand - from memory it's 1,600x1040 or something? I'll update this when I get home to confirm (at work) but it was set to match my native monitor resolution. I have a nice 20' monitor - but it can only do 720p. I played both in Windowed and Full Screen - never noticed many differences.



Edited, Sep 18th 2010 3:40pm by EmotionBlues
#6 Sep 18 2010 at 1:44 PM Rating: Good
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EmotionBlues wrote:
Forgive me for being ignorant, but I've never known how to check my FPS yet in FFXIV - I'd account this to the fact I haven't really noticed any graphical problems so I don't go looking.

I don't get any choppyness or tearing at all, even in heavily crowded areas.

I can't remember my resolution offhand - from memory it's 1,600x1040 or something? I'll update this when I get home to confirm (at work) but it was set to match my native monitor resolution. I have a nice 20' monitor - but it can only do 720p. I played both in Windowed and Full Screen - never noticed many differences.



Edited, Sep 18th 2010 3:40pm by EmotionBlues


The resolution is likely 1680x1050. What I'm a little confused about is you say your resolution is 1680x1050, but it only does 720p? 720p is the equivalent to 1280x720. If you're playing at 1280x720, I can understand why maybe you're not lagging. That's a fairly low resolution. If you multiply the width and height of your resolution, that's how many pixels that need to be rendered by the graphics card. 720p would be 921,600 whereas 1680x1050 is 1.764 million. So the higher resolution requires literally double the power to maintain the same FPS.
#7 Sep 18 2010 at 1:47 PM Rating: Good
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Let me confirm this for you when I get home and check back in maybe in an hour or two, I'll post what I have officially.

I commonly switch numbers around or backwards with everything I do - and I work with numbers of all sorts (tech support) all day long - so I'm likely not correct. You're probably right - but I have to switch a game I play everytime I log in to my monitor resolution and for some reason 1,600 stuck out to me.

Will get back soon, thanks!
#8 Sep 18 2010 at 1:52 PM Rating: Good
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@OP: What exactly is your budget, and do you have any experience swapping parts in and out of a computer? I looked on NewEgg, and the cheapest laptop with the specs you described is about $800 so I assume about that much. Also, is it mandatory that this be a laptop? You can really get so much more for your money if you build a desktop yourself. If you need help building a shopping list, and need help in learning how to actually put it together I wouldn't mind. I've helped others here with similar issues. It's really not difficult at all, and people who do it are usually surprised by what a simple process it is.
#9 Sep 18 2010 at 2:10 PM Rating: Good
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Judging from this post: http://ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?game=268&mid=1284477260249261773#msg1284617043129668575

It will run. After that, all bets are off :D
#10 Sep 18 2010 at 2:28 PM Rating: Good
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Enyyx wrote:
Judging from this post: http://ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?game=268&mid=1284477260249261773#msg1284617043129668575

It will run. After that, all bets are off :D


The OP in that post has the exact model I linked in my previous post. So you could go for something like that for $1150, but the radeon 5650 is not likely to run this game at all.
#11 Sep 18 2010 at 2:32 PM Rating: Good
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my budget is 900-1000 dollars.

I do have to get a laptop and not a desktop.

Keep in mind it doesn't have to run perfectly. I just want to be able to play it on my laptop until the PS3 version comes out. I just want to be 100% sure it will run before I buy a laptop.
#12 Sep 18 2010 at 2:44 PM Rating: Good
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BlazeGaruda wrote:
my budget is 900-1000 dollars.

I do have to get a laptop and not a desktop.

Keep in mind it doesn't have to run perfectly. I just want to be able to play it on my laptop until the PS3 version comes out. I just want to be 100% sure it will run before I buy a laptop.


If it has to be a laptop, this is a great site to see which laptop GPU's are the most powerful.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html

Looking at that list, the 5870 from ATI seems like a good choice but as I said in a previous post, the cheapest I saw on NewEgg was $1150. The 5870 is ranked 11th which is great. If you can squeeze out an extra $150 I really believe it would be worth it. If you absolutely cannot, then the GTS 360M from nVidia is a close second place. For $949.99 with free shipping and no tax, you can buy this laptop on NewEgg...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834114796

That has the GTS 360M in it and should be able to run the game. Here is a link to the $1149.99 laptop with the ATI 5870 in it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152206

The first link with the nVidia card actually has a large screen, which might be nice for gaming. Also, regardless what you end up buying, do a clean installation of Windows 7. You'll almost always see a performance boost from a clean install versus the OS that comes already installed on the laptop with all of it's bloatware.

Edited, Sep 18th 2010 4:47pm by Jeraziah
#13 Sep 18 2010 at 2:49 PM Rating: Good
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Resolution is 1600x900 on my monitor.
#14 Sep 18 2010 at 2:56 PM Rating: Good
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I ran the benchmark on a Sony Vaio Laptop with a Mobility Radeon 4650 Graphics processor. On Low the benchmark scored 2490 so it was capable of running the game albeit at low settings according to the SE benchmark test. The specs on the laptop are

Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo Processor T6400 2GHz 
Memory: 4GB 
Display: 16.4" (1600x900) 
Graphics Card: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650 512MB 
Optical Drive: BD-ROM/DVD-SM 
Operating System: Windows Vista Home Premium 


I removed Vista and stuck Windows 7 on it.

The Laptop you're looking at has at least a better processor, according to the chart here from a graphics card benchmark http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html a slightly better video card, not by much but it is a little better. and probably the same amount of ram. The only reason I am not running FFXIV beta on my old laptop is that I have swapped PC's with my partner and have a nice reasonably good desktop pc and my partner has my laptop. I cannot guarantee the laptop you posted above will run FFXIV but I know the one I had was capable of getting a score in the benchmark that suggested it would run ok.

#15 Sep 18 2010 at 3:03 PM Rating: Decent
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Jeraziah wrote:
The OP in that post has the exact model I linked in my previous post. So you could go for something like that for $1150, but the radeon 5650 is not likely to run this game at all.


No, the OP has a $700 Acer that plays the game, but he wasn't thrilled with it and wanted to upgrade to the MSI model you linked to.
#16 Sep 18 2010 at 3:39 PM Rating: Decent
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http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/

This tool should give you a fairly accurate answer. Just select your game from the drop down list.

Edited, Sep 18th 2010 5:40pm by Miira11
#17 Sep 18 2010 at 5:59 PM Rating: Good
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Miira11 wrote:
http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/

This tool should give you a fairly accurate answer. Just select your game from the drop down list.

Edited, Sep 18th 2010 5:40pm by Miira11


That tool is not always accurate, and especially so for FFXIV. I've seen others have issues with it and it also claims I can just hardly run the game...even though I can play at maxed settings and 1080p with 50+ FPS.
#18 Sep 18 2010 at 6:18 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah, that site is a bit fuuny. I got an Intel I7-860 @ 2,8GHZ,,,,,But apparently i need an Intel i7 @ 2,66GHZ....And dont even think about to run the game with Windows Vista *64 couse you will need Windows 7!

Well with my I7-860 and my gtx470 i can atleast play it....hmm i think i have to upgrade soon! Any advices?
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