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What's more in demand gladiator or conjurerFollow

#1 Sep 20 2010 at 4:17 PM Rating: Default
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Having trouble figuring out what class/race to choose. Should I be a conjuerer tar or galka gladiator?
#2 Sep 20 2010 at 4:20 PM Rating: Decent
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Should I be a conjuerer tar or galka gladiator?
Conjurer Lalafell :32 (62.7%)
Roegadyn Gladiator :19 (37.3%)
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#3 Sep 20 2010 at 4:20 PM Rating: Default
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I dont think anyone knows who will be in most demand - the game has not been released yet.
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#4 Sep 20 2010 at 4:21 PM Rating: Decent
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Technically nothing is in demand since the game isn't out yet...

Also, Tarutaru = Lalafell and Galka = Roegadyn. Race doesn't place a huge role in stats anymore so choose whatever you like.

Edited, Sep 20th 2010 8:11pm by Sasorex
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#5 Sep 20 2010 at 4:44 PM Rating: Good
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Several things to consider atleast at this point.

Race: pick whichever one you want, not the one you think will be best for a specific role. (I'm seriously on the fence about making a lalafell instead of a hyur just because of how **** cute they are.)

In terms of class:

This game is designed around the concept that most things will be able to be soloed with the right set up. Given that, it's safe to assume that SE will be striving very hard to make sure every job can stand on its own. That means there will be alot more options in terms of feasible grouping standards.

You can be any class you want at any time, you can mix and match abilities and spells, there is a ton of ways to approach this game, you can even entirely reset your stat point allocations if you don't mind waiting two hours to do so.

-I duo with my girlfriend alot... it hasn't mattered yet which classes either of us chooses to play as, we've been able to figure out working strategies for everything.

Race is the only choice in this game that is set in stone, so choose what you want to play, not what you think will be better than everything else at some point down the road.
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#6 Sep 20 2010 at 5:01 PM Rating: Decent
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From what I saw in open and judging by polls on these forums. Thers going to be a ton of Conj. If you only want those two choices I would vote for Glad.
If you want to find a combat class that will be needed, I would definitly choose Thurma. Seems to be the least played class and in later levels they will be in high demand. Must have those Debuffs :))

The galax or elven seem to be least played races. I'll be playing a mithra becuase I have always been a neko at heart ^^ sadly i think 75% of the players are mithra blah..
#7 Sep 20 2010 at 5:05 PM Rating: Default
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Pug Mrd and Gla all have tanking abilities. Con is the only job with cure.

Con will be in demand but you will probably be asked to heal. I say don't pick a job based on demand, because you will just come here and complain abotu being asked to play a job you don't like, or play it differently than you want. Instead, try them and choose one that is fun.

p.s. Gla is lots of fun.
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Thaumaturges have a different version of cure, raise and reraise.

Mainly it requires they have a certain amount of hp as well as mp 58/11 for the first tier of sacrifice(cure.) But it also adds a short regen effect to whoever it cures.
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#9 Sep 20 2010 at 5:17 PM Rating: Decent
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its 50=50 . Chose what you like
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F3rth wrote:
Thaumaturges have a different version of cure, raise and reraise.

Mainly it requires they have a certain amount of hp as well as mp 58/11 for the first tier of sacrifice(cure.) But it also adds a short regen effect to whoever it cures.


I thought it was just regen, didnt know it also had cure
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#12 Sep 20 2010 at 5:53 PM Rating: Decent
F3rth wrote:
Several things to consider atleast at this point.

Race: pick whichever one you want, not the one you think will be best for a specific role. (I'm seriously on the fence about making a lalafell instead of a hyur just because of how **** cute they are.)


If I made a Lalafel character, I would never get anything done. I'd just find one long corridor and just spend all my time running back and forth.
#14 Sep 20 2010 at 6:34 PM Rating: Default
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Game hasn't started and pros already wanting to start crap lmao.
#15 Sep 20 2010 at 6:47 PM Rating: Default
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From what i saw in Beta, Conj is needed you can always zerg just need a couple of peeps with provoke. From my beta experiences that works fine. Also a Glad in party works better... :)
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#16 Sep 20 2010 at 6:53 PM Rating: Decent
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As stated above, there are a ton of people going to play Conjurer. It is easily soloed and has powerful ranged attacks, plus cure. Gladiator takes more time to level from what I've seen. Any who leveled multiple classes agree with that?

