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#1 Sep 22 2010 at 2:19 PM Rating: Good
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Poor Massively. I wonder how much they got for that article.
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#3 Sep 22 2010 at 2:46 PM Rating: Good
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Disappointing. I thought it would be an article about launch, not beta.
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#4 Sep 22 2010 at 2:47 PM Rating: Excellent
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It's actually a really favorable review.
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#5 Sep 22 2010 at 2:48 PM Rating: Default
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Okay, so the game has lots of problems, guildleves are boring ...

... but the writer ADORES the game. Why? I saw no reasons whatsoever why the reviewer loved the game so much. I saw a few small positives, a few small negatives.

A terribly written review.
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Okay, so the game has lots of problems, guildleves are boring ...

... but the writer ADORES the game. Why? I saw no reasons whatsoever why the reviewer loved the game so much. I saw a few small positives, a few small negatives.

A terribly written review.


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#7 Sep 22 2010 at 4:10 PM Rating: Decent
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yfaithfully wrote:
Okay, so the game has lots of problems, guildleves are boring ...

... but the writer ADORES the game. Why?


A wild guess
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http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20
#8 Sep 23 2010 at 6:11 AM Rating: Excellent
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yfaithfully wrote:
Okay, so the game has lots of problems, guildleves are boring ...

... but the writer ADORES the game. Why? I saw no reasons whatsoever why the reviewer loved the game so much. I saw a few small positives, a few small negatives.

A terribly written review.


First off, it's not a review; it's just that guy's impression of the game.

Secondly, that's what critics do - they criticize. It's possible to like or even love a game without being blind to it's faults. As an example from personal experience, I adore Paladin's Quest, but there's no way, were I to give it a numerical score, that I would rate it above 80%. ****, I love Final Fantasy XII - in fact it's my favorite numbered game in the franchise - and yet I would still have an easier time describing the games flaws than it's strong points.



And frankly, why is it surprising that he likes the game? Every time he brings up one of the game's flaws, it's inevitably followed by same variation of "but it doesn't bother me (but it may bother you)" or "I forgive it because of feature X which I like" - those are pretty clear signs of someone who is prepared to like it in spite of it's flaws.
#9 Sep 23 2010 at 9:25 AM Rating: Decent
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BastokFL wrote:
First off, it's not a review; it's just that guy's impression of the game.

Secondly, that's what critics do - they criticize. It's possible to like or even love a game without being blind to it's faults. As an example from personal experience, I adore Paladin's Quest, but there's no way, were I to give it a numerical score, that I would rate it above 80%. ****, I love Final Fantasy XII - in fact it's my favorite numbered game in the franchise - and yet I would still have an easier time describing the games flaws than it's strong points.

And frankly, why is it surprising that he likes the game? Every time he brings up one of the game's flaws, it's inevitably followed by same variation of "but it doesn't bother me (but it may bother you)" or "I forgive it because of feature X which I like" - those are pretty clear signs of someone who is prepared to like it in spite of it's flaws.


Thank you. If I could rate up, I would. I get so sick of random people saying critics write bad reviews. I'm glad someone gets it.
#10 Sep 23 2010 at 9:39 AM Rating: Default
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BastokFL wrote:
First off, it's not a review; it's just that guy's impression of the game.

Secondly, that's what critics do - they criticize. It's possible to like or even love a game without being blind to it's faults. As an example from personal experience, I adore Paladin's Quest, but there's no way, were I to give it a numerical score, that I would rate it above 80%. ****, I love Final Fantasy XII - in fact it's my favorite numbered game in the franchise - and yet I would still have an easier time describing the games flaws than it's strong points.

And frankly, why is it surprising that he likes the game? Every time he brings up one of the game's flaws, it's inevitably followed by same variation of "but it doesn't bother me (but it may bother you)" or "I forgive it because of feature X which I like" - those are pretty clear signs of someone who is prepared to like it in spite of it's flaws.


Thank you. If I could rate up, I would. I get so sick of random people saying critics write bad reviews. I'm glad someone gets it.

Get what? That "writers" on the Internet can just post streams of consciousness and get paid? I don't care if it's "Impressions" or a "Review" - if you're not going to tell me WHY the game is something you "adore" (could this get any gayer?) then you FAIL AT WRITING. This isn't a freaking religious experience, it's a bloody game.
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#11 Sep 23 2010 at 9:48 AM Rating: Good
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yfaithfully wrote:
Chromanin wrote:
BastokFL wrote:
First off, it's not a review; it's just that guy's impression of the game.

Secondly, that's what critics do - they criticize. It's possible to like or even love a game without being blind to it's faults. As an example from personal experience, I adore Paladin's Quest, but there's no way, were I to give it a numerical score, that I would rate it above 80%. ****, I love Final Fantasy XII - in fact it's my favorite numbered game in the franchise - and yet I would still have an easier time describing the games flaws than it's strong points.

And frankly, why is it surprising that he likes the game? Every time he brings up one of the game's flaws, it's inevitably followed by same variation of "but it doesn't bother me (but it may bother you)" or "I forgive it because of feature X which I like" - those are pretty clear signs of someone who is prepared to like it in spite of it's flaws.


