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#1 Sep 23 2010 at 8:32 AM Rating: Decent
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I know this is going to be another addition to the pile of technical spec issues, but I feel the need to post anyway. I picked up a copy of CE along with a PNY Nvidia GTX 460 1gb (self overclocked to 851/1850). This card replaced my dated 9800GT. The rest of my system specs are: AMD Athlon64 X2 (overclocked to 3ghz), 4gb ram, Windows 7 64.
I set the game settings to a myriad of settings and my frame rates still suffer. I'm averaging 15-20 FPS consistently. After trying 1680x1050 (full screen), Textures: High, Texture Filtering: High, Shadows: Standard, Ambient Occlusion: OFF, Depth of Field: ON, FSAA: 4x, I still get low frame rates. Lowering the resolution and shadows, turning off DoF did nothing to alleviate the low frame rates. Any ideas?
#2 Sep 23 2010 at 8:33 AM Rating: Good
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I know this is going to be another addition to the pile of technical spec issues, but I feel the need to post anyway. I picked up a copy of CE along with a PNY Nvidia GTX 460 1gb (self overclocked to 851/1850). This card replaced my dated 9800GT. The rest of my system specs are: AMD Athlon64 X2 (overclocked to 3ghz), 4gb ram, Windows 7 64.
I set the game settings to a myriad of settings and my frame rates still suffer. I'm averaging 15-20 FPS consistently. After trying 1680x1050 (full screen), Textures: High, Texture Filtering: High, Shadows: Standard, Ambient Occlusion: OFF, Depth of Field: ON, FSAA: 4x, I still get low frame rates. Lowering the resolution and shadows, turning off DoF did nothing to alleviate the low frame rates. Any ideas?


What is your processor utilization rate while you have the game open?
#3 Sep 23 2010 at 8:40 AM Rating: Decent
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I'll check that after the servers come back up.
#4 Sep 23 2010 at 8:43 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm wanting to say (and hoping) that it could be older drivers for the 9800 left some garbage behind. I used the Nvidia uninstaller, rebooted and installed the drivers for the new card. I loaded up WoW and didn't see any FPS improvements there either, though Crysis avg's 20-30 FPS with everything maxed @ 1680x1050.
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You might be hitting a CPU botleneck a -little- bit...but, what you described is actually just about the limits of the 460. It's not a top-of-the-line card. It does what it's suppose to do for its price range, and it does the performance-per-dollar ratio better than any other card out there.

For example:
I have the asusDirectCU 1gb 460, and play with the following setup on the following specs:

Phenom II x6 1055t CPU -- Overclocked from 2.8ghz(stock) to 3.78ghz
4gb ram (1066 7 7 7 20)
GTX 460 1gb -- overclocked to 850/2100 (core/memory)
890GXE mobo chipset
Corsair F40 SSD

I play:
1600x1050 res
4xMSAA
DoF/AO off,
All texture and shadow settings on highest.

In every single area except spots like dead-center on an aetheryte exp camp, I have nearly 60 fps. In the cities I hover between 30-40 fps and with lots of people on the screen it dips to 25 fps for a few seconds on occasion, usually hovers 28-32.

I recently went down a resolution to 1440x1050 or something of that sorts to increase FPS just enough so I could turn DoF on, along with all of my other current settings above. Makes for a great look and 25 fps is still barely noticeable unless you're panning the camera around constantly in circles. Well, for me anyway.

And this is the extent of the GTX 460 in most cases. MSI afterburner shows my 460 at 100% usage with temps between 65 and 70c when playing XIV. But you might be hitting a CPU bottleneck.

I've noticed the GPU usage will drop under 100% if you don't have some settings set higher. If I play at these resolutions with MSAA off and DoF off my FPS never drops under 30 even in the most crowded areas.



