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#1 Sep 21 2010 at 11:23 PM Rating: Good
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Just curious if anyone is going to or already chose not go on Besaid because its been voted the unooficial role playing server. I'm not avoiding it as I was on it in open beta and it seemed fine. I'm curious if anyone will be avoiding it though. I'm not a RPer. (I won't take the extra time/effort to talk like that, but if someone else wants to I don't care.)
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#2 Sep 22 2010 at 3:42 AM Rating: Decent
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Personally I chose it because it's the unoficial RP server as I am looking for a new experience in MMOs.

I doubt there will be any answers stating they are avoiding this server because of RP as these people most probably won't be looking into this forum!
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I've already seen a few comments made by people who avoided Besaid for just that reason. I think their decision to leave is a great thing though - it means one less person to make snarky, judgmental comments both in-game and on the message board.

Although, to be perfectly honest, I've been doing this for ten years or more now, and I really haven't been bothered all that much inside the game. I think maybe twice some wiseguys decided to interrupt guild meetings over the years, but other than that I've found the vast majority of players to be tolerant and understanding.
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I think part of why some people might avoid it is because they feel like the RPers might be the judgmental ones. The one FFXI friend that I'd gotten in touch with was worried about Besaid being the RP server, but I told him it'd be fine, nobody's going to force anything on anyone and it's not like the RPC would be avoiding the non-RP players or anything, it's just that a minority of the players on the server enjoy RPing and so will be.

Personally I'd gone Besaid in OB just because, but the RPC going there honestly makes me feel better about the decision because someone who cares enough about their char to RP would presumably be a good player (as in not a jerk or whatever, not that RPing instills skill at playing ^^).
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#5 Sep 22 2010 at 7:56 PM Rating: Good
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I went to Besaid because it was in fact voted the be the "Unofficial Roleplaying" server. I read about the vote as I was still attempting to get my Open Beta key.

I'm not sure how anyone can hold distaste for Roleplayers to begin with. Considering they tend to merely add to the atmosphere rather than shouting at the top of their lungs about having "big DEE PEE ES" all the time. Eh, granted each side has their own stereotype of each other, but it just seems to be a silly little slap fight back and forth.

I think most of those people that would actively avoid roleplay servers are those that don't understand the mechanics and where it stems from, mainly the want to use their literary skills to improve and expand upon an already impressive universe created by the developers. Those Roleplayers that are adverse to non-roleplayers tend to be ones that have been harassed enough to not trust those that do not see their point of view on the matter.

Edited, Sep 22nd 2010 9:56pm by FreyarS
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FreyarS wrote:
I think most of those people that would actively avoid roleplay servers are those that don't understand the mechanics and where it stems from, mainly the want to use their literary skills to improve and expand upon an already impressive universe created by the developers. Those Roleplayers that are adverse to non-roleplayers tend to be ones that have been harassed enough to not trust those that do not see their point of view on the matter.

Edited, Sep 22nd 2010 9:56pm by FreyarS


I'm afraid I have to disagree with you there, people who actively avoid RP most probably are some of the best at understanding the game mechanics. The problem is that these people, along with the majority of players (me included sometimes) forget about the whole RP part of MMORPG. People just want to either have fun or have the best character/equipment possible and completly disregard the Background History of the world/game.
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#7 Sep 23 2010 at 7:35 AM Rating: Decent
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I agree with Hugus, it's not that they don't get the mechanics they just want to play the game... and not be part of the world.
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Hugus wrote:
I'm afraid I have to disagree with you there, people who actively avoid RP most probably are some of the best at understanding the game mechanics. The problem is that these people, along with the majority of players (me included sometimes) forget about the whole RP part of MMORPG. People just want to either have fun or have the best character/equipment possible and completly disregard the Background History of the world/game.


I think he meant the mechanics of roleplaying rather than gameplay. Also, there's no forced disconnect between being a numbers monkey and a RPer, just a lot of people tend to enjoy either one or the other. Sorta like beer and wine. I like both (in both cases).

