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#1 Sep 24 2010 at 12:24 PM Rating: Good
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hmm i know this game is not optimized and stuff but i dont see why my fps sucks sooo bad
intel core 2 quad Q9400 2.7 ghz
4gb DDR2 800mhz ram
Pny Geforce 465 Gtx OC'd at 757/1765 (core/memory)
windows vista 64 bit
1280x720 res
textures highest (changing them to low doesnt do anything)
shadows low
AO off
DoF off
no AA
playing in windowed mode

anyone have any idea why my fps is so low?
guild 13-18
avg in town 16-25
outside 30-40
sometimes but rarely if the area is very open no mobs no ppl etc ill get 50-60
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#2 Sep 24 2010 at 12:25 PM Rating: Decent
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Same thing here, it's a driver issue. There no drivers that properly work for FFXIV. There are beta drivers that work but they're a pain to install.
#3 Sep 24 2010 at 12:25 PM Rating: Good
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Well its your CPU in this case, Id bet on it.
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#4 Sep 24 2010 at 12:31 PM Rating: Default
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How do you check your fps in the game?
#5 Sep 24 2010 at 12:36 PM Rating: Decent
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http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-64bit-260.63-beta-driver.html

Use those drivers. You should see a jump in performance. Also if you can play in full screen mode, you'll usually get better performance than windowed mode.
#6 Sep 24 2010 at 12:37 PM Rating: Decent
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spiniCA wrote:
How do you check your fps in the game?
Fraps is a classic example.

Run the original benchmark software on high and on low and report your results. If you have a really good GPU and a bad CPU, the high and low scores should be very close to each other.
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#7 Sep 24 2010 at 1:34 PM Rating: Decent
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2800 on high 3000 on low and im using the 260.63 beta drivers i didnt perform a clean install of the drivers tho i installed over the old ones

Edited, Sep 24th 2010 3:35pm by shady113
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#8 Sep 24 2010 at 1:36 PM Rating: Good
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shady113 wrote:
2800 on high 3000 on low and im using the 260.63 beta drivers i didnt perform a clean install of the drivers tho i installed over the old ones

Edited, Sep 24th 2010 3:35pm by shady113

Its your cpu then they are bottling up your gpu
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thehellfire wrote:
shady113 wrote:
2800 on high 3000 on low and im using the 260.63 beta drivers i didnt perform a clean install of the drivers tho i installed over the old ones

Edited, Sep 24th 2010 3:35pm by shady113

Its your cpu then they are bottling up your gpu


You aren't bottlenecking. I have the 9300 and it ran open beta fine. A 2800 on high is a good score. Run the game fullscreen and your fps will go up. When you are in the game, go into configuration. Here is a reference.

http://eldritcheponym.rpgdynasty.com/ffxiv-guides-f50/ffxiv-in-game-configuration-t2100.htm

Turn off extended drawing. Turn off physics if it helps.

Your GPU OC settings can actually bring your fps down in some cases. Try running it at stock.
#10 Sep 24 2010 at 1:48 PM Rating: Decent
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i score 15.4k on 3d mark 33k cpu 12.7k gpu, ive tried overclocking my cpu hasnt gone over well if anyone knows a safe overclocked to volt ratio for my cpu great but atm im scared to mess with the voltage which is what i think is causing my overclock problems hmm and how can the gpu OC decrease fps i thought it would increase it?

Edited, Sep 24th 2010 3:51pm by shady113
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#11 Sep 24 2010 at 3:28 PM Rating: Decent
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shady113 wrote:
i score 15.4k on 3d mark 33k cpu 12.7k gpu, ive tried overclocking my cpu hasnt gone over well if anyone knows a safe overclocked to volt ratio for my cpu great but atm im scared to mess with the voltage which is what i think is causing my overclock problems hmm and how can the gpu OC decrease fps i thought it would increase it?
Edited, Sep 24th 2010 3:51pm by shady113


^^This would be why your overclock isnt going well. Don't just take voltages someone gives you - especially on older c2d and c2q. Each CPU and Mobo is different. You just increase your FSB a little bit at a time, then your cpu voltage a bit at a time. once its to a roughly decent OC, just leave it alone.

You should be able to OC that processor to 3.2ghz without much problem.

I have a q9540 @ 3.2ghz in one of my machines, and just left it there because that is fast enough. It's at like 1.21 voltage for the cpu or so. 39*C idle, 55*C load. Its in a htpc case, so you might be able to have a bit lower temps.
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kahilm wrote:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-64bit-260.63-beta-driver.html

Use those drivers. You should see a jump in performance. Also if you can play in full screen mode, you'll usually get better performance than windowed mode.


I've never used beta drivers - Should I be cautious? Anything that can go wrong with using beta drivers?
#13 Sep 24 2010 at 3:46 PM Rating: Good
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Fullscreen runs better than windowed; see if running in full scree improves your performance any.
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#14 Sep 24 2010 at 4:01 PM Rating: Good
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I made a collective performance guide.

http://ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?game=268&mid=128536051236599131&page=1

Hope it helps.
#15 Sep 24 2010 at 4:05 PM Rating: Decent
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atm im at 1.29 stock voltage, put it up to 2.9 ghz my pc froze. tried 2.8 and after my pc was off for a while it wouldnt boot so i had to discharge it to reset the bios for it too boot, havent touched the voltage period ive left it on auto
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#16 Sep 24 2010 at 4:12 PM Rating: Decent
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Never mind, need to stop fast-reading :P

Edited, Sep 24th 2010 5:13pm by LyleVertigo
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shady113 wrote:
atm im at 1.29 stock voltage, put it up to 2.9 ghz my pc froze. tried 2.8 and after my pc was off for a while it wouldnt boot so i had to discharge it to reset the bios for it too boot, havent touched the voltage period ive left it on auto


if your cpu does not have an unlocked multiplier which are on select intel chips, you are probably upping your bus clock I take it to OC?

the catch with that is that it ups your memory speed as well making it unstable, for an overclock there are a few things you want to do at the start, set all settings in bios to default, then go from there, you might have to loosen your ram timings as well.

if you want good advice, go to overclockers.com, they have a good intel guide to overclocking there, I'm an AMD guy so I can't give you in depth advice on the intel chips. the people there are also very helpful and will go the extra distance to make sure you get the best out of your cpu.


Edited, Sep 24th 2010 7:01pm by Lafaiel
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#18 Sep 24 2010 at 4:58 PM Rating: Decent
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Do not leave your CPU voltage on auto, because as you up your FSB, it AUTOmatically adjusts your voltage. It will usually over-volt as well.

I would recommend reading some guides online. its very easy, just google your motherboard with the word overclock behind it.
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#19 Sep 24 2010 at 5:00 PM Rating: Decent
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ah found out why my motherboard witch is asus P5N-D 750i doesnt OC well at all sigh
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#20 Sep 24 2010 at 5:03 PM Rating: Decent
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shady113 wrote:
ah found out why my motherboard witch is asus P5N-D 750i doesnt OC well at all sigh


I doubt its that, you should be able to get a little out of it at least, you just need more knowledge.

knowledge is power.... somebody post that rainbow lol.
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