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#1 Sep 25 2010 at 3:21 PM Rating: Sub-Default
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Ok, this is pretty much a rage thread.. so keep the hate to urself >.> if ur not gonna give DECENT feedback, dont reply at all, I have no time to deal with haters.

1. Weaponry and Armors
-Sure there are guildleves and some shops that sell low rank weapons and armors but why arent they making weapons and armors more accessible to the players?
I just dont understand why you have to rank up several crafting classes and gather 1000000000000 items to make a single piece of equipment. then lather rinse and repeat for the next item. Wonderful ain't it? Would it hurt them to make NPCs that sells armor sets and weapon sets that more ppl can get access to? They could make it weaker than the ones players craft since they INSIST on making u craft.

2.Skill point EXP
-I dont understand why this has to be random. Sometimes u get high SP, sometimes low and sometimes u get nothing at all. Why cant it be like the Physical EXP that is constant/static every time u kill an enemy. I dont know if we have to do a certain attack/weapon skill pattern to get the most SP out of a mob. I SERIOUSLY CANT STRESS ENOUGH how broken SP gain is ryt now. As of ryt, now, im a rank 16 lancer and I'm lucky if i get 50-100+ SP. and I am grinding off of Lone Wolves and Young Galagos.

3. Party EXP (3+)
- I dont know if this is a known issue, but party exp is bugged when u have more than 3 ppl. Most of the time someone in the party will get no SP and worse even no EXP.
I know SE wants party play, but if its like this.. no thank you.

4.Crafting system
-I know i know, theres alot of rage threads out there about crafting, but seriously, what is SE thinking. In my case, I am trying to make a Harpoon (Rank 9 Lancer weapon). The funny thing is, I have to gather mats and rank up,god knows how many crafting classes to make the weapon. What's worse? I need CRAFTED materials for like rank 10-15 (fish glue). And god knows where I can get the mats for that. I just dont understand why u have to switch to so many crafting classes, gather materials for that, rank them up, and FINALLY, FINALLY, attempt to make something. (And hey, theres no guarantee u'll succeed on first try). What's EVEN WORSE? I dont understand why u have to go through ****, burn there and back to make a Rank 9 weapon. I mean, seriously? I'd love to see higher ranked weapons pls >.>

IN A NUTSHELL
- I cant see anything praiseworthy except the graphics. SE indeed spent 6 yrs, just making pretty graphics. everything else is broken to me ryt now. I already want to cancel my account and just reactivate in when things are SOLID and FIXED. Sure, SE has alot of great ideas for this game but their execution is just so BAD. so bad, i feel like im gonna puke. I feel like I have no freedom because of the FORCED crafting. I'm sure many players out there arent crafting lovers. Might as well make a crafting game Square Enix. But as of now, this game is a struggle. and a POINTLESS one at that.
#2 Sep 25 2010 at 3:28 PM Rating: Decent
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I think you missed the forum you tried to post in...
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?game=268

Edited, Sep 25th 2010 5:28pm by TirithRR
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#3 Sep 25 2010 at 4:15 PM Rating: Decent
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I stopped reading after the first sentence. Anyone that seriously uses the word "haters" is automatically too stupid to bother responding to with any kind of well thought out or worthwhile post. Not to mention the title of this thread is just plain ludicrous. SE did not spend the last five years and who knows how many millions of dollars developing a game hoping it would fail. Whatever pathetic whiny complaints you have are made completely irrevalent by your complete lack of inelligence in your presentation.
#4 Sep 25 2010 at 4:39 PM Rating: Good
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The main problem is, everyone wants something new, but the moment anyone goes out and tries to make something different, the players cower in fear and beg for the old familiar stuff back.

The only real complaint I had about FFXIV, when I was playing the beta, was the lack of established community, the lack of any real information about how to do certain things (FFXI failed at having in game tutorial system as well), and no ability to rest to regain mana.

Oh, and I wish the keyboard controls had been more FFXI-like. Camera control with the arrow keys, etc. (maybe that was taken care of with the release?)
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#5 Sep 25 2010 at 6:22 PM Rating: Good
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So you regen mana by sitting around and waiting for the mana to slowly return? That is one of the really big things that turned me off of Lineage 2. Sitting around doing nothing while waiting for mana to return != fun gameplay. I was thinking of picking up the game but if mana regen is that horrible I will just put it on the list of things that could have been.

Concerning the OP, while I understand some of your frustration and wanting to express it, the shortened words throughout your post makes it difficult to read at best. This isn't a text message, you are not getting charged per post so you don't have to shorten words so you can get the whole message across. Things like "urself", "ppl" and "u" make you look lazy at best and hard to support your position, even if it is a good one. I don't even want to get started with "ryt" and how it took several times reading over the sentence to figure out what the **** it meant.