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On topic:

I rolled here partially because I'd heard the RPC was coming here. I don't intend to RP myself (I've found that MMO-based RP feels way too disjointed and stiff for me to enjoy it; plus typing that much is a pain in the rear), but I enjoy the atmosphere it lends the world. Also, I'm a RP nerd and I enjoy hanging out with other RP nerds. Birds of a feather and all that jazz.
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I don't see what the problem is.

I'm sure there is plenty of RP players on other servers so I don't think it matters.

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#10 Sep 25 2010 at 10:55 AM Rating: Decent
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I honestly prefer the roleplaying community because it usually has nicer people. I've played, at the very least, five MMO's and I actively seek out these servers for that reason. RPer's have no problem stopping to answer a question or group with you. And their name choices are usually a lot less annoying, as is their typing abilities.
#11 Sep 28 2010 at 6:46 AM Rating: Decent
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~ As unofficial it may be, its safe to assume that a very small percentage of people actually visit here; which explains why I have yet to see any RP at all on the server. I guess you have to join an RP LS, which could be said about any server... so I think the entire idea is moot anyhow.
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#12 Sep 28 2010 at 9:22 AM Rating: Good
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Our linkshell ended up here more or less because we just did a vote, and people voted against other servers as opposed to specifically *for* this one.

I will say this though - there are some mean people already. My friends and I were getting together for our guildleves and some idiot was making some ignorant comments to the RP folks who were just having fun and not really bothering anyone. I was a little annoyed with him, so I ended up in a shouting match (that's how I roleplay - as a raving lunatic in shout fights for the forces of good. Doesn't count? Oh well. I tried!) and he eventually quieted.

I dunno - I think there are a lot of folks who don't even realize it's the unofficial RP server because they don't even know places like Zam exist.

#13 Sep 28 2010 at 11:52 AM Rating: Default
I am on this server. Yesterday when shopping in the markets I came across two played freaked cybering >< horrible! Leave that for your ims. I just left the area. Was thinking about sending a GM on them but really didn't want to bother with it.

Yuck

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Rozga wrote:
I am on this server. Yesterday when shopping in the markets I came across two played freaked cybering >< horrible! Leave that for your ims. I just left the area. Was thinking about sending a GM on them but really didn't want to bother with it.

Yuck

~Pileya


What were their names? Those people should not be taken as representative to the RP community, I doubt they even are RP'ers.

Edited, Sep 28th 2010 5:20pm by archaon98
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Rozga wrote:
I am on this server. Yesterday when shopping in the markets I came across two played freaked cybering >< horrible! Leave that for your ims. I just left the area. Was thinking about sending a GM on them but really didn't want to bother with it.

Yuck

~Pileya


In the future, feel free to report them to a GM. I'm no expert on the ToS but I'm pretty sure they'd crack down on something like that. As stated by the above poster, that does not represent the overall RP community at all.
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#16 Sep 28 2010 at 5:46 PM Rating: Decent
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I would think anyone who takes time to even interact with us will find that we are a very friendly group of people (Most of us, at least.) We are just as much in the game for the game itself, as we are for RP. Think of it as getting as much out of it as possible, as well as exercising our imagination (It is the most profound and fun thing to start working on a character's background and personality, and watch it discover itself from foundation to finished product.), In many cases, if you spot some of us RP'ing in /say, you may think to come over and join in on it a bit (many do), often asking us for some information relevant to the actual gameplay in character, we will gladly talk right back to you and help you out, but if you ask us a question out of character, we will still gladly help you, we don't expect you to RP on besaid, we won't pull you in to it at all. Things like cybering are looked down upon in the RPC community, and you will not see our members partaking in such acts. The majority of RP takes place in more private chats, such as /l or /p. There are a very large number of RP'ers, and you have probably interacted or seen at least 20 of them around the server and not even known.
#17 Sep 29 2010 at 9:37 AM Rating: Decent
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Rozga wrote:
I am on this server. Yesterday when shopping in the markets I came across two played freaked cybering >< horrible! Leave that for your ims. I just left the area. Was thinking about sending a GM on them but really didn't want to bother with it.