Thank you. If I could rate up, I would. I get so sick of random people saying critics write bad reviews. I'm glad someone gets it.

Get what? That "writers" on the Internet can just post streams of consciousness and get paid? I don't care if it's "Impressions" or a "Review" - if you're not going to tell me WHY the game is something you "adore" (could this get any gayer?) then you FAIL AT WRITING. This isn't a freaking religious experience, it's a bloody game.


Then stop acting like it's the written formula to make a cure for cancer. Impressions are different from a review. In a review you're generally reviewing a game from a "professional" standpoint, e.g as unbiased as possible. Impressions or personal experience are generally just that..their personal take on it.

If you asked me what my favorite food is and I were to answer Tacos..do I have to go into detail on how it's because the way the flower tortilla shell was prepared and cooked @ x temperature? Or can I just say that I just like em?

The article writer actually says things that may annoy others but didn't necessarily bothered him. This is an age where people rely too heavily on others reviews to form their own.
#12 Sep 23 2010 at 12:48 PM Rating: Excellent
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yfaithfully wrote:
Chromanin wrote:
BastokFL wrote:
First off, it's not a review; it's just that guy's impression of the game.

Secondly, that's what critics do - they criticize. It's possible to like or even love a game without being blind to it's faults. As an example from personal experience, I adore Paladin's Quest, but there's no way, were I to give it a numerical score, that I would rate it above 80%. ****, I love Final Fantasy XII - in fact it's my favorite numbered game in the franchise - and yet I would still have an easier time describing the games flaws than it's strong points.

And frankly, why is it surprising that he likes the game? Every time he brings up one of the game's flaws, it's inevitably followed by same variation of "but it doesn't bother me (but it may bother you)" or "I forgive it because of feature X which I like" - those are pretty clear signs of someone who is prepared to like it in spite of it's flaws.


Thank you. If I could rate up, I would. I get so sick of random people saying critics write bad reviews. I'm glad someone gets it.

Get what? That "writers" on the Internet can just post streams of consciousness and get paid? I don't care if it's "Impressions" or a "Review" - if you're not going to tell me WHY the game is something you "adore" (could this get any gayer?) then you FAIL AT WRITING. This isn't a freaking religious experience, it's a bloody game.


The gameplay is structured while still allowing considerable freedom.

The graphics are stunning.

Controls work adeqautley.

Guildleves are enjoyable.

Combat is fun and engaging.

Really enjoys crafting, which he typically does not enjoy in games.

I've paraphrased, obviously, but these are all reasons he gives for liking the game. I don't think he fails as a writer; I think you fail as a reader.
#13 Sep 23 2010 at 1:44 PM Rating: Decent
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BastokFL wrote:
yfaithfully wrote:
Okay, so the game has lots of problems, guildleves are boring ...

... but the writer ADORES the game. Why? I saw no reasons whatsoever why the reviewer loved the game so much. I saw a few small positives, a few small negatives.

A terribly written review.


First off, it's not a review; it's just that guy's impression of the game.

Secondly, that's what critics do - they criticize. It's possible to like or even love a game without being blind to it's faults. As an example from personal experience, I adore Paladin's Quest, but there's no way, were I to give it a numerical score, that I would rate it above 80%. ****, I love Final Fantasy XII - in fact it's my favorite numbered game in the franchise - and yet I would still have an easier time describing the games flaws than it's strong points.



And frankly, why is it surprising that he likes the game? Every time he brings up one of the game's flaws, it's inevitably followed by same variation of "but it doesn't bother me (but it may bother you)" or "I forgive it because of feature X which I like" - those are pretty clear signs of someone who is prepared to like it in spite of it's flaws.


I have to agree with yfaithfully.

His middle part didn't flow well with his bookended thesis.

That is writing 101 whether it's an opinion or official review.

As far as the general content of the piece, I agree with a lot of his points (even though he was being very objective) but it's this piece:

Adoration. Pure, unadulterated adoration. I was awestruck at the game I was playing, and every subsequent moment of play only reinforced that initial rush. For every choice that was a misstep, there were another half-dozen decisions that were just plain brilliant.

That threw me for a loop, but NOT for it's subjectivity. I would have much rather read a whole essay on this. What were those half dozen decisions? Why then call it an opinion if you're going to offer the opposing side more? Yes there were a couple strawmen thrown in there, but for the most part he included valid complaints then stated in so many words, "But it's ok I forgive them."

Content aside, functionally it was a clunky piece.
#14 Sep 23 2010 at 1:56 PM Rating: Good
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I thought he did a good job - said right off the bat he liked the game so he was going to go out of his way to talk about the things that bothered other people - notes some reasons he likes it, talks about the issues that most of us agree with (whether we like the game or not) and then ended up talking about how much he enjoys the game...

How does that not make sense to people?
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#15 Sep 23 2010 at 2:05 PM Rating: Default
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The issue is that we know precisely what he's saying - he's saying he likes graphics and atmosphere more than gameplay and depth. He just doesn't want to admit that. I'm not sure why he doesn't want to admit that - perhaps it comes off as shallow, although I personally wouldn't judge. The whole article then is really pointless - as someone above said, it's really just the last paragraph that matters.
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