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#1 Sep 23 2010 at 10:53 AM Rating: Default
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So, since "It's just beta!!!!!" can't be used as a rally cry/shield against critique, what can you say now?

Sorry if this seems like a troll, but I'm genuinely curious if people will continue that sort of mentality of if some people are waking up?
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As far as launches go this has been pretty great, I'm not sure what you're complaining about. A 3 hour maintenance in the early evening?
#3hexaemeron, Posted: Sep 23 2010 at 10:55 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) No no, I mean all this magical content that was "supposedly promised" that... just as magically isn't present.
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I am also getting a little worried of all the zones that just reply with "Cannot proceed any further...."
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hexaemeron wrote:
what can you say now?


I know I'm not supposed to feed the trolls but I'll bite: What exactly are you complaining about?
#6 Sep 23 2010 at 10:57 AM Rating: Good
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Hmmm .. I don't know I haven't run into any issues so far. Hardware mouse present, the lag is gone for me now, smooth as butter. It seems pretty great so far to me.
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Well, I'm still kinda confused as to why they didn't implement small things like inventory sorting and the like.. But overall the launch has been great for me. Just a few minor bugs which will hopefully get ironed out soon.

Hopefully...
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What do we say?

I can't speak for everybody, but...

"It's good. Will take a while to work out the kinks, but I'll be sticking around"

I have to ask, why people want other people to dislike something as much as they do?
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#9 Sep 23 2010 at 10:59 AM Rating: Good
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hexaemeron wrote:
So, since "It's just beta!!!!!" can't be used as a rally cry/shield against critique, what can you say now?

Sorry if this seems like a troll, but I'm genuinely curious if people will continue that sort of mentality of if some people are waking up?


So quit if you think people need to "wake up"

Fact is yes, it is just release. This is an MMO. The game won't be review-able until at least the first major patch. Come dude, is this your first MMO or have you just never played one from beta through launch?
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Nice clean start, no server crashes that I saw. Billing options were a hassle to some, really I don't see why SE didn't put them in place a tad earlier. Hoping to see a story line continuation, not sure if they just don't have one yet, I'm just not high enough yet, or they are waiting for the 30th to get us out of the road of the new crowd.

All in all nothing I didn't expect.
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You weren't around for the Aion release, I take it. The game was nigh unplayable for like 3-5 days due to extreme lag causing rubber banding and server hiccups, and tons of hours of maintenance. This release is going great, from everything I've seen.
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You obviously never played an MMO @ release. This is all normal stuff.
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Hmmm .. I don't know I haven't run into any issues so far. Hardware mouse present, the lag is gone for me now, smooth as butter. It seems pretty great so far to me.


Yeah... I've had no problems whatsoever. I can't for the life of me understand what anyone is complaining about at this point. People told me mmo launch would be buggy and full of crashes etc.... but I just popped the disc in, installed, set my account up, logged in - and BAM! Playing. Played for about 12 hours of the last 24... so yeah. What am I supposed to be defending? The fun and engaging gameplay? The creative job system? The gorgeous vistas?
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They didn't really add anything. The hardware mouse works. The game is smoother, don't know if that's because of anything more than less people playing. They didn't add anything that I can see as of yet. Some areas are still blocked off.

So, yeah, they can still use it's only BETA. Because that's what this still feels like.
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Yeah... I've had no problems whatsoever. I can't for the life of me understand what anyone is complaining about at this point. People told me mmo launch would be buggy and full of crashes etc.... but I just popped the disc in, installed, set my account up, logged in - and BAM! Playing. Played for about 12 hours of the last 24... so yeah. What am I supposed to be defending? The fun and engaging gameplay? The creative job system? The gorgeous vistas?


Yea, I have to agree and say I've had about the same experience so far. The game is even still pre-release (early access is not release), and yet people are complaining about lack of content? I cannot figure out where that complaint could possibly come from... Smiley: oyvey

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#16 Sep 23 2010 at 11:06 AM Rating: Good
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They didn't really add anything. The hardware mouse works. The game is smoother, don't know if that's because of anything more than less people playing. They didn't add anything that I can see as of yet. Some areas are still blocked off.

So, yeah, they can still use it's only BETA. Because that's what this still feels like.


They didn't add anything? How can you even begin to say that when the game has only been out for CE for two days? Open Beta was almost 3 weeks long so I'm guessing you probably aren't as far now as you were in that. Unless you just logged in and started running around to see what changed.
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hexaemeron wrote:
So, since "It's just beta!!!!!" can't be used as a rally cry/shield against critique, what can you say now?

