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#1 Sep 23 2010 at 6:30 PM Rating: Decent
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Hello, I know there has been alot of people struggling and alot of people doing there best to help others with ffxiv. So,Thank you anyone with help/suggestions in advance.

MY PROBLEM
Radeon HD5670 (1gB) not the best but mother boards F***n lame.
First, In congested spots I get seriously like 7fps from fraps, and max in game like 20. I"m running the game at 1280x760 I know that this is horrible and doesn't help . however I dont know how else to get the game into full screen with out loosing some chat or side menu. I'm also using a VGA cable to my 1080i 32' LCD Idk if that does anything wrong?

The lag for me is unreal, I was wondering how much better RAM speed/memory would help for the money. Or if its graphics related, I was thinking of the idea of upgrading my computer to Windows 7 so that I could use directx 11. I would figure that would help alot.But then what would would i be able to re-download my game? Otherwords is it my proccessor that is bad i believe I have duel 2.8GHz going so, Idont know. I'm kinda limited on cash. Any suggestions feel free to help me out. Thanks again.

MY system:
Time of this report: 9/23/2010, 17:06:01
Machine name: WINDOWSXPMCE
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.100427-1636)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Dell Inc.
System Model: Dimension 5100
BIOS: Phoenix ROM BIOS PLUS Version 1.10 A03
Processor: Intel® Pentium® 4 CPU 2.80GHz (2 CPUs)
Memory: 3326MB RAM
Page File: 759MB used, 4040MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 10.0 (4.10.0000.5515)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.5512 32bit Unicode
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Display Devices
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Card name: ATI Radeon HD 5600 Series
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: ATI Radeon Graphics Processor (0x68D8)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68D8&SUBSYS_56701545&REV_00
Display Memory: 1024.0 MB
Current Mode: 1280 x 768 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: ati2dvag.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.7119 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
#2 Sep 23 2010 at 6:49 PM Rating: Decent
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It's your CPU.. Your pentium 4 is ANCIENT.. The newer chips are twice as fast even when running at 1/2 the Ghz.. Throw in a bunch more cores and most people playing the game are running CPUs that are easily 6x faster that what you've got.. lol..

Nothing other than some SERIOUS CPU upgrades is going to help you.. Looks like you need a new mobo to really fix this problem, IMO as the fastest chips that mobo will run likely still slower than what most people are running.

More RAM isn't going to do squat when you're so horribly CPU bottlenecked.

Pentium 4 is single-core..


Edited, Sep 23rd 2010 8:52pm by Sidicas
#3 Sep 23 2010 at 6:54 PM Rating: Decent
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taggerz wrote:

MY system:
Time of this report: 9/23/2010, 17:06:01



This was the key piece of information.
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#4 Sep 23 2010 at 7:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Thanks sidicus I didn't know much about the processors stuff ill get into figuring something out.
#5 Sep 23 2010 at 7:10 PM Rating: Decent
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I agree you're gonna need a new CPU and Mobo. Your cpu was like wow release new. And clearly with all that you'll want faster RAM etc since you're spending that money. You can build a pretty good rig for under 1 grand. I probably unless you just really don't know anything about computers wouldn't suggest a Dell ever ever again. Most manufactured pre built computers cap performance at the bios level and lock it so that they have to do less service calls. That's great for them but it leaves you with 80% of the computer you paid full retail + markups on.
#6 Sep 23 2010 at 7:19 PM Rating: Decent
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any idea's on a efficient tower that wouldn't be more around only 600-700 bux?
#7 Sep 23 2010 at 7:32 PM Rating: Decent
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If you want it to run this game AND not cost more than 700 your best bet is to build it. 700 is still gonna not give you the best performance ever mind you but it will work decent on lower settings.