Basically...play at 720p windowed if you want shiny effects too. Or just a step above 720p. Hope that helps!
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#6 Sep 23 2010 at 8:52 AM Rating: Decent
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Do you have the 260.63 beta drivers? Here's the Win7 64 version: http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-64bit-260.63-beta-driver.html
#7 Sep 23 2010 at 8:53 AM Rating: Decent
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FenrirXIII wrote:
You might be hitting a CPU botleneck a -little- bit...but, what you described is actually just about the limits of the 460. It's not a top-of-the-line card. It does what it's suppose to do for its price range, and it does the performance-per-dollar ratio better than any other card out there.

For example:
I have the asusDirectCU 1gb 460, and play with the following setup on the following specs:

Phenom II x6 1055t CPU -- Overclocked from 2.8ghz(stock) to 3.78ghz
4gb ram (1066 7 7 7 20)
GTX 460 1gb -- overclocked to 850/2100 (core/memory)
890GXE mobo chipset
Corsair F40 SSD

I play:
1600x1050 res
4xMSAA
DoF/AO off,
All texture and shadow settings on highest.

In every single area except spots like dead-center on an aetheryte exp camp, I have nearly 60 fps. In the cities I hover between 30-40 fps and with lots of people on the screen it dips to 25 fps for a few seconds on occasion, usually hovers 28-32.

I recently went down a resolution to 1440x1050 or something of that sorts to increase FPS just enough so I could turn DoF on, along with all of my other current settings above. Makes for a great look and 25 fps is still barely noticeable unless you're panning the camera around constantly in circles. Well, for me anyway.

And this is the extent of the GTX 460 in most cases. MSI afterburner shows my 460 at 100% usage with temps between 65 and 70c when playing XIV. But you might be hitting a CPU bottleneck.

I've noticed the GPU usage will drop under 100% if you don't have some settings set higher. If I play at these resolutions with MSAA off and DoF off my FPS never drops under 30 even in the most crowded areas.



Basically...play at 720p windowed if you want shiny effects too. Or just a step above 720p. Hope that helps!


Thanks for that info. :) Technically I should be getting similar frame rates that you are seeing...which I would find acceptable. But my frame rates are down in the teens. I have a feeling something else is going on in my system and I'm on a mission to find out what it is. My CPU is probably the bottleneck here but I doubt it's a small enough bottleneck to cause the frames to be this low. I'm gonna run system cleaners and the like to make sure that nothing else is starving games of resources.
#8 Sep 23 2010 at 8:54 AM Rating: Decent
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kahilm wrote:
Do you have the 260.63 beta drivers? Here's the Win7 64 version: http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-64bit-260.63-beta-driver.html


No I don't, actually. I'll give those a go after I clean the current ones out. Thanks! :)
#9 Sep 23 2010 at 9:16 AM Rating: Good
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My CPU is probably the bottleneck here but I doubt it's a small enough bottleneck to cause the frames to be this low.

Just as a comparison with my experience, I've got an X2 3800+ (2.0GHz, exactly the "minimum") and with everything turned as low as possible at 1280x800 (other than buffer which is at 1x) the framerates were around 13-15 with dips to 9 when panning the camera. This was standing at the LL repair NPC during OB. The other computer has an X4 630 (2.8GHz) and with fairly high settings at 1152x720 got 25fps. 15-20 sounds honestly plausible for your setup especially if you're running 1680x1050. I would expect that upgrading to an AM3 X3 or higher would give you the bump that you're wanting, from the extra core(s) and faster pipelines. I'll be upgrading the slower PC as soon as my wife gets tired of it being slightly slow.
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#10yfaithfully, Posted: Sep 23 2010 at 9:16 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) A 460 can't handle this game?
#11 Sep 23 2010 at 9:39 AM Rating: Good
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Paladinhammer78 wrote:
I know this is going to be another addition to the pile of technical spec issues, but I feel the need to post anyway. I picked up a copy of CE along with a PNY Nvidia GTX 460 1gb (self overclocked to 851/1850). ?


Put the gpu clock and ram back to stock timings.
#12 Sep 23 2010 at 10:05 AM Rating: Good
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Wups I never saw that you had put your CPU into your OP...(just kinda skimmed through the paragraph with numbers>.<)

Your CPU is -definitely- your bottleneck. Just because it doesn't have a lot of cores. If you had a dual core intel you'd be better off due to the hyperthreading. :/ If my cpu is overclocked so much higher than stock and it still gets good utilization on all cores then yours will be hurting bad.