Yuck

~Pileya


Egh. While it may be an RP server, keep in mind that a majority of RPers, and those at the RPC do not condone that kind of activity. Roleplaying doesn't equal smut-writing.
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lol I'm not avoiding this server. even thow my main char. will be on Palamecia because thats where some friends from FFXI already are, I'm thinking of makeing a second char. for this server just for the RP. I dint do any RP on 11 but I am a former D&D player from long before MMORPG's. and besides it sounds like a fun active server
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#19 Sep 30 2010 at 8:18 AM Rating: Excellent
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I haven't even really seen all that much RPing anyway (perhaps it is done within LS), and I don't plan to RP, but I chose Besaid because it simply seemed like it has a very active community.
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I am on Besaid, and I honestly haven't even run into a single Role Player. I have seen a few chatting in the leve area, but honestly it isn't adding / removing anything to gameplay for me. Plenty of non-roleplayers on besaid.
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RP servers are usually more populated and the general population is a lot nicer and mature, found this to be most true in Lotro, and their unoffical RP server. Granted you get the people that there only goal is to ruin RP as well.

I rolled here and I look forward to getting to know all of you!
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I had my first RP run in yesterday. I was synthing away in the ARM guild and these two players just kept blabbing on about something filling up my log, I couldn't avoid it.

It was driving me nuts because it was such a boring conversation. It dragged on until one of them said "well, I'd best get back to training." to which I could not keep quiet any longer replied, "YES, MORE HAMMERING LESS YAMMERING." Lame, to be sure, but he broke character and said "QQ."

QQ indeed.
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BaseVilliN wrote:
I had my first RP run in yesterday. I was synthing away in the ARM guild and these two players just kept blabbing on about something filling up my log, I couldn't avoid it.


Filling up your log? Your journal?

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It dragged on until one of them said "well, I'd best get back to training." to which I could not keep quiet any longer replied, "YES, MORE HAMMERING LESS YAMMERING."


****, I would have considered it to be an IC comment and would have responded properly.

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but he broke character and said "QQ."

Certainly would damage any prospects of me RPing with that guy myself. Typically decent RP-ing folk don't force it on others. Business is conducted through /tells and Party and is usually done quickly. Afterall, we need the support of others for crafting just like anyone else.
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FreyarS wrote:
BaseVilliN wrote:
I had my first RP run in yesterday. I was synthing away in the ARM guild and these two players just kept blabbing on about something filling up my log, I couldn't avoid it.


Filling up your log? Your journal?


No, the combat/chat/synthesis results/etc log. My eyeballs are forced there during crafting.

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It dragged on until one of them said "well, I'd best get back to training." to which I could not keep quiet any longer replied, "YES, MORE HAMMERING LESS YAMMERING."


****, I would have considered it to be an IC comment and would have responded properly.


Which is what I was expecting. I wasn't (really) trying to be a douche I was just annoyed. D:
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BaseVilliN wrote:
No, the combat/chat/synthesis results/etc log. My eyeballs are forced there during crafting.


Ah, I see. this is where chat tabs and crap will be good. Do synthesis results show up on the battle tab?

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Which is what I was expecting. I wasn't (really) trying to be a douche I was just annoyed. D:


I'm sure, tempers flare over various things and no one is in the right or wrong in any scenario.
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I've always enjoyed RP'ing, whether on a forum or in an MMORPG. I never tried it in FFXI, however when the PS3 release of XIV rolls around I hope the RP community will still be lively. I also hope it will conglomerate in one place so I know where to join up.

If anything I'm really looking forward to that aspect of FFXIV. So I doubt I'd avoid Besaid if it did turn out to be the unofficial RP server.
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BaseVilliN wrote:
I had my first RP run in yesterday. I was synthing away in the ARM guild and these two players just kept blabbing on about something filling up my log, I couldn't avoid it.

