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#1 Sep 23 2010 at 11:05 AM Rating: Decent
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Building this for the wife, how do you guys think it will run?

Thanks for comments.


Antec Nine Hundred + EA650 Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 650W Power Supply

ASUS Sabertooth X58 LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

Radeon HD 5850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card w/ Eyefinity

Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor

Kingston 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory

Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
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#2 Sep 23 2010 at 11:11 AM Rating: Default
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it sucks...

what do you want us to say?
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#3 Sep 23 2010 at 11:13 AM Rating: Decent
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Also, your case sucks.
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#4 Sep 23 2010 at 11:13 AM Rating: Good
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Everything seems nice except the GPU seems a bit average. Average at least when compared to the rest of the components you've chosen.
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lol pretty much the system ive just built apart from mines better :)

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#6 Sep 23 2010 at 11:13 AM Rating: Decent
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Honestly I think you should have a larger PSU. I know people will disagree with me but I always think you should have room for expansion. That will work initially, but if you ever wanted to do Crossfire you would need to upgrade. Just my opinion though.

Also can you provide a link to the exact Kingston RAM you are using, RAM is often overlooked. I would personally use at least 1600 RAM, and make sure it has some kind of heatspreader on it. For timings(the numbers like 7-8-7-24 etc) the lower the number the better, the last number is the most important. Also note that as you go up in speed(1333 to 1600 to 2000) the timings will go down so you just want to try to get the best timings you can for that speed.
#7 Sep 23 2010 at 11:16 AM Rating: Good
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BRizzl3 wrote:
Honestly I think you should have a larger PSU. I know people will disagree with me but I always think you should have room for expansion. That will work initially, but if you ever wanted to do Crossfire you would need to upgrade. Just my opinion though.


I agree actually. Most of the time I would say 650W is enough, but when you spend as much as you have on components and you're seeking high performance then you strike me as someone who isn't going to use this same PC for 2-3 years without ever adding anything to it. You likely will want to upgrade or add more GPUs in the future, with that power supply you can't.
#8 Sep 23 2010 at 11:16 AM Rating: Decent
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When I look at your other pieces of hardware I fully suggest a better graphics card. If its for this game mainly, go with Nvidia and get a 470 or higher. I would get a stronger PSU either way. PSU's are very very important.

** Also get 1600 RAM.

Get a cheaper I7 if you have to. Everything else will bottleneck that 950.

That Antec 900 is a very very good case for cooling via air only. If its the one thats black with blue led fans.

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#9 Sep 23 2010 at 11:18 AM Rating: Good
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As the above poster stated, RAM is often very important. Check the timings etc. Better PSU would be an idea.

And... the case is hideous.

Aside from that you'll be golden.
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#10 Sep 23 2010 at 11:20 AM Rating: Good
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I agree with you guys on the PSU, the Ram is only 1333 but I wasnt trying to build the best possible RIG right now. I will upgrade those things in the future. This is the first time i tried to build a RIG.

Anyway how do you guys think it will run the game?
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#11 Sep 23 2010 at 11:21 AM Rating: Good
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It will but with the same amount of money you are spending you can get a cheaper CPU, and better everything else.
#12 Sep 23 2010 at 11:31 AM Rating: Good
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I'll say it too. I am guessing your case and PSU is a combo deal. You need a bigger and better PSU. I am only saying this because 650W is kinda below average right now. Antec is a good company, but if you ever decide to do anything more with it (Crossfire/SLi) then you will need (and should already have) a bigger PSU.

Your HDD is 6GBs/sec but it is also a rotational drive.. meaning there is no way it's going to go 6GBs/sec. You'll need a Soild State drive in order to reach those speeds and as of right now those kind of HDDs are expensive.

I won't say anything about your video card because I haven't researched ATI cards enough to warrant an opinion, but from what I remember... it isn't too bad. http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

Your motherboard and CPU are good. The mobo has enough "new" stuff on it to last for awhile.

Your RAM is fine. I am no expert, but from what I have read it doesn't matter if you get 1066, 1333, 1660, or whatever speed because you might have to actually overclock your CPU in order to take advantage of anything above 1333, or even to get anything over 1333 to properly be recognized. I am sure Kaolian would correct me if I said that wrong. READ my post below for Kaolian's take on RAM.

There isn't much to say about the DVD drive because most drives nowadays do the same speeds. Plextor use to get really high marks, but from what I see now they are average. The one you put is the one I am actually buying for my new PC.

I will PM you my build, but I will not post it here because I don't want everyone to run out and buy the stuff up before I am able to purchase it. =P


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#13 Sep 23 2010 at 11:33 AM Rating: Default
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lol @ people saying 650W is not enough. it's OVERKILL. do a load calculation. i'm running a similar set-up on 550W and it's def. overkill.

don't believe the hype.
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lol @ people saying 650W is not enough. it's OVERKILL. do a load calculation. i'm running a similar set-up on 550W and it's def. overkill.

don't believe the hype.