Have you tried the priority booster program someone made for ffxiv? http://www.ffxivcore.com/topic/14676-ffxiv-priority-booster-official-topic/

It also has thread optimization for dual core and multi-core cpus, but seems to be more effective for dual-cores. My friend has an old dual core intel(one of the e8000 series) and an ATI 5870, he saw biggest performance gains in OC'ing but saw a healthy 5-7 fps with this priority booster program. Might not work with same results for your athlon, but definitely worth the shot?


too late: servers went down 5 mins ago for maint. D:
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#13 Sep 23 2010 at 10:19 AM Rating: Decent
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yfaithfully wrote:
A 460 can't handle this game?

hAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Wow. You realize how few people have rigs then that can play this game - and how most of them would never play a carebear game like this?

If this is true, then this game will have maybe 500 subscribers next month. Take note of what is happening, this will be an epic moment in video game history.


No, the problem lies somewhere else - a GTX460 runs the game fine. I still only have an I-3 dual-core 2.93ghz and a GT240 and It runs without a hiccup on the standard settings.

Edited, Sep 23rd 2010 12:20pm by Shassa
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#14 Sep 23 2010 at 10:20 AM Rating: Default
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FenrirXIII wrote:
Wups I never saw that you had put your CPU into your OP...(just kinda skimmed through the paragraph with numbers>.<)

Your CPU is -definitely- your bottleneck. Just because it doesn't have a lot of cores. If you had a dual core intel you'd be better off due to the hyperthreading. :/ If my cpu is overclocked so much higher than stock and it still gets good utilization on all cores then yours will be hurting bad.

Have you tried the priority booster program someone made for ffxiv? http://www.ffxivcore.com/topic/14676-ffxiv-priority-booster-official-topic/

It also has thread optimization for dual core and multi-core cpus, but seems to be more effective for dual-cores. My friend has an old dual core intel(one of the e8000 series) and an ATI 5870, he saw biggest performance gains in OC'ing but saw a healthy 5-7 fps with this priority booster program. Might not work with same results for your athlon, but definitely worth the shot?


too late: servers went down 5 mins ago for maint. D:


From what I've read in that post you linked, the issue lies within the games CPU utilization which leads me to believe that Squenix released this game too early...without fully optimizing it. I admit, my CPU is my systems weak link but this still should not be happening...Squenix has a big issue on their hands and needs to alleviate it. Nevertheless, I am going to order this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727 since my CPU upgrade is really long overdue.
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A 460 can't handle this game?

hAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Wow. You realize how few people have rigs then that can play this game - and how most of them would never play a carebear game like this?

If this is true, then this game will have maybe 500 subscribers next month. Take note of what is happening, this will be an epic moment in video game history.


Rage much?

I run the game fine with a EVGA GXT460, 8GB RAM and an iNTEL Q6600 lame *** CPU. The OP has some bottleneck, definately not the GPU though.
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Depth of Field and Ambient Occlusion are the two biggest framerate killers.
#17 Sep 23 2010 at 10:31 AM Rating: Good
Ya, I myself have a GTX460 with an E5200 2.5ghz, and the game runs quite smoothly on high settings with 1920x1200 resolution.
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yfaithfully wrote:
A 460 can't handle this game?

hAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Wow. You realize how few people have rigs then that can play this game - and how most of them would never play a carebear game like this?

If this is true, then this game will have maybe 500 subscribers next month. Take note of what is happening, this will be an epic moment in video game history.


Rage much?

I run the game fine with a EVGA GXT460, 8GB RAM and an iNTEL Q6600 lame *** CPU. The OP has some bottleneck, definately not the GPU though.