It was driving me nuts because it was such a boring conversation. It dragged on until one of them said "well, I'd best get back to training." to which I could not keep quiet any longer replied, "YES, MORE HAMMERING LESS YAMMERING." Lame, to be sure, but he broke character and said "QQ."

QQ indeed.


I just have to say that this one of the few posts that made me laught irl while at work, I just couldn't stop myself.

I think this was actually a very IC reply from yourself and wouldn't think of it as rude.
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#28 Oct 11 2010 at 11:30 AM Rating: Good
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I dont mind other ppl RPing. In the other hand, I, personally, dont like to RP.
Maybe if I knew beforehand it was the unoficial RP server, I would make my toon somewhere else. But to be quite honest, I dont really care. If ppl want to stay in character, they are free to do so.
I just wonder why ppl chosed the most populated server to make it the RP server. It will bring a lot of new gamers not knowing it (like me!).
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I just wonder why ppl chosed the most populated server to make it the RP server. It will bring a lot of new gamers not knowing it (like me!).

Besaid was chosen as the unofficial RP server LONG before it became the most populated.

Also, Final Fantasy players prefer the word "character" over the word "toon", as "toon" is generally used to refer to WoW characters. We're strange like that.
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#30 Nov 01 2010 at 8:05 AM Rating: Decent
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I avoid Besaid because it was voted as the unofficial RP server. Why? I am sick and tired, from WoW mainly, of others making fun of those that RP. To avoid that kind of community since that is the reason I left WoW, I avoided the server.

I am now seeing that the most active english speaking community is on this server and I may remake a character to see how it is. I have been on 3 different servers only to be left alone with no one to party or a good active LS.
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I avoid Besaid because it was voted as the unofficial RP server. Why? I am sick and tired, from WoW mainly, of others making fun of those that RP. To avoid that kind of community since that is the reason I left WoW, I avoided the server.

I am now seeing that the most active english speaking community is on this server and I may remake a character to see how it is. I have been on 3 different servers only to be left alone with no one to party or a good active LS.


Don't worry mate, there are usually many nice people running leve groups often. I tend to be on around 2pm - 9pm CST on many classes if you need a hand with leve's as well.

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#32 Nov 15 2010 at 5:42 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm new to the game altogether and chose Besaid for the rep of the unofficial RP server. I'll agree that generally I find for more comraderie and politeness from RP communities.. although, we do have our fair share of jerks. Unfortunately, no matter where you go in life or what you get involved into, there's no stark seperation of groups that help you avoid the overly opinionated and those that view thier opinions as fact.

@Bertlit: You left WoW to avoid the RP community? I played WoW for about 2-3 years and bounced server to server. I only found RP to be somewhat embraced on one server (Farstriders). All others I visited, you had people publicly badmouthing RPers on broadcast... tho Moonguard... I perfectly understand why with the way a large percentage there acted. But even on Farstriders, the unofficial 'best' RP server in WoW, most RP was in teams or in out of the way places because of people jumping into the middle of the rp to dance naked or something. Then again, haven't played WoW for awhile now. Has Cataclysm brought the sleepy RP comunities back to life?

@BaseVilliN: I agree on that your comment could be taken IC and while you didn't mean it to be rude, I'm on both your side and that person's because it may have felt rude to that person because you typed it in all caps. I'm assuming this because of how you typed in post. Most people consider text in all caps to be shouting, which in most cultures and situations is considered to be rude. Most people, if they ever accidentally leave the caps lock on or hit it by mistake, you'll see them quickly apologize for the caps. Japanese players definitely see it as rude, and there's japanese players that are able to type english very well. This is why you'll occasionally see someone apologize in the translator if they happen to use the shout channel in game as well. But still, don't let it get to you, most of us don't bite :3
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I did not leave WoW because of the way RP was treated. I left the RP type servers because I couldn't stand the way people treated those that RP in the open. If I tried to bash on those that pick on the RPers, then it just become a yelling fight between like 10 people and everyone leaves unhappy.

So I left an RP server to a normal where people do not openly RP so I can avoid that kind of bashing.