Its not future proof(if wanted), and most Case/Psu deals give you a crap Psu.
#15 Sep 23 2010 at 11:37 AM Rating: Good
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If you have a Micro Center nearby, I'd recommend buying the 930 processor from them. It is $100 cheaper than the 950 you have selected and is going to perform very nearly as well. That would allow you to upgrade to the 5870 and keep the budget the same.

G.Skill is a very good brand for fast RAM, you may be able to get faster clock speeds for the same price as Kingston.

If you think you will want to upgrade video performance in the future, go with an 850-1000W power supply. Adding a second 5870 will keep you playing for several years, but it is going to take a bit more power to run two of them.
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#16 Sep 23 2010 at 11:48 AM Rating: Good
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Here is Kao's (Alla's tech/hardware/admin genius) reply to me asking him about RAM.

Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
Regarding ram, Core i7 CPU's are different than all previous Intel CPU's, because the memory controller is actually onboard the CPU, and there effectivly is no clock limiter on ram speed that you can utilize as there was with Core 2 and all prior variants. Basically the faster the ram, the more speed you get out of your system, overclocked or no. With Core 2, you would have had to overclock to get an effective boost, and even then you would have been limited to the motherboard chipset speed to a certain extent. You also have a third ram channel in that board, so you can go to 12 GB. You will want to make sure that all three ram channels are used when you build your machine, so fill in ram channel a0, b0, and c0, then A1. So you will have 1 bank with both slots filled, and the other two banks with only one stick for now until you buy more ram later.

As far as ram brand goes, the chips for the most part on the ram sticks all come from a handful of factories in japan and china. Manufacturer matters in terms of warranty and manufacturing process, but it isn't as critical as it is for some other components. I've had extremely bad luck with OCZ ram, so they are on my "no buy" list, but other than that, I've had about the same luck with most of the other companies out there. We bought 200 OCZ DDR2 sticks at work for various builds, and we have had to RMA over 120 of them, sometimes multiple times. It was all one model of stick, and they did discontinue it, but the damage was done as far as I was concerned, even with their lifetime warranty. Corsair seems to put a bit more effort into their sticks and has an excellent RMA process. G-skill is decent as well, maybe a little longer turn around on replacement sticks though.


Hope that helped.
#17 Sep 23 2010 at 11:55 AM Rating: Decent
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G.Skill is a very good brand for fast RAM, you may be able to get faster clock speeds for the same price as Kingston.


G. Skill is good, and I have some DDR2 in my PC now that is G. Skill. However they aren't always the best. For my upgrade(making my PC into an intel and going to DDR3) I'm going to be using Mushkin, here is why:

RAM I'm getting for upgrade:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226030

G. Skill closest equivalents:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231335
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231352

I like the looks of the Mushkin better in this scenario, and the price.
#18 Sep 23 2010 at 11:58 AM Rating: Good
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Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
Regarding ram, Core i7 CPU's are different than all previous Intel CPU's, because the memory controller is actually onboard the CPU, and there effectivly is no clock limiter on ram speed that you can utilize as there was with Core 2 and all prior variants. Basically the faster the ram, the more speed you get out of your system, overclocked or no. With Core 2, you would have had to overclock to get an effective boost, and even then you would have been limited to the motherboard chipset speed to a certain extent. You also have a third ram channel in that board, so you can go to 12 GB. You will want to make sure that all three ram channels are used when you build your machine, so fill in ram channel a0, b0, and c0, then A1. So you will have 1 bank with both slots filled, and the other two banks with only one stick for now until you buy more ram later.

As far as ram brand goes, the chips for the most part on the ram sticks all come from a handful of factories in japan and china. Manufacturer matters in terms of warranty and manufacturing process, but it isn't as critical as it is for some other components. I've had extremely bad luck with OCZ ram, so they are on my "no buy" list, but other than that, I've had about the same luck with most of the other companies out there. We bought 200 OCZ DDR2 sticks at work for various builds, and we have had to RMA over 120 of them, sometimes multiple times. It was all one model of stick, and they did discontinue it, but the damage was done as far as I was concerned, even with their lifetime warranty. Corsair seems to put a bit more effort into their sticks and has an excellent RMA process. G-skill is decent as well, maybe a little longer turn around on replacement sticks though.


What he's referring to is "Triple Channel" RAM, similar to DDR2's Dual Channel. If you're familiar with how a RAID setup works with Hard Drives, it's more or less the same but for RAM. When it goes to read/write from the RAM, it takes one fragment from one channel, another from the 2nd, and another from the 3rd. It allows you to process information much faster than if you had a single channel that everything had to go through at the same time.
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What he's referring to is "Triple Channel" RAM, similar to DDR2's Dual Channel. If you're familiar with how a RAID setup works with Hard Drives, it's more or less the same but for RAM. When it goes to read/write from the RAM, it takes one fragment from one channel, another from the 2nd, and another from the 3rd. It allows you to process information much faster than if you had a single channel that everything had to go through at the same time.


Don't know whether it's true or not but I have been told that DDR2 works best in dual channel configurations, and DDR3 works best in triple channel. I would think this is true because many DDR3 motherboards have 6 RAM slots rather than the 4 that was typical for DDR2.
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