Yeah, and finding that bottleneck is what's killing me. I'll go into detail on my system:
AMD Athlon 64 X2 5400+ BE @ 3200mhz
4GB RAM
MSI K9A2VM-FD motherboard
PNY Geforce GTX 460 1gb
Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Gamer
7200rpm SATA hdd

After seeing others run this game with similar processors, I'm skeptical about that being the bottleneck here.

Edited, Sep 23rd 2010 1:52pm by Paladinhammer78
#19 Sep 23 2010 at 12:00 PM Rating: Default
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I have an MSI 460 GTX 1gb cyclone.

I don't get 100 percent gpu utilization, ever.

I use a phenom II 955 oced to 3800.

I OC the card to 900 shader 2200 memory and it runs perfectly fine. Though I wish the card was at 100 percent usage.
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#20 Sep 23 2010 at 12:03 PM Rating: Decent
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Once the servers come back up, I will be able to see if my driver cleaning/installation of beta driver's will yield any improvements.
#21 Sep 23 2010 at 12:04 PM Rating: Decent
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yfaithfully wrote:
A 460 can't handle this game?

hAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Wow. You realize how few people have rigs then that can play this game - and how most of them would never play a carebear game like this?

If this is true, then this game will have maybe 500 subscribers next month. Take note of what is happening, this will be an epic moment in video game history.


Well it simply isn't true I play with the same settings in 1920x1080 with a 5770 which certainly isnt as good as a 460 and have no issues with FPS, I'd say the issue is something else not with the game, possible CPU but it sounds like something else as well at least.

Also the servers are laggy in and around camps I know people with good rigs still getting lag I dont think it has anything to do with the PC but just the laggy servers. Whether thats the case with the OP idk but I do see ppl blaming their rigs for performance issues when its the game and/or servers.

For instance during closed beta someone was blaming their rig cause of the UI/menu lag in tech forums somewhere else and ppl were suggesting things to do and upgrade GPU and such when the real issue was the game itself. Just figure I'd throw it out there.

Edited, Sep 23rd 2010 2:08pm by Sherri88
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I think its fullscreen is the issue, i was lagging in fullscreen on lowest settings.
but 30ish FPS in 1200 window mode, on high texture/filtering, 8xsampling, and resoution sized buffer.
On low buffer size i had very good fps
that was on Radeon 4650.

but yah window mode is boring.
#23 Sep 23 2010 at 12:10 PM Rating: Decent
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I think its fullscreen is the issue, i was lagging in fullscreen on lowest settings.
but 30ish FPS in 1200 window mode, on high texture/filtering, 8xsampling, and resoution sized buffer.
On low buffer size i had very good fps
that was on Radeon 4650.

but yah window mode is boring.


I can deal with window mode, I play WoW windowed as I have 2 monitors and use the second monitor for other tasks while playing. However, FFXIV's window modes are weird...scaling doesnt seem to be proper.
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nvidia users should not have AA set to 4x msaa when you can use 8x csaa. It's the same thing but 8xcsaa uses less resources.
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I've noticed the GPU usage will drop under 100% if you don't have some settings set higher.


This is true. In open beta, with the standard default settings my GPU usage was about 30% average (also using 460 1Gb, OCed to 880). Once I maxed out settings, GPU usage was pegged at 99%. Huge difference.

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#26 Sep 23 2010 at 12:17 PM Rating: Decent
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nvidia users should not have AA set to 4x msaa when you can use 8x csaa. It's the same thing but 8xcsaa uses less resources.


If only that option were available....
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If only that option were available....


It should be under your Multisampling tab in the FF14 config.
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#28 Sep 23 2010 at 12:33 PM Rating: Decent
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If only that option were available....


It should be under your Multisampling tab in the FF14 config.


I stand corrected. I see it now. I guess I overlooked it in my fear of going over 4x :D
#29 Sep 23 2010 at 12:37 PM Rating: Good
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The CPU is the bottleneck. How did nobody spot that yet?

If you ran the benchmark and got nearly the same score on low as you did on high that'd be the most obvious way to tell.
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#30 Sep 23 2010 at 12:49 PM Rating: Decent
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The CPU is the bottleneck. How did nobody spot that yet?