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Bertlit wrote:
I did not leave WoW because of the way RP was treated. I left the RP type servers because I couldn't stand the way people treated those that RP in the open. If I tried to bash on those that pick on the RPers, then it just become a yelling fight between like 10 people and everyone leaves unhappy.

So I left an RP server to a normal where people do not openly RP so I can avoid that kind of bashing.

Edited, Nov 29th 2010 10:31pm by Bertlit


A group of us from my linkshell were doing some leves the other day and for the first time we saw another group RPing openly in /say.
We commented to ourselves in /party about how none of us were RPers and how some of us found it a little hard to understand the appeal, but we were courteous and did not interrupt of complain. We just battled our mobs and moved on.

That is how it should be done.

Edited, Dec 16th 2010 11:50am by Largestill

Edited, Dec 16th 2010 11:51am by Largestill
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Bertlit wrote:
I did not leave WoW because of the way RP was treated. I left the RP type servers because I couldn't stand the way people treated those that RP in the open. If I tried to bash on those that pick on the RPers, then it just become a yelling fight between like 10 people and everyone leaves unhappy.

So I left an RP server to a normal where people do not openly RP so I can avoid that kind of bashing.


A group of us from my linkshell were doing some leves the other day and for the first time we saw another group RPing openly in /say.
We commented to ourselves in /party about how none of us were RPers and how some of us found it a little hard to understand the appeal, but we were courteous and did not interrupt of complain. We just battled our mobs and moved on.

That is how it should be done.

As an RPer myself, I'm grateful for that gesture.

Speaking from personal experience, the appeal is immersion. When I'm RPing, I don't think about work or rent or car payments. I'm thinking about helping my friends with whatever tasks they need help with, and how to best acquire gil for that new weapon or piece of armor I've had my eye on.
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I'm late to this catagory so I'm playing catch up.....

....I would like RPers if they put some effort into it. Almost all of RP dialect is bland and uninteresting (save for a couple of "erotic" situations I "bumped" into) XD

I made a /pet emote, what have you guys done to contribute? >:O
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I didn't join Besaid because of the RP, but I must admit that I like seeing the RPers around. It gives the game a little more atmosphere, I think. Plus, it's sometimes fun to jump in with a little RP myself.

Although there was the time that one of my linkshell mates decided to try and mug the RPers...it was quite amusing, and they were very nice about it. Although much to my frien'd chagrin, the RPer didn't have his wallet on him at the time.
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I never see them around anymore D: I think there numbers shrank to the point that there are only a few secret cults doing their rituals in hidden temples that I've never seen before! :O
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Hugus wrote:
[quote=FreyarS]The problem is that these people, along with the majority of players (me included sometimes) forget about the whole RP part of MMORPG.


But what is RP really these days? You could make the argument that it's amateurs acting, but if you look at the history of RPGs, that seems to be more of a niche addition. I mean look at borderlands... it has RPG elements but I really don't see people trying to RP in it.

To me an RPG is a game with some sort of incremental character development system. I think the role in role playing has to do more about how and what you can do then the acting part.
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Hugus wrote:
[quote=FreyarS]The problem is that these people, along with the majority of players (me included sometimes) forget about the whole RP part of MMORPG.


But what is RP really these days? You could make the argument that it's amateurs acting, but if you look at the history of RPGs, that seems to be more of a niche addition. I mean look at borderlands... it has RPG elements but I really don't see people trying to RP in it.

To me an RPG is a game with some sort of incremental character development system. I think the role in role playing has to do more about how and what you can do then the acting part.


Hit the nail on the head on that one. Gaming definition of RPG is where the main character (you) goes through a developmental change (in a combination of physical and mental) as the game progresses, in the form of some sort of story line.

RP is used by those that try to immerse themselves as much as they can within the game. I can't do that but I'd like those around me that act their part and not just some bozo clicker. It doesn't take that much effort at all. Hi, I'm Lyles! I'm an elf! I'm nice most of the time but sometimes I like to do mean and naughty things ^^

No effort at all XD
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