Sorry if this seems like a troll, but I'm genuinely curious if people will continue that sort of mentality of if some people are waking up?


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Content takes time, more so with SE. They like to see what players are doing and what direction to go with. I agree that SE dropped the ball in some aspects of the game and why they didn't just improve on aspects they created in FFXI like the search function. To be honest I can't say if the game has content or not because I have done anything other than leve at the moment. I couldn't tell you if there are quest npc in town or not. If you really want to make the game better than give feedback to SE instead of just making compliant threads.
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#19 Sep 23 2010 at 11:07 AM Rating: Good
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You weren't around for the Aion release, I take it. The game was nigh unplayable for like 3-5 days due to extreme lag causing rubber banding and server hiccups, and tons of hours of maintenance. This release is going great, from everything I've seen.


I played Aion at release, it wasn't bad at all actually o.O, though a number of the Australians I was playing with had the rubber banding you speak of. Their only issue was overpopulation and a terribly long queue.
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I wonder if were misinterpreting "Early Access" with the Launch date of the 30th. I have a feeling once the 30th comes around we will see another patch.
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Yea, I have to agree and say I've had about the same experience so far. The game is even still pre-release (early access is not release), and yet people are complaining about lack of content? I cannot figure out where that complaint could possibly come from... Smiley: oyvey

Maybe from people who want content? They're not gonna write content in the next few weeks, you know. You're not getting more than 5 areas for a long time.

There was lag in Aion the first week (although I never noticed it) cuz TONS of people were playing it. It sounds like half the people who pre-ordered the CE haven't even gotten it yet or been able to play, and that's not even that many players to start with.

And you're right, this is pre-release. You're paying to beta test a console game. The real release is 2011.
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Also, "content" is both an overly used, and often misunderstood term in MMO games.

Content doesn't exist until later stages - they pretty much lay the tracks as the trains running. Early game is always about keeping players busy with grinding and establishling and evolving game systems and mechanics.

Standard life cycle of an MMO.

The only problems FFXIV really faces are the lack of meaningful group dynamics, and the potentially stifling nature of point allotment. It's a little indefined right no, kinda wishy-washy. That will change in time.


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#23 Sep 23 2010 at 11:09 AM Rating: Excellent
I have no complaints. I started at the beginning of closed beta and have seen the game evolve and change (for the better) drastically. Are there things I think could be improved? Of course. Most of those things they promised they were working on but did not promise they would necessarily be ready at release.

I'm loving the game. If I actually run out of content before they add more, I'll alter that statement. I don't see that happening.

From Open Beta to release, I've seen the following fixed/improved:
1. Synthesis lag/crashing
2. NPC selling/buying lag
3. Hardware mouse
4. Connection was staying yellow to red, now green all the time
5. Guildleve cool-down timer
6. Prior lack of level 1 local guildleves -- I saw plenty this morning
7. Abilities set don't disappear now when I change classes and change back

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And you're right, this is pre-release. You're paying to beta test a console game. The real release is 2011.

If you consider this to be a beta, then this will be the best game EVER when what you're claiming to be the real release comes out.

Edited, Sep 23rd 2010 1:13pm by LuthienOfSeraph
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Please stop name dropping Aion. The game was a year old before being released in the west.
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#25 Sep 23 2010 at 11:11 AM Rating: Good
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I beleave they will add huge patches soon with the other parts of the game, techinicly the game isnt released until the 30th this is what they call the "early access" phase for people that decided to spend the extra money for the CE.

What makes me say that is that on the game case it says you need 15GB free hard drive space for installation and 6GB on the drive containing My Documents for downloads and we have only seen a lil over 500MB atm.
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#26 Sep 23 2010 at 11:16 AM Rating: Good
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I beleave they will add huge patches soon with the other parts of the game, techinicly the game isnt released until the 30th this is what they call the "early access" phase for people that decided to spend the extra money for the CE.

What makes me say that is that on the game case it says you need 15GB free hard drive space for installation and 6GB on the drive containing My Documents for downloads and we have only seen a lil over 500MB atm.