If you ran the benchmark and got nearly the same score on low as you did on high that'd be the most obvious way to tell.


Actually, it was suggested to me further up in the thread. I am getting the same results from both high and low res benchmarks so it has to be the CPU. Guess I'll have newegg overnight a new Phenom II X4 my way. :)
#31 Sep 23 2010 at 12:52 PM Rating: Decent
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How do I see what kind of FPS I'm getting?
#32 Sep 23 2010 at 12:52 PM Rating: Decent
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but....could running full screen be a large part of my problem as well?
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How do I see what kind of FPS I'm getting?


I use Fraps.
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FenrirXIII wrote:
You might be hitting a CPU botleneck a -little- bit...but, what you described is actually just about the limits of the 460. It's not a top-of-the-line card. It does what it's suppose to do for its price range, and it does the performance-per-dollar ratio better than any other card out there.

For example:
I have the asusDirectCU 1gb 460, and play with the following setup on the following specs:

Phenom II x6 1055t CPU -- Overclocked from 2.8ghz(stock) to 3.78ghz
4gb ram (1066 7 7 7 20)
GTX 460 1gb -- overclocked to 850/2100 (core/memory)
890GXE mobo chipset
Corsair F40 SSD

I play:
1600x1050 res
4xMSAA
DoF/AO off,
All texture and shadow settings on highest.

In every single area except spots like dead-center on an aetheryte exp camp, I have nearly 60 fps. In the cities I hover between 30-40 fps and with lots of people on the screen it dips to 25 fps for a few seconds on occasion, usually hovers 28-32.

I recently went down a resolution to 1440x1050 or something of that sorts to increase FPS just enough so I could turn DoF on, along with all of my other current settings above. Makes for a great look and 25 fps is still barely noticeable unless you're panning the camera around constantly in circles. Well, for me anyway.

And this is the extent of the GTX 460 in most cases. MSI afterburner shows my 460 at 100% usage with temps between 65 and 70c when playing XIV. But you might be hitting a CPU bottleneck.

I've noticed the GPU usage will drop under 100% if you don't have some settings set higher. If I play at these resolutions with MSAA off and DoF off my FPS never drops under 30 even in the most crowded areas.



Basically...play at 720p windowed if you want shiny effects too. Or just a step above 720p. Hope that helps!



not a high end card?lol

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

this is constantly updated, dont even try faulting the card for the low fps. lol
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kahilm wrote:
Do you have the 260.63 beta drivers? Here's the Win7 64 version: http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-64bit-260.63-beta-driver.html


Did these help anyone else? I'm a little afraid to use them.
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#36 Sep 23 2010 at 1:36 PM Rating: Decent
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Must be the CPU. I turned everything down to low and the frame rates are still in the teens.
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kahilm wrote:
Do you have the 260.63 beta drivers? Here's the Win7 64 version: http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-64bit-260.63-beta-driver.html


Did these help anyone else? I'm a little afraid to use them.


I tried that driver in open beta. It didn't make any difference for me. People linking that beta driver, misread the patch notes. It has a patch for 3D Vision for FFXIV "benchmark".
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Must be the CPU. I turned everything down to low and the frame rates are still in the teens.


Dude, turn off Depth of Field and Ambient Occlusion if you have those on. Definitely AO - it will certainly increase your fps.

While waiting for a new video card for a second machine (i5 760 & 4gig ram@1600mhz), I had an old 8800gt 512mb in there. Ran the game on standard settings @ 1920x1080 at around 25fps at a crystal and 40fps in the wild doing leves.

The other system has an older q9450@3.2ghz, 8gigs ram@1000mhz, and 2x GTX275 in sli and it runs the game @ 1680x1050 max settings with no issues.

Once you turn off Depth of Field and Ambient Occlusion, if you're still getting sh*tty fps, then your CPU is your bottleneck.

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I don't believe you ever posted what buffer setting you are using? If it's set to resolution or lower (three-quarters or two-thirds), then you should see an increase in FPS. The game itself will look terrible if you set it lower than resolution, but definitely more playable. Higher than resolution will look better, but your FPS will surely drop.