Edited, Sep 23rd 2010 9:33pm by zoltanrs
#8 Sep 23 2010 at 7:40 PM Rating: Decent
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AMD Athlon II X4 635 quad-core processor
2.9GHz with Hyper Transport Technology

I'm sure its low budget but how does this processor handle ffxiv
#9 Sep 23 2010 at 8:15 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm ordering my PC from ibuypower.com tomorrow. I built a i5 2.8GHZ with a GTX 460 2Gb card, 4Gb of Ram, and 700 W PSU. All that for $871 with shipping. $806 without shipping. Also ibuypower has a 6 month payment option. No interest of fees for the first 6 months. So if you can pay $871 over 6 months, you are golden.
#10 Sep 23 2010 at 8:29 PM Rating: Good
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Sidicas wrote:
It's your CPU.. Your pentium 4 is ANCIENT.. The newer chips are twice as fast even when running at 1/2 the Ghz.. Throw in a bunch more cores and most people playing the game are running CPUs that are easily 6x faster that what you've got.. lol..

Nothing other than some SERIOUS CPU upgrades is going to help you.. Looks like you need a new mobo to really fix this problem, IMO as the fastest chips that mobo will run likely still slower than what most people are running.

More RAM isn't going to do squat when you're so horribly CPU bottlenecked.

Pentium 4 is single-core..


Edited, Sep 23rd 2010 8:52pm by Sidicas


You're half right. The problem is the CPU, but there are actually a few dual-core Pentium 4s.

I'm wondering which one, though. If it's the G6950, then you're in luck because the socket is LGA1156. Which would mean you could throw in a newer processor no problem. Chances are that it's not, though, which would mean new motherboard, and most likely new RAM too. I'm betting your current RAM is DDR2.
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#11 Sep 23 2010 at 8:35 PM Rating: Excellent
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My fiancee is running a P4 HT 3.0 GHz (which is similar to a dual core) with a 5770 and the game looks semi-reasonable on low settings at 1280x1024, but everything takes like 3-5 mins to load in congested areas.

Honestly, if you're looking for a system that will run XIV well, you're not going to buy a brand new prefab for <900 that will run it. For a budget of $600-700, you might be able to buy new RAM/PSU/GPU/CPU/MB and replace that in your current case with your current OS and HD.

Edited, Sep 23rd 2010 10:38pm by Mikhalia
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#12 Sep 23 2010 at 8:44 PM Rating: Good
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Always start with the graphics card. Unless you have a single core cpu, which you don't. Get a high end graphics card for 200 bucks and see how it plays. People site bottleneck this and that, but the truth is that if your gpu can't run it, then nothing else will either.
#13 Sep 23 2010 at 8:44 PM Rating: Good
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Mikhalia the Picky wrote:
Honestly, if you're looking for a system that will run XIV well, you're not going to buy a brand new prefab for <900 that will run it. For a budget of $600-700, you might be able to buy new RAM/PSU/GPU/CPU/MB and replace that in your current case with your current OS and HD.

Edited, Sep 23rd 2010 10:38pm by Mikhalia


Agree 100%, except that he's got a Dell Dimension so he may have to/want to get a new case too. >.>
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#14 Sep 23 2010 at 9:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah you can get a case for 20 bucks if you don't care how it looks tho. Regular motherboards usually won't ***** to a dell case. Also that Ibuypower site is pretty nice. I've never used it but I went through it and built one up. Nice prices.

Edited, Sep 23rd 2010 11:18pm by zoltanrs
#15 Sep 23 2010 at 9:20 PM Rating: Decent
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zoltanrs wrote:
Yeah you can get a case for 20 bucks if you don't care how it looks tho. Regular motherboards usually won't ***** to a dell case. Also that Ibuypower site is pretty nice. I've never used it but I went through it and built one up. Nice prices.

Edited, Sep 23rd 2010 11:18pm by zoltanrs


I actually am buying one from there. The price of the computer on ibuypower is the same if I did it myself, but I don't have to put the ibuypower one together. Tomorrow I order my new rig.
#16 Sep 23 2010 at 9:35 PM Rating: Decent
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Lemme know how it turns out. It looks like a nice deal if you don't wanna build it.
#17 Sep 23 2010 at 9:46 PM Rating: Decent
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my brother got one a couple years ago. Came put together perfectly and on time, and they let you pay it off month by month for 6 month interest free.
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