While I agree there will probably be lots of patches, my "Final Fantasy XIV" folder under Program Files is taking up 9.05GB of space, showing 9.41GB size on disk. The folder in "My Games" is 6.18MB.
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#27 Sep 23 2010 at 11:17 AM Rating: Excellent
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I gotta say the game is pretty smooth. I didn't play beta at all. I haven't notice any of the lag that most peeps complain about in beta. It feels like a great start, gonna play a lil more once i get off work.
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Maybe from people who want content? They're not gonna write content in the next few weeks, you know. You're not getting more than 5 areas for a long time.


Look, I'm sorry...let's say for this example...yesterday was release and the 22nd marks the release of the game. It's the 23rd. Are you telling me in 24 hours you've leveled up and experienced all FFXIV has to offer at launch?

I'm sorry, but if someone is screaming "Lack of content!"...it makes no sense in contrast with the reality that is the fact that the live game servers have been available for only a little over 24 hours...not even two days. I could go play WoW right now and in the first 24 hours of having access to the game...there is no way I could make an assessment as the games content.

It just ... doesn't make any sense to complain about something that's impossible to judge based on the time frame here. It's irrational.
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Maybe from people who want content? They're not gonna write content in the next few weeks, you know. You're not getting more than 5 areas for a long time.


Look, I'm sorry...let's say for this example...yesterday was release and the 22nd marks the release of the game. It's the 23rd. Are you telling me in 24 hours you've leveled up and experienced all FFXIV has to offer at launch?

I'm sorry, but if someone is screaming "Lack of content!"...it makes no sense in contrast with the reality that is the fact that the live game servers have been available for only a little over 24 hours...not even two days. I could go play WoW right now and in the first 24 hours of having access to the game...there is no way I could make an assessment as the games content.

It just ... doesn't make any sense to complain about something that's impossible to judge based on the time frame here. It's irrational.


All the big things they used to complain about have been dealt with - so they need a new boogie man. They'll just keep making up new irrational and unfounded reasons to hate the game until they find another pre-release game to troll on.

Honestly it baffles me why they don't just go away instead of trying to make everyone else as miserable as they are.
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#30 Sep 23 2010 at 11:29 AM Rating: Default
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They didn't really add anything. The hardware mouse works. The game is smoother, don't know if that's because of anything more than less people playing. They didn't add anything that I can see as of yet. Some areas are still blocked off.

So, yeah, they can still use it's only BETA. Because that's what this still feels like.


They didn't add anything? How can you even begin to say that when the game has only been out for CE for two days? Open Beta was almost 3 weeks long so I'm guessing you probably aren't as far now as you were in that. Unless you just logged in and started running around to see what changed.


Gee, I'm sorry, I thought it would be obvious to understand. In the starter areas they didn't add anything. To the combat they added nothing, to the crafting they added nothing, there isn't any new game play to what we have seen in the betas.

If you played closed beta 3 or open beta everything starts out the exact same. They didn't add any new features, we are still playing what was shown in beta. As we level higher then of course we will see more and hopefully newer content. **** the game is almost the same size. 8 GBs during beta 9 GBS right now. And i'm willing to bet that was mostly voice and a few cutscenes. They haven't added anything we haven't already seen.

Edited, Sep 23rd 2010 1:31pm by OldKnees
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It's not release. It's as simple as it being a pre-release. Only some can participate. I can't go out today and just buy the game and play it tonight. Hence PRE-RELEASE.

Now does that mean when the 30th comes around there will be changes. Maybe... no one really knows that except SE. It's likely there will be server balancing patches but features being implemented is very iffy.

But hey there have been improvements. To me it just shows they're on track to keep making th experience better.

Edited, Sep 23rd 2010 1:33pm by sparkytenks
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Honestly it baffles me why they don't just go away instead of trying to make everyone else as miserable as they are.


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So, since "It's just beta!!!!!" can't be used as a rally cry/shield against critique, what can you say now?


Hmmm... Let's see... It's just a beta isn't appropriate, nor is saying that it's just release... Oh, I know... How about...

This games just not for you?

Off you go then. I hope you find a game that satisfies whatever you are looking for, but I'm feeling pretty content with how FFXIV looks so far. I think it will continue to improve as the community settles in and as SE phases in more content and gets the game situated. Sure, there are a few minor issues that will likely be addressed, I see no problem with that.

Some people are better suited to other games, and some will find this one to be exactly what they are looking for. If it's not for you, just move along to something else. You have to remember that just because you don't like something doesn't automatically mean it's broken and needs to be fixed.
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Gee, I'm sorry, I thought it would be obvious to understand. In the starter areas they didn't add anything.


Well gee... sure sucks that they worked on fixing things that matter instead of adding new shrubs to the starter areas.