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Paladinhammer78 wrote:
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The CPU is the bottleneck. How did nobody spot that yet?

If you ran the benchmark and got nearly the same score on low as you did on high that'd be the most obvious way to tell.


Actually, it was suggested to me further up in the thread. I am getting the same results from both high and low res benchmarks so it has to be the CPU. Guess I'll have newegg overnight a new Phenom II X4 my way. :)
Sorry, missed it in the mix of all of the talk about the GPU.
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OP, I have just about the same set up as you except that my processor is a comparable Intel and my 460 is the 768mb version. I also have my settings for FFXIV the same as well, and i'm not having issues with the FPS.

The only other thing I'll add is that i'm still using XP, so maybe it has something to do with windows 7?

I hope it works out for you because I think the 460 is a great card.
#42 Sep 23 2010 at 8:46 PM Rating: Decent
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I don't believe you ever posted what buffer setting you are using? If it's set to resolution or lower (three-quarters or two-thirds), then you should see an increase in FPS. The game itself will look terrible if you set it lower than resolution, but definitely more playable. Higher than resolution will look better, but your FPS will surely drop.



I left it set to resolution.
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OP, I have just about the same set up as you except that my processor is a comparable Intel and my 460 is the 768mb version. I also have my settings for FFXIV the same as well, and i'm not having issues with the FPS.

The only other thing I'll add is that i'm still using XP, so maybe it has something to do with windows 7?

I hope it works out for you because I think the 460 is a great card.


That is a possibility. I did order a Phenom II 955 today and hopefully that will resolve the issue. If not, I will probably reformat and reinstall Windows.
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Ormazd wrote:
I don't believe you ever posted what buffer setting you are using? If it's set to resolution or lower (three-quarters or two-thirds), then you should see an increase in FPS. The game itself will look terrible if you set it lower than resolution, but definitely more playable. Higher than resolution will look better, but your FPS will surely drop.



I left it set to resolution.


Again I say, reset your GPU and everything else that you have overclocked. Restart and see if it makes a difference. DDR5 (GPU) works differently from previous generations, and if you overclock past it's capacity then you will actually make it perform less than it is capable of.

Don't quote me unless I am correct. :P
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Paladinhammer78 wrote:
Ormazd wrote:
I don't believe you ever posted what buffer setting you are using? If it's set to resolution or lower (three-quarters or two-thirds), then you should see an increase in FPS. The game itself will look terrible if you set it lower than resolution, but definitely more playable. Higher than resolution will look better, but your FPS will surely drop.



I left it set to resolution.


Again I say, reset your GPU and everything else that you have overclocked. Restart and see if it makes a difference. DDR5 (GPU) works differently from previous generations, and if you overclock past it's capacity then you will actually make it perform less than it is capable of.

Don't quote me unless I am correct. :P


I tried that too, no improvement nor decrease in performance.
#46 Sep 23 2010 at 9:05 PM Rating: Good
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I know this is going to be another addition to the pile of technical spec issues, but I feel the need to post anyway. I picked up a copy of CE along with a PNY Nvidia GTX 460 1gb (self overclocked to 851/1850). This card replaced my dated 9800GT. The rest of my system specs are: AMD Athlon64 X2 (overclocked to 3ghz), 4gb ram, Windows 7 64.
I set the game settings to a myriad of settings and my frame rates still suffer. I'm averaging 15-20 FPS consistently. After trying 1680x1050 (full screen), Textures: High, Texture Filtering: High, Shadows: Standard, Ambient Occlusion: OFF, Depth of Field: ON, FSAA: 4x, I still get low frame rates. Lowering the resolution and shadows, turning off DoF did nothing to alleviate the low frame rates. Any ideas?