Also might want to post in the right forum as TirithRR linked. :P
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#6 Sep 25 2010 at 6:38 PM Rating: Decent
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Ok, this is pretty much a rage thread.. so keep the hate to urself >.> if ur not gonna give DECENT feedback, dont reply at all, I have no time to deal with haters.


So I guess you better kill yourself while the killin' is good, eh?
#7 Sep 25 2010 at 7:23 PM Rating: Default
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That's too bad, because I pretty much hate you. Go put your rant somewhere where people care.
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#8 Sep 25 2010 at 8:01 PM Rating: Default
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game is definately lacking, FF11 was better at launch in my opinion. i felt like i could explore more freely. the blackshroud is definately a neat area but i feel trapped. i can only venture out not very far before reds dominate. alot of serious SE **** kissers on here i noticed. i played FF11 since release and never used this site much. definately shows who the site loyalists are, automatic smartass comments if they feel there gem has been judged wrong in someone elses eyes. yes im a FF online fan ( and really wanting for 14) but i dont jump if someone hates the game. i played FF11 my best friend played dark age of camelot.
#9 Sep 25 2010 at 10:18 PM Rating: Decent
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welch2008 wrote:
game is definately lacking, FF11 was better at launch in my opinion. i felt like i could explore more freely. the blackshroud is definately a neat area but i feel trapped. i can only venture out not very far before reds dominate. alot of serious SE **** kissers on here i noticed. i played FF11 since release and never used this site much. definately shows who the site loyalists are, automatic smartass comments if they feel there gem has been judged wrong in someone elses eyes. yes im a FF online fan ( and really wanting for 14) but i dont jump if someone hates the game. i played FF11 my best friend played dark age of camelot.


Dude you are taking about FF11's launch in JP or NA?

Cause theres like a difference in like 1 year between both.
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#10 Sep 26 2010 at 12:26 PM Rating: Excellent
I'm going to throw this out there, and I know it's pure craziness, but perhaps you're supposed to be trading with other players for ingredients rather than trying to level every craft at once?
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#11 Sep 26 2010 at 12:43 PM Rating: Default
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This was really poorly written and almost idiotic in nature. No offense, but I couldnt read the whole thing. See in my last sentence I didnt put in a ' in couldn't. Thats avoiding useless typing.

U R in LS wnt r7 craft lol no have h8ers 2marrow.

Makes you look like a friggen dumb tool, seriously.

Few things- Their crafting system is AWESOME. Im a hardcore PvPer playing this game and even I enjoy the crafting. NO its not easy.. NO you dont "pick up smithing 2 seconds ago and make a rank 50 spear". It creates a thriving market of crafters either PLAYING the craft or building the components of the craft, to sell.

Its such a great system, needs updates but its very awesome. Problem is anybody who is a tool wont understand it will take a solid week for these components to be commonly available.

As is I almost cried about it too.. Then I decided to type /sh Anyone can make X item? Someone would whisper and we would work together to get it made.

Derp derp, being social in an MMO is half the fun, durp durp.
#12 Sep 26 2010 at 12:51 PM Rating: Decent
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Just let this die.
#13 Sep 26 2010 at 12:53 PM Rating: Good
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welch2008 wrote:
game is definately lacking, FF11 was better at launch in my opinion. i felt like i could explore more freely. the blackshroud is definately a neat area but i feel trapped. i can only venture out not very far before reds dominate. alot of serious SE **** kissers on here i noticed. i played FF11 since release and never used this site much. definately shows who the site loyalists are, automatic smartass comments if they feel there gem has been judged wrong in someone elses eyes. yes im a FF online fan ( and really wanting for 14) but i dont jump if someone hates the game. i played FF11 my best friend played dark age of camelot.


FFXI was out for a year in japan before it came to North America. A year, that's release not even beta. There was no AUction house for the first two weeks. Level cap was fifty and exp bugs+exploits were rampant. There were only 10 missions per nation (the original 1-5) and various other problems existed. North American launch for FFXI WAS NOT the actual launch. You had the benefit of a years worth of tweaks and fixes as well as an expansion pack.

Why is this so hard for people?
#14 Sep 26 2010 at 12:54 PM Rating: Default
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#15 Sep 26 2010 at 1:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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kenric02 wrote:
Ok, this is pretty much a rage thread.. so keep the hate to urself >.> if ur not gonna give DECENT feedback, dont reply at all, I have no time to deal with haters.


Translation: I'm just going to ***** a lot, and I don't want to hear anything positive about the game at all.
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#16 Sep 26 2010 at 1:39 PM Rating: Good
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Turin wrote:
Anyone that seriously uses the word "haters" is automatically too stupid to bother responding to with any kind of well thought out or worthwhile post.


This

Mikhalia the Picky wrote:
kenric02 wrote:
Ok, this is pretty much a rage thread.. so keep the hate to urself >.> if ur not gonna give DECENT feedback, dont reply at all, I have no time to deal with haters.


Translation: I'm just going to ***** a lot, and I don't want to hear anything positive about the game at all.


and this.
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