Edited, Sep 23rd 2010 10:33am by Olorinus
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Having only played a tiny bit of alpha and beta, this launch has gone smoothly for me thus far and I started up on Selbina which was very crowded. No crashes or excessive lag, though the "already engaged" issue did happen to me a few times. I'm enjoying the game world.

Needing to register the special items first was surely done for a good reason, but it's awkward to not have any way to get them after the fact.

- NPCs seem to slowly load in a queue with other players, I don't remember FFXI ever doing this in crowded areas. You could select a NPC quickly upon running into a packed spot and players would then continue to load in around you.
- Still refusing to let players alt tab out of the game is pretty unforgivable and baffles me.
- Coy quest descriptions are already making me smirk. That cooking quest directing you to a NPC who isn't labeled anywhere and forces running around the entire zone, hahah.

So thus far I haven't seen any loot lag, naked character select screens or posts from the devs about queues.

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Since everyone one else is feeding him...

So, played last night, was able to complete leve quests in a couple of cities, get some ranks on PUG and ARC. Did some grouping with friends. UI Lag was improved, hardware mouse enabled, the game ran smooth as silk outside of my starting city, and they have reduced the leve timers by 25%. I was actually able to play the game for most of the time I wanted, which is a huge plus on launch day.

Things to improve:
*Add a **** recipe book already; you don't allow alt-tabbing in Fullscreen mode, so just add it to the game already.

*Reduce the leve timers to 24 hours.

*Ask people if they want to link leves. If they say no, allow them to do them separately.

That's about all I can ask for at this point of launch.
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hexaemeron wrote:
So, since "It's just beta!!!!!" can't be used as a rally cry/shield against critique, what can you say now?

Sorry if this seems like a troll, but I'm genuinely curious if people will continue that sort of mentality of if some people are waking up?


What can I say now? I can say that the game has seen a MASSIVE improvement. The UI is far more responsive, the crafting system has become fun and exciting, many of the annoyances from beta (skills not saving, selling items taking forever, opening a bazaar taking forever, downloading patches taking forever) have been addressed and vastly improved. So basically what I can say is, go troll somewhere else and if you don't like the game, don't play. Someone really needs to finish sub-defaulting this thread so that it dissappears and stops annoying those of us who realize the amount of progress that has been made.

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What? I'm having a blast. The changes to the npc markets were great, making crafting even more important while also putting a price cap on sellable items and weapons.

The issues are:

Lag: expected and better than most starting mmos

that's it. There's a big targeting drama where people cant engage a mob cuz its already engaged, which is been attributed to lag sooo.. what are your issues? I'm all for having opinions but maybe just dont play it then? I dont know why people who so obviously dont like the game torture themselves by playing it and then complaining about it.

I love the game, couldn't be happier. Issues, yes there are. Will they be fixed in time? Of course.
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And you're right, this is pre-release. You're paying to beta test a console game. The real release is 2011.


I really don't see the conclusion your trying to draw here... I get to keep my character and my levels and money right? and I get to enjoy the great world, while slightly small, with friends and can find hardly a bug or issue? Wow this is the most unproductive beta to date..
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shouldnt OB be for testing server stability?
you know...where you usually let anyone play?

i think starter zones always gonna be crowded, since you need to go there everytime you start a new class.
so everyone will be going back there now and then.
gonna be terrible i assume.
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OldKnees wrote:
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Gee, I'm sorry, I thought it would be obvious to understand. In the starter areas they didn't add anything.


Well gee... sure sucks that they worked on fixing things that matter instead of adding new shrubs to the starter areas.

Edited, Sep 23rd 2010 10:33am by Olorinus


Adventuring wise no. Guildleves are great, but once you've done those for your time period you have to grind if you want to continue adventuring.

New content would be more to the story line, more to do adventuring, better organization of loot and recipes, easier and convenient way to sell your products, companies, etc.

I hope more stuff comes along, but it hasn't gotten here yet. So, again, they haven't added anything since the betas.


How many faction leves have you done?
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Have done 5 including the tutorial and was planning on doing a couple locals tonite...
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Have done 5 including the tutorial and was planning on doing a couple locals tonite...


I think you misunderstand...
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Edited, Sep 23rd 2010 1:58pm by Mattarutaru
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Man you folks are sure belligerent.


Ok I'm going to commit a taboo and speak about something that shouldnt be spoken of...