I don't know how many people have reached the really challenging content that requires a dedicated tank. I suppose people will be looking for a Gladiator when they get there!
#17 Sep 20 2010 at 7:49 PM Rating: Default
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On Besaid we had peeps in out LS that were lvl 35+ for the stuff we were doing we needed a tank<Glad> and a Healer Conj was better but Thum worked great also.
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#18 Sep 20 2010 at 7:55 PM Rating: Decent
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Right on. Did you ever try to use a Marauder or Pug for a tank at that level?
#19 Sep 20 2010 at 8:11 PM Rating: Default
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I was lvl 22 pug and the group had a glad lvl 30+and we did a lvl 30 leves was fun but Glad was main tank

Edited, Sep 20th 2010 10:14pm by Frebaut
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#20 Sep 20 2010 at 8:14 PM Rating: Decent
Frebaut wrote:
On Besaid we had peeps in out LS that were lvl 35+ for the stuff we were doing we needed a tank<Glad> and a Healer Conj was better but Thum worked great also.


I'm sure you meant 25+.
#21 Sep 20 2010 at 8:15 PM Rating: Default
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Umm nope 35+
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#22 Sep 20 2010 at 8:17 PM Rating: Good
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Pretty sure the cap for beta was 30... granted you could do level 40 leves at 30... but I'm gonna need some proof before i believe your glad was "30+."
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#23 Sep 20 2010 at 8:20 PM Rating: Default
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Was I the only that plays conjourer in beta? Lol
The class is powerful but it levels VERY slow in beta because only way to get skill up was by meleeing with your staff
And u not by nuking.. U can't sit back and nuke like BLM in FFXi.. (now I hope this get fix With release & if it does go with conjourer)
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#24 Sep 20 2010 at 8:27 PM Rating: Decent
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Ggrab wrote:
Was I the only that plays conjourer in beta? Lol
The class is powerful but it levels VERY slow in beta because only way to get skill up was by meleeing with your staff
And u not by nuking.. U can't sit back and nuke like BLM in FFXi.. (now I hope this get fix With release & if it does go with conjourer)


I'm not sure which beta you were playing, but when I played thaumaturge I got skill for curing, for debuffing, for nuking and for the standard phantom dart melee move.

Though it was interesting to note that the skill ups for curing were earned on an enemy "group" basis compared to the specific enemy basis of other moves.

Was doing a leve with my girlfriend, killing yarzon in groups of two, at the end of one of the fights got the message:

Sand yarzon is defeated.
Earned XXX thaumaturge skill.
The san yarzon's group is defeated.
Earned XXX thaumaturge skill.

Was rather interesting...
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#25 Sep 20 2010 at 8:30 PM Rating: Good
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Ggrab wrote:
Was I the only that plays conjourer in beta? Lol
The class is powerful but it levels VERY slow in beta because only way to get skill up was by meleeing with your staff
And u not by nuking.. U can't sit back and nuke like BLM in FFXi.. (now I hope this get fix With release & if it does go with conjourer)


I managed to skill up OK using nukes. Nukes cost MP, but they almost always give more skill when you get a skill-up. However, your staff is a better way to skill because you can shoot with it over and over without running out of MP.

As for what's in greater demand... So far, there hasn't been much partying that I've seen. The lower levels of FFXIV are a lot like pre-dunes levels in FFXI, partying is somewhat chaotic waste of time where the tanks can't hold hate and the healers can't keep everyone alive. Plus, nobody knows where the good camps are, so your exp rate is going to suck as you run around aimlessly looking for good mobs to skill on. To be sure, we need people out there doing this so they can post online where and how to party, but in the meantime, partying's not that important at lower levels.

I do hope people figure out how to make it work though. My CON was leveling very slowly after 15.

I think GLD is the most popular melee class, but I also think that tanking won't be restricted to GLD. Both PUG and RAV have tank abilities, if you combine those with GLD abilities I think you can make a pretty good tank. That's the theory anyway. But CON is irreplacable in parties, they've got an AoE heal and they've got the good buffs. But I wouldn't sell THM short either, I think their debuffs will make a big difference in party play, and they do have some healing ability.
#26 Sep 20 2010 at 8:34 PM Rating: Decent
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I was playing open beta , u was lvling thum and I was lvling conjourer only way I got skill up was by meleeing with my staff.. I hope they fix it
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#27 Sep 20 2010 at 8:37 PM Rating: Decent
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I got plenty of skillups on nukes and some on cures as conjurer....some really good skillups against orange/red mobs with the nukes. Fought one crab and got 500 class exp so then I kept doing it...wasn't always 500, but it was nice...

I think in retail, if they improve on mp refresh methods along with me actually taking it a bit more serious and finding some food/juice that gives refresh I could do really well with that...

For beta a lot of the time I spammed spirit dart+radiance while saving MP for cure & buffs against easy mobs because it was a nice, lazy efficient way to level...


As for the OP question, you can do both...combine gladiator & conjurer...do whatever you want for race...

Edited, Sep 20th 2010 11:12pm by TwistedOwl
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#28 Sep 20 2010 at 8:39 PM Rating: Decent
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Wow so I guess was doing it wrong... Anyways I reroll to a pugilists ganna aim for evasion tank build
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