Set it to 1920x1080 if your monitor can handle it. Textures high, texture filtering low, shadows low, ambient occlusion off, depth of field off, 2x. And then start the game. There are options under configuration. I forget the name right now, since I don't get the retail until next week. Look in there for video options and switch it off to see if it helps. I want to say it is draw distance. One of them will up your fps by 5 fps or more.
#47 Sep 23 2010 at 9:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Parsalyn wrote:
Paladinhammer78 wrote:
I know this is going to be another addition to the pile of technical spec issues, but I feel the need to post anyway. I picked up a copy of CE along with a PNY Nvidia GTX 460 1gb (self overclocked to 851/1850). This card replaced my dated 9800GT. The rest of my system specs are: AMD Athlon64 X2 (overclocked to 3ghz), 4gb ram, Windows 7 64.
I set the game settings to a myriad of settings and my frame rates still suffer. I'm averaging 15-20 FPS consistently. After trying 1680x1050 (full screen), Textures: High, Texture Filtering: High, Shadows: Standard, Ambient Occlusion: OFF, Depth of Field: ON, FSAA: 4x, I still get low frame rates. Lowering the resolution and shadows, turning off DoF did nothing to alleviate the low frame rates. Any ideas?


Set it to 1920x1080 if your monitor can handle it. Textures high, texture filtering low, shadows low, ambient occlusion off, depth of field off, 2x. And then start the game. There are options under configuration. I forget the name right now, since I don't get the retail until next week. Look in there for video options and switch it off to see if it helps. I want to say it is draw distance. One of them will up your fps by 5 fps or more.


My monitor tops at 1680x1050. I even tried running the game at lower resolutions and all config settings to low and it still pushes out single digit - teen FPS. I didn't see any in-game settings for draw distance.
If it helps any, I didn't notice much performance increase in World of Warcraft either. I gained maybe 10 FPS in Dalaran but the FPS still lingers in the low 20's in densely populated areas. I'm started to become determined that this Athlon 64 X2 is to blame...especially considering I score around 2K in the FFXIV bench at both high and low res.
#48 Sep 23 2010 at 9:19 PM Rating: Decent
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My monitor tops at 1680x1050. I even tried running the game at lower resolutions and all config settings to low and it still pushes out single digit - teen FPS. I didn't see any in-game settings for draw distance.
If it helps any, I didn't notice much performance increase in World of Warcraft either. I gained maybe 10 FPS in Dalaran but the FPS still lingers in the low 20's in densely populated areas. I'm started to become determined that this Athlon 64 X2 is to blame...especially considering I score around 2K in the FFXIV bench at both high and low res.


Sounds like the processor to me. Especially because you are still experiencing problems in WoW. The Athlon series is getting outdated anyhow. You should either go with a Phenom II or if you can afford it switch to Intel. The latter would be best, but not cheapest.

Edited, Sep 23rd 2010 11:19pm by BRizzl3
#49 Sep 23 2010 at 9:23 PM Rating: Decent
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My monitor tops at 1680x1050. I even tried running the game at lower resolutions and all config settings to low and it still pushes out single digit - teen FPS. I didn't see any in-game settings for draw distance.
If it helps any, I didn't notice much performance increase in World of Warcraft either. I gained maybe 10 FPS in Dalaran but the FPS still lingers in the low 20's in densely populated areas. I'm started to become determined that this Athlon 64 X2 is to blame...especially considering I score around 2K in the FFXIV bench at both high and low res.


Sounds like the processor to me. Especially because you are still experiencing problems in WoW. The Athlon series is getting outdated anyhow. You should either go with a Phenom II or if you can afford it switch to Intel. The latter would be best, but not cheapest.

Edited, Sep 23rd 2010 11:19pm by BRizzl3


I did actually. :) Ordered a Phenom II 955 today from Newegg. Guess I should just leave this thread alone and update once I get it installed. *edit* I monitored everything while playing WoW and noticed 90% CPU utilization (both cores) and only 40% GPU utilization.

Edited, Sep 23rd 2010 11:25pm by Paladinhammer78
#50 Sep 23 2010 at 9:24 PM Rating: Decent
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Good luck. =D
#51 Sep 23 2010 at 9:25 PM Rating: Decent
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Thanks! And thanks to everyone for their input! :)
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