Why did you go buy a premium account just to get ti sub-defaulted into oblivion? There is tons of "content" that you just havent experienced yet. Manny new quests have been added, many guild specific. Did you try out the new battle wardens yet?

Do you even know what a battle warden is?

How about the new items for sale from npcs? Did you ever once even SEE a bronze Labrys in beta? no because no one could craft one.

They fixed important TECHNICAL issues while still adding "content" to the game and making adjustments. Give it another whirl and maybe you'll stumble into one of them. But saying "nothign was added" is just blind ignorance, and you're just sounding very stupid right now.

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Have done 5 including the tutorial and was planning on doing a couple locals tonite...


I think you misunderstand...


Faction is the key word. Not guildleves. It's a completely different thing with unique goals.

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Have done 5 including the tutorial and was planning on doing a couple locals tonite...


I think you misunderstand...


No, no I understood. But he is being obtuse and so am I.
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I edited in more info see above.
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OldKnees wrote:
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Gee, I'm sorry, I thought it would be obvious to understand. In the starter areas they didn't add anything.


Well gee... sure sucks that they worked on fixing things that matter instead of adding new shrubs to the starter areas.

Edited, Sep 23rd 2010 10:33am by Olorinus


Man you folks are sure belligerent.

I guess you're only allowed to have favorable feed back? I like the game, I'm just not going to sit here and say how wonderful it is when there are things that need to be addressed. I'm also not going to sit here and say that it has a ton of new content when it doesn't. Does it have enough? Crafting wise yes, although a recipe book for your discovered recipes would be nice. Adventuring wise no. Guildleves are great, but once you've done those for your time period you have to grind if you want to continue adventuring.

New content would be more to the story line, more to do adventuring, better organization of loot and recipes, easier and convenient way to sell your products, companies, etc.

I hope more stuff comes along, but it hasn't gotten here yet. So, again, they haven't added anything since the betas.


Your entire argument in your last post is that a software companies directive was not to add on untested content right when the game when live. What is a beta test for again? Instead they pointed their resources in the right direction and fixed a few notable flaws that were identified during open beta (which naysayers screamed about and seem to love not acknowledging now). You then go on quantifying the improvement/content of the game by the amount of physical drive space the game takes up. You seem to be trying really hard to find something wrong with this game instead of actually trying to enjoy it. Go ahead and make your arguments; but don't complain when people call you out on it. They are entitled to their opinions as well.


Edited, Sep 23rd 2010 2:02pm by Cerilius
#49 Sep 23 2010 at 12:11 PM Rating: Default
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Mattarutaru wrote:
Louiscool wrote:
[quote=OldKnees]

Man you folks are sure belligerent.


Ok I'm going to commit a taboo and speak about something that shouldnt be spoken of...

Why did you go buy a premium account just to get ti sub-defaulted into oblivion? There is tons of "content" that you just havent experienced yet. Manny new quests have been added, many guild specific. Did you try out the new battle wardens yet?

Do you even know what a battle warden is?

How about the new items for sale from npcs? Did you ever once even SEE a bronze Labrys in beta? no because no one could craft one.

They fixed important TECHNICAL issues while still adding "content" to the game and making adjustments. Give it another whirl and maybe you'll stumble into one of them. But saying "nothign was added" is just blind ignorance, and you're just sounding very stupid right now.



Fixing important technical issues is not the same as adding content. Yes, I'm sure as **** glad the game runs smoother, I'm happy as **** the hardware mouse is working too.

Nope, I don't know what a battle warden is but I look forward to finding out. So that is one thing they have added. What else? Educate me, since I am sounding stupid...

I guess I am looking for additional things in the adventuring world, in the story line. In the betas everything was very limited and linear. Understandable, but now I want more and I haven't seen it yet.

As for paying for the premium account. I use ZAM for info, it has a lot of it, and I pay them for supplying it I could care less about a rating.


Edited, Sep 23rd 2010 2:12pm by OldKnees
#50 Sep 23 2010 at 12:21 PM Rating: Default
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Go ahead and make your arguments; but don't complain when people call you out on it. They are entitled to their opinions as well.


I hear you. And I do like the game.

And you're right we are entitled to our opinions. Just seems that if some one has a challenging or negative opinion about it it gets shouted down.
#51 Sep 23 2010 at 12:23 PM Rating: Good
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I am also getting a little worried of all the zones that just reply with "Cannot proceed any further...."

You have to be a certain level to pass beyond certain points. I found that out during beta.
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